Obafemi Martins

[TRon]

So what's the current update then, is he fit to play on  Saturday or not?

 

 

[Guest neesy111]

he's been getting far too many groin injury's for my liking, and as someone said, it took him two months to recover from the same operation that it took shearer and bellamy 10 days to recover from

 

something is not right, and we don't need player's like him bottling the future of this club

 

tbf, he's not as good as ppl think and won't ever improve as a player, because he hasn't since he was 19-20 at inter

[TaylorJ_01]

To be fair if he scored another wondergoal vs Spurs I would happily marry my mother.

[Tooj]

Imagine the grief Owen would get if he had done this.

It's not like Martins hasn't got grief over this.

 

What I was alluding to mainly was the fact that his injury record has been canny bad over the last two years or so, yet Owen is the one who seems to always get a shed load of stick for his. When Oba's is probably something pretty similar.

[Greg]

Imagine the grief Owen would get if he had done this.

It's not like Martins hasn't got grief over this.

 

What I was alluding to mainly was the fact that his injury record has been canny bad over the last two years or so, yet Owen is the one who seems to always get a shed load of stick for his. When Oba's is probably something pretty similar.

 

Martins has played 98 games in the last 3 seasons, Owen has played 72 in his Newcastle career.

[Yorkie]

His injury record isn't even nearly comparable to Owen's ffs.

[Optimistic Nut]

His injury record isn't even nearly comparable to Owen's ffs.

 

The last 18 months since Owen's two serious injuries which were freak incidences, it has been.

[Frazzle]

Over the last two seasons it is.

 

Owen has played  58 (scored 23)

 

Martins has played 52 (scored 17)

 

I'm not having a go at Martins, I just think both (or neither) should be called injury prone.

[Ronaldo]

Over the last two seasons it is.

 

Owen has played  58 (scored 23)

 

Martins has played 52 (scored 17)

 

I'm not having a go at Martins, I just think both (or neither) should be called injury prone.

 

yes but the 'last 2 seasons' represents a somewhat window dressing approach to Owen's record, doesn't it mate

[Frazzle]

Over the last two seasons it is.

 

Owen has played  58 (scored 23)

 

Martins has played 52 (scored 17)

 

I'm not having a go at Martins, I just think both (or neither) should be called injury prone.

 

yes but the 'last 2 seasons' represents a somewhat window dressing approach to Owen's record, doesn't it mate

 

Yeah.

 

Proves he's a better goalscorer as well, doesn't it mate.

[Optimistic Nut]

Over the last two seasons it is.

 

Owen has played  58 (scored 23)

 

Martins has played 52 (scored 17)

 

I'm not having a go at Martins, I just think both (or neither) should be called injury prone.

 

yes but the 'last 2 seasons' represents a somewhat window dressing approach to Owen's record, doesn't it mate

 

While only mentioning the last 12 games just to suit your own arguments is perfectly acceptable.

[Ronaldo]

yes, unquestionably, and if you extend in to 9 years it proves Ameobi's a better goalscorer.

 

or if you extend it to 3, the Martins - Owen arguement looks somewhat redundant

[Frazzle]

Over the last two seasons it is.

 

Owen has played  58 (scored 23)

 

Martins has played 52 (scored 17)

 

I'm not having a go at Martins, I just think both (or neither) should be called injury prone.

 

yes but the 'last 2 seasons' represents a somewhat window dressing approach to Owen's record, doesn't it mate

 

While only mentioning the last 12 games just to suit your own arguments is perfectly acceptable.

 

Exactly.

[Frazzle]

yes, unquestionably, and if you extend in to 9 years it proves Ameobi's a better goalscorer.

 

No it doesn't. 

[Ronaldo]

Over the last two seasons it is.

 

Owen has played  58 (scored 23)

 

Martins has played 52 (scored 17)

 

I'm not having a go at Martins, I just think both (or neither) should be called injury prone.

 

yes but the 'last 2 seasons' represents a somewhat window dressing approach to Owen's record, doesn't it mate

 

While only mentioning the last 12 games just to suit your own arguments is perfectly acceptable.

 

13 games, and in that instance I was refering to FORM

 

which is somewhat important, you know when you have 6 games left to save your status in the premiership

[Optimistic Nut]

yes, unquestionably, and if you extend in to 9 years it proves Ameobi's a better goalscorer.

 

or if you extend it to 3, the Martins - Owen arguement looks somewhat redundant

 

Between 1997 and 2000, was someone like Dion Dublin better than Alan Shearer just because 1997/8 for Shearer was basically a write-off due to injury, while Dublin consistently got 15-20 a season for Villa & Coventry?

