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Brown and SWP are two I'd fully expect KK to go for. Dunne would be a pleasing addition, and I wouldn't be overly surprised with a bid for Crouch. Hopefully he'll have some aces up his sleeve.

 

Swap Crouch for Bent and add a creative midfielder and that is one good summer

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I would say Christoph Metzelder could be a viable option in the summer, given that Real Madrid look set to overhaul their playing staff come the summer. Garay from Santander is another option (but could be pricey)

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Can someone who's good with all the tactical knowledge etc explain to me why Dunne and Faye couldn't work? That's not me being arsey, would just genuinely like to hear from someone why it shouldn't...

 

I'd hardly say Faye was immobile, he's certainly got a deceptive turn of pace, and could make up for Dunne's lack of movement, or whatever. We certainly wouldn't struggle in the aerial department, either.

 

For the record, i think Dunne would be a very good signing. Brown, meh. :undecided: Don't particularly rate him. We only need one centre-back imo and Wes Brown is not a good right-back. Dunne and Faye would be good though imo.

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cannot be arsed to read all the recent threads so apologies if someone has made this point.

 

Assuming we are going for European players as well as English, is anyone concerned that the Euro's will get in the way of our transfer progress in the summer?

 

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Can someone who's good with all the tactical knowledge etc explain to me why Dunne and Faye couldn't work? That's not me being arsey, would just genuinely like to hear from someone why it shouldn't...

 

I'd hardly say Faye was immobile, he's certainly got a deceptive turn of pace, and could make up for Dunne's lack of movement, or whatever. We certainly wouldn't struggle in the aerial department, either.

 

For the record, i think Dunne would be a very good signing. Brown, meh. :undecided: Don't particularly rate him. We only need one centre-back imo and Wes Brown is not a good right-back. Dunne and Faye would be good though imo.

 

Good post. For me, it could work and work well.

 

I agree that Faye is hardly immobile.

 

He's certainly not a Hyppia or Sol Campbell in terms of 'turn of pace' imo.

 

I think they could establish a very steady partnership and give us a sound backbone for a couple of seasons to be honest.

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Can someone who's good with all the tactical knowledge etc explain to me why Dunne and Faye couldn't work? That's not me being arsey, would just genuinely like to hear from someone why it shouldn't...

 

I'd hardly say Faye was immobile, he's certainly got a deceptive turn of pace, and could make up for Dunne's lack of movement, or whatever. We certainly wouldn't struggle in the aerial department, either.

 

For the record, i think Dunne would be a very good signing. Brown, meh. :undecided: Don't particularly rate him. We only need one centre-back imo and Wes Brown is not a good right-back. Dunne and Faye would be good though imo.

 

It maybe could work, the worry is that opposition would pick up on their lack of pace and take advantage of it, we wouldn't be able to play a high line either because quick players would get in behind us with a ball over the top, watching Dunne at Man City he's always had a quick player next to him who can recover any mistakes and these do happen for any team.

 

The other problem with a Dunne/Faye partnership is neither of them are that good with the ball at their feet, Keegan has spoke for the need to be good in possession and that we need to play it out from the back so that brings up more question marks over them, I don't think two big CB's with little pace and poor footballing skills would work.

 

Not sure what the problem is with Wes Brown, better than anything we've got already so bringing him in on a free would be improving the squad without wasting money that's needed in other areas.

 

 

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Brown in a good team playing well should be a good player.

 

He does make mistakes, like a high class Bramble, but he very rarely gets punished for them and he's got a bit more about him and can recover from them both at the time and most certainly mentally.

 

£60kpw rejected though at a club he loves? Is he that desperate for 1st team football even though he's basically 1st choice now even if it is through selection.

 

I'd be quite happy to get proven EPL defenders like Brown and Dunne in while taking chances on the flair players from the continent and beyond.

 

 

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Brown in a good team playing well should be a good player.

