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I'm guessing Smith, Viduka and Duff are all on more than Milner wage wise. If Mike Ashley wants to save a few quid on wages then get rid of them before Milner ffs. Keegan and the rest of the players no doubt pissed off.

 

p.s. i know some of you will disagree that Milner is not better than viduka, but your very wrong   :razz:   

 

I agree with you :) The fat aussie is hear to pick up his wages and will spend well over half the season injured.

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Manorpark - reluctant to spend? Surely bids for Coloccini, Modric, Aimer, Inler etc. show that there's money to spend.

 

How many times does this really need to be pointed out?

 

Oh my god  -  "B I D S" . . .

 

(or even more accurately  -  "reported bids").

 

How many times does THAT need to be pointed out?

 

Fine then, lets look at facts. Coloccini for a reported 9m going up to 10.3m - also reported to have signed the 'contract of his life'.

 

True, the Modric bid (I'll forget the Aimer & Inler ones because as Dave said, could be wrong) was made before any players were sold. In the end the deal didn't come off but it shows that the money is there for players of the right calibre. Gutierrez had an original asking price of 10m but we got around the via a loophole, but I imagine we still had to pay a few to get him in.

 

There's a difference between 'selling to buy' and simply getting rid of players that are no good for us.

 

How do you know (or 'imagine') that a Coloccini purchase would have been funded, if we had got (say) Modric?

 

Also, I don't think Keegan would agree with any of you "Milner haters" on here ("no good for us" !!!!)

 

I don't agree with you either.

 

I also asked if you thought it would just be a 'mere coincidence' if Ashley actually spends some money RIGHT NOW?

 

Well?

 

I'd rather we spent money now than didn't spend any just to prove you and your ridiculous theory wrong. There have been reports of us going for specific players all summer, with either agents or players themselves saying about interest - some I'll take with a pinch of salt but I wouldn't be surprised if some had truth in them. I honestly don't think that the club has been sat about hoping for the likes of James Milner to be sold just so we can buy some players.

 

Coloccini negotiations were started 3 months before he signed and Modric nearly signed in May I believe. Ashley has come out and said how he feels about the club but you clearly haven't read it or decided to simply disregard it because it doesn't fit in with your opinion. Keegan has said about the type of players we want - need even. It's the easiest thing in the world to go out and splash £10m here and there for players, that's how we ended up with Luque and Boumsong.

 

I'm curious where you got the 'Milner Hater' thing from as I've never really slagged him off or wanted him out. I do think that £12m is way too good to turn down though assuming he can be replaced. For a player his age and with his experience he just hasn't moved up the level required for me, he has little pace struggles to cross. I think we can get better and hope we do.

 

 

Wasn't meaning specifically YOU by the 'Milner Hater' thing - sorry if it read like that.

 

There are a LOT on here who are though!

 

You do make a fair few 'broad brush' statements about my opinions and how I form them.  None of them are true, by the way.

 

I am simply observing a disjointed organisation, failing to 'achieve' in the manner that it should be capable of achieving. Naturally (as this organisation is one that I personally care about) I am WORRIED.

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I am personally gutted the Milner has gone, great lad good workrate and what will rile more than anything is that we WILL NOT be getting anybody in..... something is badly wrong at NUFC and we may sign one player which may be this Zaylette guy but we won't be getting a WOW signing and doubt even a replacement for Milner  :dave:

 

I am just waiting to hear what Milner has to say when he signs for Villa about the state of the club and what Ashley has to say when nobody comes in..

 

When Ronaldo wanted to leave Man United, most of their fans were like "fuck it, we'll just replace him". How come we're so desperate to hold on to a pretty average player who actually isn't a first teamer?

 

Because Man United can go after any player in the world as a replacement, and a. afford him and b. have a good chance of getting him?

 

For £12m we could get a player easily as good as Milner.

 

Ronaldo is the best player in the world. Neither AC Milan or Barca will sell the 2nd and 3rd best players in the world to Man United.

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Why does everyone assume that KK wants to keep Milner?

 

True he's talked him up a lot in the media but he's not even guaranteed a place in the 1st team when everyone's fit, Geremi is a more productive player.

 

Not every manager has to subscribe to the Graeme "He'll never play for this club again!" Souness school of transfer dealings.