[Ronaldo]

yes, unquestionably, and if you extend in to 9 years it proves Ameobi's a better goalscorer.

 

or if you extend it to 3, the Martins - Owen arguement looks somewhat redundant

 

Between 1997 and 2000, was someone like Dion Dublin better than Alan Shearer just because 1997/8 for Shearer was basically a write-off due to injury, while Dublin consistently got 15-20 a season for Villa & Coventry?

 

my orignal post was referring to the injury records of both Owen and Martins, which are not comparable at all. Maybe you missed the point

[Kaizero]

During their Newcastle career, according to soccerbase:

 

Michael Owen: 62 apps, 32 goals.

Obafemi Martins: 85 apps, 34 goals.

Shola Ameobi: 149 apps, 50 goals.

 

 

 

Anyone else need more conviction over who's been our most dangerous forward since Shearer goal-wise?

[Optimistic Nut]

yes, unquestionably, and if you extend in to 9 years it proves Ameobi's a better goalscorer.

 

or if you extend it to 3, the Martins - Owen arguement looks somewhat redundant

 

Between 1997 and 2000, was someone like Dion Dublin better than Alan Shearer just because 1997/8 for Shearer was basically a write-off due to injury, while Dublin consistently got 15-20 a season for Villa & Coventry?

 

my orignal post was referring to the injury records of both Owen and Martins, which are not comparable at all. Maybe you missed the point

 

This season though, it is. In fact, Martins' has been worse...which is somewhat important, you know, when you have 6 games left to save your status in the Premiership.

[David Icke - Son of God]

Martins is just as prone to 'niggly' injuries as Owen is, it's hard to argue with that.

 

If you take their injury records on face value then Martins looks fit as fuck in comparison to Owen but then you lose sight of the fact EMO did suffer two freak injuries within the space of a year.

[Ronaldo]

yes, unquestionably, and if you extend in to 9 years it proves Ameobi's a better goalscorer.

 

or if you extend it to 3, the Martins - Owen arguement looks somewhat redundant

 

Between 1997 and 2000, was someone like Dion Dublin better than Alan Shearer just because 1997/8 for Shearer was basically a write-off due to injury, while Dublin consistently got 15-20 a season for Villa & Coventry?

 

my orignal post was referring to the injury records of both Owen and Martins, which are not comparable at all. Maybe you missed the point

 

This season though, it is. In fact, Martins' has been worse...which is somewhat important, you know, when you have 6 games left to save your status in the Premiership.

 

If he's fit, he starts as far as I'm concerned, it's a non-issue that some are trying to make into one.

 

With Owen, for me there is genuine worry that his presence in the starting 11 will take us down. There has been nothing in his last few games to suggest he'll help keep us up

[Segun Oluwaniyi]

Ronaldo and Optimistic Nut are reaching NE5 esque levels when it comes to Obafemi Martins and Michael Owen.

[Optimistic Nut]

Ronaldo and Optimistic Nut are reaching NE5 esque levels when it comes to Obafemi Martins and Michael Owen.

 

Shush you.

[Kaizero]

Ronaldo and Optimistic Nut are reaching NE5 esque levels when it comes to Obafemi Martins and Michael Owen.

 

Baba, honest opinion. If Shola had gone and declared himself to Nigeria, what would you have thought?

[David Icke - Son of God]

yes, unquestionably, and if you extend in to 9 years it proves Ameobi's a better goalscorer.

 

or if you extend it to 3, the Martins - Owen arguement looks somewhat redundant

 

Between 1997 and 2000, was someone like Dion Dublin better than Alan Shearer just because 1997/8 for Shearer was basically a write-off due to injury, while Dublin consistently got 15-20 a season for Villa & Coventry?

 

my orignal post was referring to the injury records of both Owen and Martins, which are not comparable at all. Maybe you missed the point

 

This season though, it is. In fact, Martins' has been worse...which is somewhat important, you know, when you have 6 games left to save your status in the Premiership.

 

If he's fit, he starts as far as I'm concerned, it's a non-issue that some are trying to make into one.

 

With Owen, for me there is genuine worry that his presence in the starting 11 will take us down. There has been nothing in his last few games to suggest he'll help keep us up

 

Last day of the season against Villa, last kick of the game and one of our strikers* is one on one with their 'keeper. They score we win the game and stay up, we draw we go down. Who would you have taking the shot?

 

*Nile Ranger not included