ChezGiven Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 He needs to work out if he is either Jenas or Jonas basically. He needs heart for the job, its not easy being in the goldfish bowl. Sounds like he is up for it though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 He needs to work out if he is either Jenas or Jonas basically. He needs heart for the job, its not easy being in the goldfish bowl. Sounds like he is up for it though. He's on a win win as nobody expects too much from him, I think he might surprise a few. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 He needs to work out if he is either Jenas or Jonas basically. He needs heart for the job, its not easy being in the goldfish bowl. Sounds like he is up for it though. He's on a win win as nobody expects too much from him, I think he might surprise a few. Is he banned for Everton? Joking here, black and white army has a deliciously ironic edge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Above all, it's a relief to have someone involved who actually talks -- even though he doesn't seem to know much more about what's going on than the rest of us. Comes over as honest, realistic and likeable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Above all, it's a relief to have someone involved who actually talks -- even though he doesn't seem to know much more about what's going on than the rest of us. Comes over as honest, realistic and likeable.... ....and a reet potty mouth. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/newcastle/3125547/Joe-Kinnear-turns-air-blue-at-Newcastle-in-astonishing-tirade-Football.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Is he banned for Everton? Joking here, black and white army has a deliciously ironic edge. Yes, he's banned from the touchline but he can still get the players up for the game, something they haven't been until the second half on Saturday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 ....and a reet potty mouth. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/newcastle/3125547/Joe-Kinnear-turns-air-blue-at-Newcastle-in-astonishing-tirade-Football.html Good for him, give as good as you get. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ted_Tedson Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Above all, it's a relief to have someone involved who actually talks -- even though he doesn't seem to know much more about what's going on than the rest of us. Comes over as honest, realistic and likeable.... ....and a reet potty mouth. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/newcastle/3125547/Joe-Kinnear-turns-air-blue-at-Newcastle-in-astonishing-tirade-Football.html Full transcript from .com. Bloody hell, the man's a mentalist http://www.nufc.com/2008-09html/2008-10-02kinnear.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrette Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Meh. The full thing for those who can't be bothered checking links. http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/oct/03/newcastleunited.premierleague JK Which one is Simon Bird [Daily Mirror's north-east football writer]? SB Me. JK You're a cunt. SB Thank you. JK Which one is Hickman [Niall, football writer for the Express]? You are out of order. Absolutely fucking out of order. If you do it again, I am telling you you can fuck off and go to another ground. I will not come and stand for that fucking crap. No fucking way, lies. Fuck, you're saying I turned up and they [Newcastle's players] fucked off. SB No Joe, have you read it, it doesn't actually say that. Have you read it? JK I've fucking read it, I've read it. SB It doesn't say that. Have you read it? JK You are trying to fucking undermine my position already. SB Have you read it, it doesn't say that. I knew you knew they were having a day off. JK Fuck off. Fuck off. It's your last fucking chance. SB You read the copy? It doesn't say that you didn't know. JK What about the headline, you think that's a good headline? SB I didn't write the headline, you read the copy. JK You are negative bastards, the pair of you. SB So if I get a new job next week would I take the first day off? No I wouldn't. If I get a new job should I call my boss and tell him I am taking the first day off? JK It is none of your fucking business. What the fuck are you going to do? You ain't got the balls to be a fucking manager. Fucking day off. Do I want your opinion. Do I have to listen to you? SB No, you can listen to who you want. JK I had a 24-hour meeting with the entire staff. SB Joe, you are only here six weeks, you could have done that on Sunday, or Saturday night. JK No, no, no. I didn't want to do it. I had some other things to do. SB What? More important things? JK What are you? My personal secretary? Fuck off. SB You could have done the meeting Saturday night or Sunday. You could have had them watching videos, you could have organised them. JK I was meeting the fucking chairman the owner, everyone else. Talking about things. SB It is a valid point that was made in there. A valid point. JK I can't trust any of you. Niall Hickman Joe, no one could believe that on your first day at your new club, the first-team players were not in. No one could believe it in town. Your first day in the office. JK My first day was with the coaches. I made the decision that I wanted to get as much information out of them. NH But why Monday, no one could believe it? JK I'm not going to tell you anything. I don't understand where you are coming from. You are delighted that Newcastle are getting beat and are in the state they are? Delighted, are you? NH Certainly not. No one wants to see them get beaten, why would we? JK I have done it before. It is going to my fucking lawyers. So are about three others. If they can find something in it that is a court