 

Perhaps Keegan is aware that talking down a player's ability isn't the brightest way to increase his transfer value.

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I'm guessing Smith, Viduka and Duff are all on more than Milner wage wise. If Mike Ashley wants to save a few quid on wages then get rid of them before Milner ffs. Keegan and the rest of the players no doubt pissed off.

 

p.s. i know some of you will disagree that Milner is not better than viduka, but your very wrong  :razz: 

 

I agree with you :) The fat aussie is hear to pick up his wages and will spend well over half the season injured.

 

This is not about Viduka, Smith or Duff and what wages they are on. It's about the club receiving a bid for a wantaway player at four times his worth.

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Manorpark - reluctant to spend? Surely bids for Coloccini, Modric, Aimer, Inler etc. show that there's money to spend.

 

How many times does this really need to be pointed out?

 

Oh my god  -  "B I D S" . . .

 

(or even more accurately  -  "reported bids").

 

How many times does THAT need to be pointed out?

 

Fine then, lets look at facts. Coloccini for a reported 9m going up to 10.3m - also reported to have signed the 'contract of his life'.

 

True, the Modric bid (I'll forget the Aimer & Inler ones because as Dave said, could be wrong) was made before any players were sold. In the end the deal didn't come off but it shows that the money is there for players of the right calibre. Gutierrez had an original asking price of 10m but we got around the via a loophole, but I imagine we still had to pay a few to get him in.

 

There's a difference between 'selling to buy' and simply getting rid of players that are no good for us.

 

How do you know (or 'imagine') that a Coloccini purchase would have been funded, if we had got (say) Modric?

 

Also, I don't think Keegan would agree with any of you "Milner haters" on here ("no good for us" !!!!)

 

I don't agree with you either.

 

I also asked if you thought it would just be a 'mere coincidence' if Ashley actually spends some money RIGHT NOW?

 

Well?

 

I'd rather we spent money now than didn't spend any just to prove you and your ridiculous theory wrong. There have been reports of us going for specific players all summer, with either agents or players themselves saying about interest - some I'll take with a pinch of salt but I wouldn't be surprised if some had truth in them. I honestly don't think that the club has been sat about hoping for the likes of James Milner to be sold just so we can buy some players.

 

Coloccini negotiations were started 3 months before he signed and Modric nearly signed in May I believe. Ashley has come out and said how he feels about the club but you clearly haven't read it or decided to simply disregard it because it doesn't fit in with your opinion. Keegan has said about the type of players we want - need even. It's the easiest thing in the world to go out and splash £10m here and there for players, that's how we ended up with Luque and Boumsong.

 

I'm curious where you got the 'Milner Hater' thing from as I've never really slagged him off or wanted him out. I do think that £12m is way too good to turn down though assuming he can be replaced. For a player his age and with his experience he just hasn't moved up the level required for me, he has little pace struggles to cross. I think we can get better and hope we do.

 

 

Wasn't meaning specifically YOU by the 'Milner Hater' thing - sorry if it read like that.

 

There are a LOT on here who are though!

 

You do make a fair few 'broad brush' statements about my opinions and how I form them.  None of them are true, by the way.

 

I am simply observing a disjointed organisation, failing to 'achieve' in the manner that it should be capable of achieving. Naturally (as this organisation is one that I personally care about) I am WORRIED.

 

theres no people who hate milner, but they see right through him, to what he is? a very overated english player, who can't cross, shoot and has no pace

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I'm guessing Smith, Viduka and Duff are all on more than Milner wage wise. If Mike Ashley wants to save a few quid on wages then get rid of them before Milner ffs. Keegan and the rest of the players no doubt pissed off.

 

p.s. i know some of you will disagree that Milner is not better than viduka, but your very wrong    :razz:   

 

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Manorpark - reluctant to spend? Surely bids for Coloccini, Modric, Aimer, Inler etc. show that there's money to spend.

 

How many times does this really need to be pointed out?

 

Oh my god  -  "B I D S" . . .

 

(or even more accurately  -  "reported bids").

 

How many times does THAT need to be pointed out?

 

Fine then, lets look at facts. Coloccini for a reported 9m going up to 10.3m - also reported to have signed the 'contract of his life'.

