1878 Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Would be a good deal for Everton, they could end up squeezing another player out of them or some cash. Ireland would work well at Everton, probably more so than Arteta. Eh? Arteta has been class for Everton for a number of seasons now. Big injury last season, 28, last chance to move for good money. Yeah, a big injury and then he came back and was top class again coinciding with our great run of form. It's impossible to understate how important he is to our team. Ireland is half the player and has a reputation bigger than he deserves so to say he'd work better here than Arteta is just total nonsense to be frank. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Swap Johnson for Bellamy and we got a deal 1878? Was just about to say the same. Johnson is the only stickler for me in there, Arteta is good, and I'd say worth around 15m, so Ireland worth 8m, Onouha worth 4-5m and Bellamy around the same you've got a good deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Would be a good deal for Everton, they could end up squeezing another player out of them or some cash. Ireland would work well at Everton, probably more so than Arteta. Eh? Arteta has been class for Everton for a number of seasons now. Big injury last season, 28, last chance to move for good money. Yeah, a big injury and then he came back and was top class again coinciding with our great run of form. It's impossible to understate how important he is to our team. Ireland is half the player and has a reputation bigger than he deserves so to say he'd work better here than Arteta is just total nonsense to be frank. If he's that good a player then he deserves his chance at a big club then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1878 Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Swap Johnson for Bellamy and we got a deal 1878? I'd still be very apprehensive. I'd rather Arteta just stayed because the damage him leaving would do to our side is huge. I don't think we could replace him adequately without spending over £20m and players in that bracket probably wouldn't want to come to Everton anyway. Steven Ireland certainly can't replace him. On paper an offer of Ireland/Onouha/Bellamy would improve the squad as a whole but I think in practice we'd be weakened because the midfield would have a gaping hole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1878 Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Would be a good deal for Everton, they could end up squeezing another player out of them or some cash. Ireland would work well at Everton, probably more so than Arteta. Eh? Arteta has been class for Everton for a number of seasons now. Big injury last season, 28, last chance to move for good money. Yeah, a big injury and then he came back and was top class again coinciding with our great run of form. It's impossible to understate how important he is to our team. Ireland is half the player and has a reputation bigger than he deserves so to say he'd work better here than Arteta is just total nonsense to be frank. If he's that good a player then he deserves his chance at a big club then. He is that good. If it was someone like Inter and they were offering cash then I'd be gutted but could accept it. Going to City who aren't even in the CL for a pisstake offer would be another matter entirely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Swap Johnson for Bellamy and we got a deal 1878? I'd still be very apprehensive. I'd rather Arteta just stayed because the damage him leaving would do to our side is huge. I don't think we could replace him adequately without spending over £20m and players in that bracket probably wouldn't want to come to Everton anyway. Steven Ireland certainly can't replace him. On paper an offer of Ireland/Onouha/Bellamy would improve the squad as a whole but I think in practice we'd be weakened because the midfield would have a gaping hole. You'd be far better asking for £50m and using the money on players that aren't overpaid City rejects imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Would be a good deal for Everton, they could end up squeezing another player out of them or some cash. Ireland would work well at Everton, probably more so than Arteta. Eh? Arteta has been class for Everton for a number of seasons now. Big injury last season, 28, last chance to move for good money. Yeah, a big injury and then he came back and was top class again coinciding with our great run of form. It's impossible to understate how important he is to our team. Ireland is half the player and has a reputation bigger than he deserves so to say he'd work better here than Arteta is just total nonsense to be frank. If he's that good a player then he deserves his chance at a big club then. He is that good. If it was someone like Inter and they were offering cash then I'd be gutted but could accept it. Going to City who aren't even in the CL for a pisstake offer would be another matter entirely. I'm just messing with you, I know how good he is, but do think Ireland is an excellent player and will get you goals galore and his work rate would tie in nicely with Everton's setup. As we've seen with Lescott, you won't do bad out of any deal with Citeh, far from it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 http://cdn.faniq.com/images/blog/Stephen%20Ireland%20Range%20Rover.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 http://cdn.faniq.com/images/blog/Stephen%20Ireland%20Range%20Rover.jpg http://soccerlens.com/shirts/files/2009/07/everton_0910-away_shirt.jpg Match made in heaven. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Wasn't the car colour for a cancer charity? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Yeah you fuckers! I thought it was just his girlfriends? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Yeah you fuckers! I thought it was just his girlfriends? No no, I'm sure I remember reading he did it as a nod to a cancer charity. Like Bramble and a few others who do the A sign when they score, that's also something to do with charity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Yeah you fuckers! I thought it was just his girlfriends? No no, I'm sure I remember reading he did it as a nod to a cancer charity. Like Bramble and a few others who do the A sign when they score, that's also something to do with charity. His house is the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Wasn't the A thing something to do with Fitz Hall's clothing brand thingy? Tbf Ireland could have done it after his grandmothers unfortunate passing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Personally, it would take an astronomical offer to consider letting Arteta go. It can't be emphasised enough how important he is to us. And even if we got big money, to get a midfielder in as good as him would be pretty hard due to the fact few of that level would realistically come to us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 That's numberwang! As an American, I'm proud to say I understood this joke. That is all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 If I was an Everton fan and got offered Bellamy/Ireland and Onuha I'd be torn I think, but only for sentimental reasons. Arteta's mint, but he's 29, had an injury filled season, and those 3 players would improve Everton more than keeping Arteta imo. But then I'm not an Everton fan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Arteta can pretty much play at the top level until he's 32. I think Ireland can become a very good player under good management (which I believe Moyes would provide), but presumably he's on some big wages since he signed a new contract recently. I'd probably stick with Arteta since he's proven to improve Everton significantly when he's on the pitch, but I can see an argument for the transfer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Butt to Blackpool? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Butt to Blackpool? Operation 'Make Sure Others Get Relegated Ahead Of Us' is in full force. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gash Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Aye, heard some blokes in work today saying Anana + Ireland + Johnson for 'Michael' Arteta. I presume they meant Onuoha? That would be a brilliant deal imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Aye, heard some blokes in work today saying Anana + Ireland + Johnson for 'Michael' Arteta. I presume they meant Onuoha? That would be a brilliant deal imo For who? Is Michael Johnson not finished now? Seems the kind of story where his career goes down the pan now tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gash Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 I reckon a decent manager could sort him out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Bet they wish they'd not rejected our (alledged) £8m bid all them moons ago! Last time I saw Johnson he looked like Phil Mitchell (not the poster either). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 As a good as Arteta is for Everton he is seems to be becoming a bit of a perma crock. At 29 I'd certianly listen to offers but given his quality and how important he is to Everton I'd want a better deal that City are allegedly. Having said that I'd wait to see what Pinaar is doing. Don't want to be selling all your creativity at once. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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