 

He does make mistakes, like a high class Bramble, but he very rarely gets punished for them and he's got a bit more about him and can recover from them both at the time and most certainly mentally.

 

£60kpw rejected though at a club he loves? Is he that desperate for 1st team football even though he's basically 1st choice now even if it is through selection.

 

I'd be quite happy to get proven EPL defenders like Brown and Dunne in while taking chances on the flair players from the continent and beyond.

 

 

 

I haven't seem him make mistakes like Bramble for a good few years now.

 

Seems to have grown out of them and become a solid dependable player, I don't think right back is his best position and he probably knows that Ferguson will bring in a replacement right back if Neville doesn't return.

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Brown in a good team playing well should be a good player.

 

He does make mistakes, like a high class Bramble, but he very rarely gets punished for them and he's got a bit more about him and can recover from them both at the time and most certainly mentally.

 

£60kpw rejected though at a club he loves? Is he that desperate for 1st team football even though he's basically 1st choice now even if it is through selection.

 

I'd be quite happy to get proven EPL defenders like Brown and Dunne in while taking chances on the flair players from the continent and beyond.

 

 

 

I haven't seem him make mistakes like Bramble for a good few years now.

 

Seems to have grown out of them and become a solid dependable player, I don't think right back is his best position and he probably knows that Ferguson will bring in a replacement right back if Neville doesn't return.

 

Still makes them but you are right, nowhere near as frequent of late and i can bet my house on he'd make more of them when he comes here, its almost a certain, but he does recover and he does get over it.

 

Easily good enough for us, and a KK type player imo.

 

 

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I actually have been very surprised at how dependable he has been for Man U at right back this season, as it isn't at all his natural position.

 

I think a whole season of playing at right back will make him an even more composed and confident centre back. I think he is well worth it next season on a free. I believe he would be excellent value for mney, especially paired with a more physical and dominant partner like Dunne or Faye.

 

I really think we ought to go for Brown. He would also have added value as an emergency right back in emergency situations.

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Can someone who's good with all the tactical knowledge etc explain to me why Dunne and Faye couldn't work? That's not me being arsey, would just genuinely like to hear from someone why it shouldn't...

 

I'd hardly say Faye was immobile, he's certainly got a deceptive turn of pace, and could make up for Dunne's lack of movement, or whatever. We certainly wouldn't struggle in the aerial department, either.

 

For the record, i think Dunne would be a very good signing. Brown, meh. :undecided: Don't particularly rate him. We only need one centre-back imo and Wes Brown is not a good right-back. Dunne and Faye would be good though imo.

 

See, i find that the best partnerships in he world are a combination of a beefy big defender and a slender sweeper type defender.

 

Genereally speaking, this combination combines strengths of both defenders which neutralise the weakness of the other defenders.

 

To have 2 of the same type of defender results in the players taking similar positioning in order to either attack the long ball or intercept a thread pass, for me Dunne and Faye are very similar type of defenders who like to attack the ball. If you have 2 silar type of defenderd who naturaly take up similar positions you can leave yourself open to lacking in the other positions that a sweeper type defender would exploit.

 

I also happen to think that having to big defenders would leave us extremely vunerable to the small intelligent quick striker.

 

Could be completely wrong like.

 

 

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Players that i would like to see being signed over the summer:

 

Carlos Cuellar

Richard Dunne

Johnny Heitinga

Van Bommal

David Bentley

Michael Carrick

Fabricio Coloccini

Rafael Marquez

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I hope we dont pay 10 m£ for Lennon. That would be retarded money to pay.

 

I'm told that Newcastle have been showing an interest, but SGE appears to showing more.  I think if he does move he'll cost more than £10m.  Whether he is worth it is a totally different question.

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Players that i would like to see being signed over the summer:

 

Carlos Cuellar

Richard Dunne

Johnny Heitinga

Van Bommal

David Bentley

Michael Carrick

Fabricio Coloccini

Rafael Marquez

 

 

five new defenders?

with one who is already signed for Atletico...

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