case it is going to court. I am not fucking about. I don't talk to fucking anybody. It is raking up stories. You are fucking so fucking slimy you are raking up players that I got rid of. Players that I had fallen out with. You are not asking Robbie Earle, because he is sensible. You are not asking Warren Barton? No. Because he is fucking sensible. Anyone who had played for me for 10 years at any level ... [but] you will find some cunt that ... Other journalist How long is your contract for Joe? JK None of your business. SB Well it is actually, because we cover the club. The club say you are here to the end of October, then you say six to eight games which would take it to the end of November. We are trying to clarify these issues. We are getting no straight answers from anyone. How long are you here for. It is a dead simple question. And you don't know ... JK I was told the length of contract. Then I was told that possibly the club could be sold in that time. That is as far as I know. That's it finished. I don't know anything else. But I have been ridiculed. He's trying to fucking hide, he's trying to do this or that. There follows an exchange regarding the circumstances under which Kinnear had met the owner Mike Ashley and executive director (football) Dennis Wise. Steve Brenner (football writer for the Sun) We are all grown men and can come in here and sit around and talk about football, but coming in here and calling people cunts? JK Why? Because I am annoyed. I am not accepting that. If it is libellous, it is going to where I want it to go. Newcastle press officer What has been said in here is off the record and doesn't go outside. Journalist Well, is that what Joe thinks? JK Write what you like. Makes no difference to me. Don't affect me I assure you. It'll be the last time I see you anyway. Won't affect me. See how we go at Everton and Chrissy [Chris Hughton, assistant manager] can do it, someone else can do it. Don't trust any of yous. I will pick two local papers and speak to them and the rest can fuck off. I ain't coming up here to have the piss taken out of me. I have a million pages of crap that has been written about me. I'm ridiculed for no reason. I'm defenceless. I can't get a point in, I can't say nothing, I can't do nothing, but I ain't going to be negative. Then, half of you, most of you are trying to get into the players. I'm not going to tell you what the players think of you, so then you try and get into them in some way or another, so I've got a split camp or something like that, something like that. It's ongoing. It just doesn't stop. Journalist It's only been a week. JK Exactly. It feels more like a year. Journalist It's early days for you to be like this. JK No, I'm clearing the air. And this is the last time I'm going to speak to you. You want to know why, I'm telling you. This is the last time. You can do what you like. Journalist But this isn't going to do you or us any good. JK I'll speak to the supporters. I'm going to tell them what the story is. I'm going to tell them. I don't think they'll interpret it any different, I don't think they'll mix it up, I don't think they'll miss out things. I mean, one of them last week said to me ... I was talking about in that press conference where you were there, I said something like "Well, that's a load of bollocks ..." Journalist "Bollocks to that" is what you said. JK Bollocks to that. And what goes after that? Journalist That was it. JK No it wasn't, no it wasn't. What was after it? I don't know if it was your paper, but what went after it? Journalist I don't know. JK It even had the cheek to say "bollocks to Newcastle". Journalist I didn't write that. JK That was my first fucking day. What does that tell you? What does that tell you? Journalist Where was that? Which paper said that? JK I've got it. I can't remember. It was one of the Sundays, not a Saturday. It was a Sunday. Journalist But you didn't say that to the Sundays, you said that to us. That was during the Monday press conference. JK I'll bring it in and show it to you. Why would I want to say that? Journalist Are you saying that someone has reported you saying "bollocks to Newcastle?" JK Yes. Lovely. Journalist I don't know who's reported that. JK I'll tell you what, I'll bring it in. Journalist That's obviously going to damage you. That's not a good thing. But I don't think someone's done that. We have to have some sort of relationship with you. JK So have I. But I haven't come in here for you lot to take the piss out of me. And if I'm not flavour of the month for you, it don't fucking bother me. I've got a job to do. And I'm going to do it to the best of my ability. I'm not going to spend any more time listening to any crap or reading any crap. Stick to the truth and the facts. And don't twist anything. Journalist You know, you know the game ... JK Of course I know, but I don't have to like it. Journalist Today we'll print the absolute truth, that you think we're cunts, we can all fuck off and we're slimy. Is that fair enough? JK Do it. Fine. Fucking print it. Am I going to worry about it? Put in also that it'll be the last time I see you. Put that in as well. Good. Do it. Much, much later after long discussions over whether Kinnear had promised Alan Shearer and Kevin Keegan would be returning to the club Press officer Let's get on to football. Let's have an agreement that everything said so far, if anyone has got their tapes on, it's wiped off and we're not discussing it. Journalist But that's what Joe has said he thinks of us. Press officer I'm saying don't push it. Let's accept what's been said and try and move on. Journalist: Move on to not doing any more press conferences? PO: No, to doing something now. Journalist: What, one press conference only? (Silence) Journalist: Any knocks? PO: Come