Guest bimpy474 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Maybe we could use the £2m earmarked for Bent to... Nah never mind. And bankrupt the club? Yeah great idea that Dave. I really shouldn't even bother here like but clearly finding an extra couple of million for Gomis isn't the issue, the issue is what we think he's worth. And if they want more than we think he's worth? What will we do then? I know, we'll either buy nobody or somebody we rate less. And people like you think this is a great idea because then you've got "value" - meanwhile plenty of other clubs have paid the going rate for the players they actually wanted. Something Ashley and our club seem to forget is, when you want another clubs player you may have to pay more than you think he's worth, seeing the seller doesn't want to sell generally and have there own valuation. By Ashley's standards we've offered a bloody fortune for Gomis considering he's available for free in 12 months time. Especially in the context of the ridiculous bid for Bent. We are a bit of an oddity, we bid high for Remy last season, De Jong too, we seem to ok with high bids when it suits, but the middling to lower bids we piss about for the sake of a million or two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 So have we met on the hot track or not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Would Remy and Gomis both be interested in joining? Presumably both would want first team football so they are in with a chance of being selected for the France team in Brazil, but it would be hard to offer them both a place in the first team I'd imagine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest taps01 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Would Remy and Gomis both be interested in joining? Presumably both would want first team football so they are in with a chance of being selected for the France team in Brazil, but it would be hard to offer them both a place in the first team I'd imagine. Footballers generally have an overinflated opinion of themselves so I'm sure both would back themselves to nail down a starting place week in week out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/newcastle-transfers-bafetimbi-gomis-move-2109465 I'd love to believe it but I still can't wrap my head around us having Cisse, Remy and Gomis to choose from. I'll believe it when it happens. Same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Would Remy and Gomis both be interested in joining? Presumably both would want first team football so they are in with a chance of being selected for the France team in Brazil, but it would be hard to offer them both a place in the first team I'd imagine. Footballers generally have an overinflated opinion of themselves so I'm sure both would back themselves to nail down a starting place week in week out. Provided Remy doesnt mind playing wide left there is no reason we cant use them all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Ben Arfa Cabaye Sissoko Gomis Cisse Remy Christ that looks awesome. I'd prefer to have Ben Arfa higher up the pitch tbh, and I think a forward three of him, Cissé and Remy would be the best we could play. Sissoko Anita Cabaye in midfield. Gomis would still get plenty of games when we've got injuries or want to change the game and go 4-4-2, so I still very much like to sign him. Also, isn't he much more suited to playing a central role? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 People who think we are going to sign him are hilarious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Maybe we could use the £2m earmarked for Bent to... Nah never mind. And bankrupt the club? Yeah great idea that Dave. I really shouldn't even bother here like but clearly finding an extra couple of million for Gomis isn't the issue, the issue is what we think he's worth. And if they want more than we think he's worth? What will we do then? I know, we'll either buy nobody or somebody we rate less. And people like you think this is a great idea because then you've got "value" - meanwhile plenty of other clubs have paid the going rate for the players they actually wanted. Something Ashley and our club seem to forget is, when you want another clubs player you may have to pay more than you think he's worth, seeing the seller doesn't want to sell generally and have there own valuation. By Ashley's standards we've offered a bloody fortune for Gomis considering he's available for free in 12 months time. Especially in the context of the ridiculous bid for Bent. We are a bit of an oddity, we bid high for Remy last season, De Jong too, we seem to ok with high bids when it suits, but the middling to lower bids we piss about for the sake of a million or two. I don't think there's much odd about it. We do actually bid the 'going rate' (whatever that means) when we have competition or we agree with the valuation. I'd be happy to wager the French reports that we we bid more than whatever Borussia Dortmund ended up paying for Aubameyang were spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 People who think they know what is going to happen are hilarious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Ben Arfa Cabaye Sissoko Gomis Cisse Remy Christ that looks awesome. I'd prefer to have Ben Arfa higher up the pitch tbh, and I think a forward three of him, Cissé and Remy would be the best we could play. Sissoko Anita Cabaye in midfield. Gomis would still get plenty of games when we've got injuries or want to change the game and go 4-4-2, so I still very much like to sign him. Also, isn't he much more suited to playing a central role? More likely to be Sissoko Cabaye Ben Arfa Cisse Remy Gomis Either way we would get butt raped every time the opposition attacks. Sexy