 

True, the Modric bid (I'll forget the Aimer & Inler ones because as Dave said, could be wrong) was made before any players were sold. In the end the deal didn't come off but it shows that the money is there for players of the right calibre. Gutierrez had an original asking price of 10m but we got around the via a loophole, but I imagine we still had to pay a few to get him in.

 

There's a difference between 'selling to buy' and simply getting rid of players that are no good for us.

 

How do you know (or 'imagine') that a Coloccini purchase would have been funded, if we had got (say) Modric?

 

Also, I don't think Keegan would agree with any of you "Milner haters" on here ("no good for us" !!!!)

 

I don't agree with you either.

 

I also asked if you thought it would just be a 'mere coincidence' if Ashley actually spends some money RIGHT NOW?

 

Well?

 

I'd rather we spent money now than didn't spend any just to prove you and your ridiculous theory wrong. There have been reports of us going for specific players all summer, with either agents or players themselves saying about interest - some I'll take with a pinch of salt but I wouldn't be surprised if some had truth in them. I honestly don't think that the club has been sat about hoping for the likes of James Milner to be sold just so we can buy some players.

 

Coloccini negotiations were started 3 months before he signed and Modric nearly signed in May I believe. Ashley has come out and said how he feels about the club but you clearly haven't read it or decided to simply disregard it because it doesn't fit in with your opinion. Keegan has said about the type of players we want - need even. It's the easiest thing in the world to go out and splash £10m here and there for players, that's how we ended up with Luque and Boumsong.

 

I'm curious where you got the 'Milner Hater' thing from as I've never really slagged him off or wanted him out. I do think that £12m is way too good to turn down though assuming he can be replaced. For a player his age and with his experience he just hasn't moved up the level required for me, he has little pace struggles to cross. I think we can get better and hope we do.

 

 

Wasn't meaning specifically YOU by the 'Milner Hater' thing - sorry if it read like that.

 

There are a LOT on here who are though!

 

You do make a fair few 'broad brush' statements about my opinions and how I form them.  None of them are true, by the way.

 

I am simply observing a disjointed organisation, failing to 'achieve' in the manner that it should be capable of achieving. Naturally (as this organisation is one that I personally care about) I am WORRIED.

 

theres no people who hate milner, but they see right through him, to what he is? a very overated english player, who can't cross, shoot and has no pace

 

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Manorpark - reluctant to spend? Surely bids for Coloccini, Modric, Aimer, Inler etc. show that there's money to spend.

 

How many times does this really need to be pointed out?

 

Oh my god  -  "B I D S" . . .

 

(or even more accurately  -  "reported bids").

 

How many times does THAT need to be pointed out?

 

Fine then, lets look at facts. Coloccini for a reported 9m going up to 10.3m - also reported to have signed the 'contract of his life'.

 

True, the Modric bid (I'll forget the Aimer & Inler ones because as Dave said, could be wrong) was made before any players were sold. In the end the deal didn't come off but it shows that the money is there for players of the right calibre. Gutierrez had an original asking price of 10m but we got around the via a loophole, but I imagine we still had to pay a few to get him in.

 

There's a difference between 'selling to buy' and simply getting rid of players that are no good for us.

 

How do you know (or 'imagine') that a Coloccini purchase would have been funded, if we had got (say) Modric?

 

Also, I don't think Keegan would agree with any of you "Milner haters" on here ("no good for us" !!!!)

 

I don't agree with you either.

 

I also asked if you thought it would just be a 'mere coincidence' if Ashley actually spends some money RIGHT NOW?

 

Well?

 

Have you ever thought that we might not have budgeted to buy another RM, and therefore we need the money from his transfer before we can buy a replacement.

 

er . . . is that not my point !!!!!!!!!!???

 

Eh?

 

We had (in Keegans opinion) a strong pool of wingers and therefore wasn't looking to buy another one.

 

Milner leaves so Keegan decides he does now need one.

 

Ashley sanctions the move.

 

This is not selling to buy. This is replacing a player who wanted to leave*

 

*If you hand a transfer request in you want to leave, bollocks to the looking for a pay rise crap

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I'm guessing Smith, Viduka and Duff are all on more than Milner wage wise. If Mike Ashley wants to save a few quid on wages then get rid of them before Milner ffs. Keegan and the rest of the players no doubt pissed off.

 

p.s. i know some of you will disagree that Milner is not better than viduka, but your very wrong   :razz:  

 

I agree with you :) The fat aussie is hear to pick up his wages and will spend well over half the season injured.