on, let's go football. Journalist: What are your plans for training in the next three days? How's the training going? JK It's going very well. No problems at all. Journalist Enjoyed getting back in the swing of things? JK Absolutely. I've loved every moment of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ted_Tedson Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Fuck's sake, I was literally about to post the original link for that. It's epic isn't it. Some of the swear in there... I'm still trying to figure out what they are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 He needs to work out if he is either Jenas or Jonas basically. He needs heart for the job, its not easy being in the goldfish bowl. Sounds like he is up for it though. He's on a win win as nobody expects too much from him, I think he might surprise a few. Is he banned for Everton? Joking here, black and white army has a deliciously ironic edge. Having heard the interview JFK's black and white army seems more appropriate somehow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ted_Tedson Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 The uncensored version: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/oct/03/newcastleunited.premierleague Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Only one conclusion can be drawn from that transcript; journalists are utter fucking cunts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gggg Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Journalist It's only been a week. JK Exactly. It feels more like a year. mackems.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offshore Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Only one conclusion can be drawn from that transcript; journalists are utter f***ing c***s. I've another conclusion.........he's mental. I'm defo warming to the guy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Melbourne Toon Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 This guy totally kicks ass, it'll be interesting to see how the journalists report now that they know they could be cut off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooneyToonArmy Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Of course the press will turn it now and say he`s `lost it` and `feeling the pressure` Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Rofl, I'm actually starting to feel optimistic about Everton tomorrow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 JK Which one is Simon Bird [Daily Mirror's north-east football writer]? SB Me. JK You're a cunt. SB Thank you. I have no clue why, but I actually feel like we might win matches under this guy. Go from this crazy bastard right to Fatih Terim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elbel1 Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Rofl, I'm actually starting to feel optimistic about Everton tomorrow Shame we don't play them until sunday :colo: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
catmag Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 At the risk of sounding all holier-than-thou I don't think that using foul language equates to being a great manager, motivator or successful. Yeah, it's nice to know that he 'doesn't give a shit' but I can't help but feel that someone like SBR would be shaking his head in despair at this kind of management style. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 At the risk of sounding all holier-than-thou I don't think that using foul language equates to being a great manager, motivator or successful. Yeah, it's nice to know that he 'doesn't give a shit' but I can't help but feel that someone like SBR would be shaking his head in despair at this kind of management style. I see your point but SBR didn't come into this kind of hostility. It may not be very professional but considering the shit that's been said, perhaps an approach of this nature is needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 At the risk of sounding all holier-than-thou I don't think that using foul language equates to being a great manager, motivator or successful. Yeah, it's nice to know that he 'doesn't give a shit' but I can't help but feel that someone like SBR would be shaking his head in despair at this kind of management style. I don't think anyones attributing great managerial or motivational qualities to someone just because they're using foul language. It's more the emotion behind the expressions that they're cheering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
catmag Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 At the risk of sounding all holier-than-thou I don't think that using foul language equates to being a great manager, motivator or successful. Yeah, it's nice to know that he 'doesn't give a shit' but I can't help but feel that someone like SBR would be shaking his head in despair at this kind of management style. I see your point but SBR didn't come into this kind of hostility. It may not be very professional but considering the shit that's been said, perhaps an approach of this nature is needed. I agree that someone needs to take the job by the scruff of the neck and shake it up. There's nothing wrong with an aggressive approach either, I'm just not convinced that calling journalists c***ts is going to do anything positive. It once again just gives us headlines for the wrong reasons. Our players have done enough of that in recent years without the man in charge (albeit for a short time) adding to that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Seems to be very open and honest, makes a change for us to be told things that are goign on, I bet the club tell him to shut up at some point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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