though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Cisse deeper than Gomis? There's no chance of that whatsoever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 I actually thought his workrate and alround play was good last season when he had to play wide or having to come deeper due to our ineptitude. He is at his most lethal when given space rather than being a target man, thought gomis would be that guy to open things up for him. I think they can be interchangeable and can compliment each other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Gomis at RW Actually might happen, but by god it does not "look awesome". If we, miraculously get him and Remy, it'll two up top, hoof and fucking garbage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Why doesn't it look awesome? The three up top interchanging, plenty of creativity in the midfield. Not perfect but a million miles better than the rubbish we've seen in the last year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Not enough tacklers. We would never see Pardew using that line up. Would be exciting but leave us vulnerable at the back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Why doesn't it look awesome? The three up top interchanging, plenty of creativity in the midfield. Not perfect but a million miles better than the rubbish we've seen in the last year. Aye but I wouldn't label anything that's potentially better than our recent mess "awesome". There's no dynamic in that front three. Neither Gomis nor Cisse are able to do a job out wide. Both are central strikers who thrive off good service. I'd rather have Gouffran than Gomis out wide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayno Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Why doesn't it look awesome? The three up top interchanging, plenty of creativity in the midfield. Not perfect but a million miles better than the rubbish we've seen in the last year. Gomis would be even worse than Cisse at RW imo. The fact he was caught offside more than Cisse last season should tell you the type of plaer he is (target man, on the shoulder of the defence) rather than a player who is comfortable with the ball at his feet with a range of passing like Remy (who would be fine wide, but still not his best position) Also if your three man midfield was a flat 3 Ben Arfa would get exposed defensively pretty frequently. Good on paper though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 If you were the opposition you'd be shitting yourself if you had to go up against that front 6 man. Cabaye, Sissoko, HBA, Remy, Gomis and Cisse? Would be hilarious and brilliant to even see man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayno Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 If you were the opposition you'd be shitting yourself if you had to go up against that front 6 man. Cabaye, Sissoko, HBA, Remy, Gomis and Cisse? Would be hilarious and brilliant to even see man. Whatever man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JS Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 If you were the opposition you'd be shitting yourself if you had to go up against that front 6 man. Cabaye, Sissoko, HBA, Remy, Gomis and Cisse? Would be hilarious and brilliant to even see man. Aye if we had a decent manager to make something like that happen. We'll still play volleyball over the midfield this season man, it'll be the same as long as Pardew is here. Last season it was 'front foot football' or some other bullshit and look how that turned out? Seemingly worse than his first half season here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 If you were the opposition you'd be shitting yourself if you had to go up against that front 6 man. Cabaye, Sissoko, HBA, Remy, Gomis and Cisse? Would be hilarious and brilliant to even see man. The opposition would be rubbing their hands at the prospect of free access to our back four. 50% of the job of the midfield is to defend, and of the three in there, two can't defend at all and the other one seems more comfortable going forward. They'd also get very little help from the three in front of them. There's a good article in the Wish I Was A Geordie website about how the problem with our midfield is as much the balance as the individual players. We don't seem to have it at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 If you were the opposition you'd be shitting yourself if you had to go up against that front 6 man. Cabaye, Sissoko, HBA, Remy, Gomis and Cisse? Would be hilarious and brilliant to even see man. The opposition would be rubbing their hands at the prospect of free access to our back four. 50% of the job of the midfield is to defend, and of the three in there, two can't defend at all and the other one seems more comfortable going forward. They'd also get very little help from the three in front of them. There's a good article in the Wish I Was A Geordie website about how the problem with our midfield is as much the balance as the individual players. We don't seem to have it at the moment. I sort of agree but also think a lot of hte problem has been a very deep defence combined with a midfield that wants to be high up, giving other teams acres of space in between the lines and to run at our defenders at pace. Mbiwa ideally will allow us to run a higher defensive line so we can play a pressing game. Of course that's probably not Pardew's thoughts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 People who think we are going to sign him are hilarious. Riiiight. They're the hilarious ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 People who think we are going to sign him are hilarious. Riiiight. They're the hilarious ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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