 

This is not about Viduka, Smith or Duff and what wages they are on. It's about the club receiving a bid for a wantaway player at four times his worth.

 

I disagree, this is the club panicking and getting rid of assets people will actually buy, nobody would touch Viduka, Smith or Duff on the wages they are on with the track record they have hence why they are still here.

 

N'zogbia wanted out and even said so but he is still here!!! Milner was a sucess at Aston Villa and with the lack of right wingers about he is a very sellable asset and with the window approaching his value has risen.

 

Not at all disputing that 12 Mil is good value for money but it is the fact we need the money and won't be spending any that is dis-heartening :(

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KK can't be happy with this...

 

That's the only thing that worries me.

 

Though tbf he's been saying similar nice things about Smith and Ameobi that everyone was so keen to dismiss as fibs, so why not the same here? As always, it depends on who comes in. If we get someone like Arda (from what I've seen of him, anyway), KK won't give a flying f*** that Milner's gone.

 

The only way I could see KK agreeing to such a move assuming he has a say which I think he will do is if the money was to be used to bring in someone much better. I still don't think he'd be happy though and to be honest, no manager likes losing players they want to keep even if they get a better player in as a replacement. I'm not blaming the club or anything here btw, if Milner wants to leave which may well be, there isn't much anyone can do.

 

KK might not be happy but he's not stupid either. Someone would have had to pay Milner the extra money for a new contract, do you think KK would offer to give him a cut of his own wages? At the end of the day, whoever pays the bills is the one who makes the decisions and KK will understand that.

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KK can't be happy with this...

 

That's the only thing that worries me.

 

Though tbf he's been saying similar nice things about Smith and Ameobi that everyone was so keen to dismiss as fibs, so why not the same here? As always, it depends on who comes in. If we get someone like Arda (from what I've seen of him, anyway), KK won't give a flying f*** that Milner's gone.

 

The only way I could see KK agreeing to such a move assuming he has a say which I think he will do is if the money was to be used to bring in someone much better. I still don't think he'd be happy though and to be honest, no manager likes losing players they want to keep even if they get a better player in as a replacement. I'm not blaming the club or anything here btw, if Milner wants to leave which may well be, there isn't much anyone can do.

 

KK might not be happy but he's not stupid either. Someone would have had to pay Milner the extra money for a new contract, do you think KK would offer to give him a cut of his own wages? At the end of the day, whoever pays the bills is the one who makes the decisions and KK will understand that.

 

He paid Terry Macs wages for his first part season

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I'm guessing Smith, Viduka and Duff are all on more than Milner wage wise. If Mike Ashley wants to save a few quid on wages then get rid of them before Milner ffs. Keegan and the rest of the players no doubt pissed off.

 

p.s. i know some of you will disagree that Milner is not better than viduka, but your very wrong   :razz:  

 

I agree with you :) The fat aussie is hear to pick up his wages and will spend well over half the season injured.

 

This is not about Viduka, Smith or Duff and what wages they are on. It's about the club receiving a bid for a wantaway player at four times his worth.

 

I disagree, this is the club panicking and getting rid of assets people will actually buy, nobody would touch Viduka, Smith or Duff on the wages they are on with the track record they have hence why they are still here.

 

N'zogbia wanted out and even said so but he is still here!!! Milner was a sucess at Aston Villa and with the lack of right wingers about he is a very sellable asset and with the window approaching his value has risen.

 

Not at all disputing that 12 Mil is good value for money but it is the fact we need the money and won't be spending any that is dis-heartening :(

 

Didn't realise we wanted rid of Viduka.

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I'm guessing Smith, Viduka and Duff are all on more than Milner wage wise. If Mike Ashley wants to save a few quid on wages then get rid of them before Milner ffs. Keegan and the rest of the players no doubt pissed off.

 

p.s. i know some of you will disagree that Milner is not better than viduka, but your very wrong   :razz:  

 

I agree with you :) The fat aussie is hear to pick up his wages and will spend well over half the season injured.

 

This is not about Viduka, Smith or Duff and what wages they are on. It's about the club receiving a bid for a wantaway player at four times his worth.

 

I disagree, this is the club panicking and getting rid of assets people will actually buy, nobody would touch Viduka, Smith or Duff on the wages they are on with the track record they have hence why they are still here.

