Guest The Toon Army from farawa Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Getting back to footballing matters. With the new signings and every one fit, my team selection would be. Given Beye Coloccini Taylor Enrique Gutierrez Guthrie Gonzalez N'Zogbia Owen Martins Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stozo Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 What are you basing Gonzalez being better than Butt on? Have you even seen him play? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonTastic Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 What are you basing Gonzalez being better than Butt on? Have you even seen him play? Have you seen Butts passing lately Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Toon Army from farawa Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Butt's getting on now and his passing is getting worse. plus this is a more attacking set up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Back to 4-3-1-2 for me. Given Beye - Colo - Taylor - Enrique/Zoggy (depending on the opposition) Jonas - Guthrie/Barton - Gonzales Owen X.I.S.C.O - Martins (was it Mick Martin who was known as Zico Martin btw?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MrSundlofer Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Given - Bassong, Taylor, Coloccini, Beye - N'Zogbia, Guthrie, Barton, Jonás - Owen, Martins. Given - Enrique, Taylor, Coloccini, Beye - Barton - N'Zogbia, Jonás - Owen - Xisco, Martins. It's hard. Many good attacking options to choose from. A 4-5-3 formation would be great... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Toon Army from farawa Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 It's hard. Many good attacking options to choose from. A 4-5-3 formation would be great... That's 12 men on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobby_solano Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 (was it Mick Martin who was known as Zico Martin btw?) yup, on account of his non brazillian style set pieces lol. i'd go for ----------------given ----------------- beye ------ coloccini -------taylor--------enrique jonas ------ guthrie -------- butt/gonzalez------n'zogbia ---------------owen ----------------xisco / martins ----- Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Lets hope KK stays, cos thats still a decent/good starting line up. Beat Hull next weekend and 7pts from 4 games wont be a bad start at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gallowgate Mag Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 It's hard. Many good attacking options to choose from. A 4-5-3 formation would be great... That's 12 men on the pitch. 13 mate Unless we play rush keeper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 9 100% 1st team starters, the rest can be mixed and matched. Given Colo Taylor Beye Zoggy Jonas Owen Martins Guthrie I guess it would ve ------------Given Beye---Tayl----Colo---Bass Jona---Guth----Nach---Zog --------Owen---Oba Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Back to 4-3-1-2 for me. Given Beye - Colo - Taylor - Enrique/Zoggy (depending on the opposition) Jonas - Guthrie/Barton - Gonzales Owen X.I.S.C.O - Martins (was it Mick Martin who was known as Zico Martin btw?) Exactly how I feel we will ultimately lineup. I love it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Back to 4-3-1-2 for me. Given Beye - Colo - Taylor - Enrique/Zoggy (depending on the opposition) Jonas - Guthrie/Barton - Gonzales Owen X.I.S.C.O - Martins (was it Mick Martin who was known as Zico Martin btw?) Exactly how I feel we will ultimately lineup. I love it. If that team doesn't show the club is moving forward, I don't know what does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BeatMakerz Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Given , Beye, Taylor, Colo, Enrique, Guthrie, Barton, Guiterrez, Owen, Martrins, Viduka Never seen Xisco or Gonzalez play so until I do, I'm undecided on them two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 This: Given Beye Coloccini Taylor Enrique Butt Guthrie Jonas Zoggy Owen Martins I don't know enough about the new boys to judge. I also don't know whether barton is capable of recapturing his old form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 A lot of people are leaving Viduka out. If he's fit, KK will start him, fact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 A lot of people are leaving Viduka out. If he's fit, KK will start him, fact. Aye, i was thinking he probably offers something our other players won't like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edd Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 A lot of people are leaving Viduka out. If he's fit, KK will start him, fact. Aye, i was thinking he probably offers something our other players won't like. Does he have bad breath or something? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