 

N'zogbia wanted out and even said so but he is still here!!! Milner was a sucess at Aston Villa and with the lack of right wingers about he is a very sellable asset and with the window approaching his value has risen.

 

Not at all disputing that 12 Mil is good value for money but it is the fact we need the money and won't be spending any that is dis-heartening :(

 

I think everyone on here is saying that we need to replace him. Nobody (apart from James I guess) is doubting that.

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didn't keegan say he rated emre, and he was sold as well

 

he say's this about every player, to improve their confidence and it also increases their value

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If he's having a medical now, then I hope to god we've got a replacement signed, sealed and all but delivered. I have no problem with him leaving provided cover comes in. Without that, we're shooting ourselves in the foot.

 

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KK can't be happy with this...

 

That's the only thing that worries me.

 

Though tbf he's been saying similar nice things about Smith and Ameobi that everyone was so keen to dismiss as fibs, so why not the same here? As always, it depends on who comes in. If we get someone like Arda (from what I've seen of him, anyway), KK won't give a flying f*** that Milner's gone.

 

The only way I could see KK agreeing to such a move assuming he has a say which I think he will do is if the money was to be used to bring in someone much better. I still don't think he'd be happy though and to be honest, no manager likes losing players they want to keep even if they get a better player in as a replacement. I'm not blaming the club or anything here btw, if Milner wants to leave which may well be, there isn't much anyone can do.

 

KK might not be happy but he's not stupid either. Someone would have had to pay Milner the extra money for a new contract, do you think KK would offer to give him a cut of his own wages? At the end of the day, whoever pays the bills is the one who makes the decisions and KK will understand that.

 

He paid Terry Macs wages for his first part season

 

Well if he wanted to keep Milner so badly he could always pay his...

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Manorpark - reluctant to spend? Surely bids for Coloccini, Modric, Aimer, Inler etc. show that there's money to spend.

 

How many times does this really need to be pointed out?

 

Oh my god  -  "B I D S" . . .

 

(or even more accurately  -  "reported bids").

 

How many times does THAT need to be pointed out?

 

Fine then, lets look at facts. Coloccini for a reported 9m going up to 10.3m - also reported to have signed the 'contract of his life'.

 

True, the Modric bid (I'll forget the Aimer & Inler ones because as Dave said, could be wrong) was made before any players were sold. In the end the deal didn't come off but it shows that the money is there for players of the right calibre. Gutierrez had an original asking price of 10m but we got around the via a loophole, but I imagine we still had to pay a few to get him in.

 

There's a difference between 'selling to buy' and simply getting rid of players that are no good for us.

 

How do you know (or 'imagine') that a Coloccini purchase would have been funded, if we had got (say) Modric?

 

Also, I don't think Keegan would agree with any of you "Milner haters" on here ("no good for us" !!!!)

 

I don't agree with you either.

 

I also asked if you thought it would just be a 'mere coincidence' if Ashley actually spends some money RIGHT NOW?

 

Well?

 

Have you ever thought that we might not have budgeted to buy another RM, and therefore we need the money from his transfer before we can buy a replacement.

 

er . . . is that not my point !!!!!!!!!!???

 

Eh?

 

We had (in Keegans opinion) a strong pool of wingers and therefore wasn't looking to buy another one.

 

Milner leaves so Keegan decides he does now need one.

 

Ashley sanctions the move.

 

This is not selling to buy. This is replacing a player who wanted to leave*

 

*If you hand a transfer request in you want to leave, bollocks to the looking for a pay rise crap

 

Buying when you have sold, when you probably (I said "probably") were not going to buy - irrespective of how the sale originated - is not the sign of a proactive club going forward.

 

I am still STUPID enough to think we should be accumulating good players and moving forward - not taking one step forward and one step backward (in whatever order) . . .

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Manorpark - reluctant to spend? Surely bids for Coloccini, Modric, Aimer, Inler etc. show that there's money to spend.

 

How many times does this really need to be pointed out?

 

Oh my god  -  "B I D S" . . .

 

(or even more accurately  -  "reported bids").

 

How many times does THAT need to be pointed out?

 

Fine then, lets look at facts. Coloccini for a reported 9m going up to 10.3m - also reported to have signed the 'contract of his life'.

 

True, the Modric bid (I'll forget the Aimer & Inler ones because as Dave said, could be wrong) was made before any players were sold. In the end the deal didn't come off but it shows that the money is there for players of the right calibre. Gutierrez had an original asking price of 10m but we got around the via a loophole, but I imagine we still had to pay a few to get him in.

 

There's a difference between 'selling to buy' and simply getting rid of players that are no good for us.

 

How do you know (or 'imagine') that a Coloccini purchase would have been funded, if we had got (say) Modric?

 

Also, I don't think Keegan would agree with any of you "Milner haters" on here ("no good for us" !!!!)

 

I don't agree with you either.

 

I also asked if you thought it would just be a 'mere coincidence' if Ashley actually spends some money RIGHT NOW?

 

Well?

 

I'd rather we spent money now than didn't spend any just to prove you and your ridiculous theory wrong. There have been reports of us going for specific players all summer, with either agents or players themselves saying about interest - some I'll take with a pinch of salt but I wouldn't be surprised if some had truth in them. I honestly don't think that the club has been sat about hoping for the likes of James Milner to be sold just so we can buy some players.

 

Coloccini negotiations were started 3 months before he signed and Modric nearly signed in May I believe. Ashley has come out and said how he feels about the club but you clearly haven't read it or decided to simply disregard it because it doesn't fit in with your opinion. Keegan has said about the type of players we want - need even. It's the easiest thing in the world to go out and splash £10m here and there for players, that's how we ended up with Luque and Boumsong.

 

I'm curious where you got the 'Milner Hater' thing from as I've never really slagged him off or wanted him out. I do think that £12m is way too good to turn down though assuming he can be replaced. For a player his age and with his experience he just hasn't moved up the level required for me, he has little pace struggles to cross. I think we can get better and hope we do.

 

 

Wasn't meaning specifically YOU by the 'Milner Hater' thing - sorry if it read like that.

 

There are a LOT on here who are though!

 

You do make a fair few 'broad brush' statements about my opinions and how I form them.  None of them are true, by the way.

 

I am simply observing a disjointed organisation, failing to 'achieve' in the manner that it should be capable of achieving. Naturally (as this organisation is one that I personally care about) I am WORRIED.

 

Fair play about the Milner craic - same with any of our players I guess. Some go too far, you're right there.

 

On the topic of a disjointed organisation, you could seriously be talking about any premiership club outside of the top 4 really. Tottenham, City and Villa are the only teams that have really strengthened but all of their fans are still dropping bricks - Spurs, especially. I'd much rather we'd have done alot more to improve the first team squad but I think the issue is less with having no money to spend and simply just not being able to get the type of quality that we're after through the doors which is somewhat understandable given the last few seasons of managers, finishes and performances in general.

 

On the whole though, I am happy. We've gotten rid of players that never played or reached their potential - like Carr, Emre and Ramage and replaced them with players that have already shown a marked improvement on the first team squad. Some of the passing and confidence that we've shown against ManUtd, Bolton to a smaller extent and Coventry shows that changes are in place - and we're scoring goals with an unfit Michael Owen which fills me with loads of confidence.

 

I think that even if we had signed more quality, we'd still be in for a hit and miss season hopefully leading to a marked improvement and I feel that we may get a few more names through the door but if we don't I'm confident that we'll do good enough until January. Look what Keegan did at the end of last season with the players he had - that alone gives me faith. I'm not really panicing and if we don't sign anyone else I'll be a bit disappointed but not worried, I'll just go along for the ride because for the first time since Sir Bobby Robson, I trust the manager of the club.

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I am WORRIED.

 

Go check yourself into a clinic for the terminally depressed then before you transmit your doom and gloom to others please.

 

Before I go  -  I have a lovely beachside property for sale, with its own sandy beach.  Its yours if you want it - bring your own spade . . .  or do you want me to dig the head-shaped hole for you?

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If Dennis really is wise, part two of the plan is to now to give Moyes Milner money plus Smith for Arteta. Please God please!

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£12m would be fantastic and probably best in longer term but given the lateness in the transfer market, it may hurt us this season (at least till Jan) and although there is still a few days to go and we may do something yet, my expectations for this season are falling daily.

 

That being said, I would back the sale at £12m - he isn't irreplaceable.

 

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