durhamunigeordie Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 If everyones fit and not suspended: Given Beye Taylor Colo Enrique Jonas Guthrie Barton N'Zogbia Owen Martins Subs from: Harper, Bassong, Cacapa, Geremi, Butt, Duff, Smith, Gonzalez, Viduka, Xisco Then you have the youngsters as backup eg: Forster, Krul, Edgar, Kadar, Tozer, Donaldson, Ranger, Zamblera, Lua Lua, Carroll Thats bearing in mind i've never seen Xisco and Gonzalez play, they may well be good enough for the starting eleven in that side. Looking at that its not the worst squad in the world by anystretch although it could do with maybe 2 or 3 more with premiership experience but theres no use dwelling on that now, that is what we have and we have to make the most of it. Out of the youngsters the only ones ive seen play really are edgar who i have been impressed with and Carroll who hasnt really impressed me very much. Oh and theres Shola!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko1892 Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Back to 4-3-1-2 for me. Given Beye - Colo - Taylor - Enrique/Zoggy (depending on the opposition) Jonas - Guthrie/Barton - Gonzales Owen X.I.S.C.O - Martins (was it Mick Martin who was known as Zico Martin btw?) Exactly how I feel we will ultimately lineup. I love it. If that team doesn't show the club is moving forward, I don't know what does. this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Isn't Martins still injured? Fantasy prem thinks so at least. Edit: Oh right, everyone fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 9 100% 1st team starters, the rest can be mixed and matched. Given Colo Taylor Beye Zoggy Jonas Owen Martins Guthrie I guess it would ve ------------Given Beye---Tayl----Colo---Bass Jona---Guth----Nach---Zog --------Owen---Oba Nice line-up but i'd go for ------------Given Beye---Tayl----Colo---Bass Jona-------Guth--------Nach ------------Owen-------------- -------Oba-------Xisco-------- And lets tear them a new arsehole Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Personally I'd ease Gonzales in, any old muppet can see Butt's best days are behind him now, but particularly away from home I think it would be foolish to assume the new boy is going to come in and be the playmaker we so desperately need. I think Hull at home would be a prime time for him to show his credentials. He'll get plenty of time and space on the ball and they aren't the greatest presence physically. It's important if he isn't brilliant against Hull we don't write him off and similarly if he has a particularly good game we praise him as the man we've been looking for. I'd continue in this fashion playing him against teams that will attack us at home but aren't anything to fear in terms of stature. Hopefully this will help him grow in confidence and eventually I'd consider playing him away from home. It's important to remember he's an unknown, just because he's an attacking midfielder, a position we've begged to be filled it doesn't mean he's going to come into our game and set it al alight. I think if he's decent I'd even consider taking him on loan for a second season before we think about a purchase. In either scenario at home I'd go with the 4-3-1-2 with either Owen or Gonzales in the "hole". The new role for Owen reminds of how much I love KK as a manger. His timing and arrival in the box on cue has increased ten-fold since he was deplyed in the attacking midfield role. Alternatively if Gonzales is played his service can only help Owen in a centre forward role. The problem there is if the playmaker role is filled who do you play up top. Do you go big man little man with Viduka or Xisco knocking balls down and laying passes off to either Martins or Owen, or do you go with two little men streching the opposition back line (I have considered two big men for obvious reasons). It depends on the opposition for me. Those with a high back line or slower centre backs can be expolited by the latter, while against better back lines it may be better to mix it up a bit. That of course poses a very nice selection dilema to have. Away from home as much as I'd love to go all guns blazing I'd like to take a sightly more cautious approach. Now I'm not saying we go ten men behind the ball Allerdyce style, but perhaps try something like 3-5-3. This dissolves the boundries somewhat between defence and counter attack. Under pressure the wing backs come back and provide cover and when going forward they provide supposrt. I'd seriously consider someone like Jonas in that kind of role. It may even benafit Beye in terms of confidence, being able to venture forward a bit more. Alternatively there's a 4-2-3-1 which is a bit narrow but you hve two men ala Butt and Guthrie protecting the back four and three midfielders in more attacking roles. I think this could work with Zoggy and Jonas in the more attacking wide roles. Also I would't worry about Butt too much. I see Guthrie as a natural replacement. I think his distribution and ability to create a yard for himself on the ball means he should be able to do well in that role, maybe not at this moment in time but he will grow in stature as his career develops. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 With eveyone fit i'd go for the following: .....................Given Beye....Taylor........Coloccini.....Enrique ......Geremi..Guthrie..Nacho ......Martins. Owen..Jonas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Joephix Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 I'd like to see: ------------Given Beye---Taylor----Coloccini---Enrique Barton-------Guthrie--------Jonas ---------------Owen-------------- -------Martins-------Xisco-------- Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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