Sunderland appoint Steve 'I bleed black and white' Bruce as new manager

[dcmk]

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_4954544,00.html

Keane explains Black Cats exit

Former Sunderland boss Roy Keane has blamed American investor Ellis Short and a change of attitude from chairman Niall Quinn for his decision to quit the club.

 

Keane performed miracles at The Stadium of Light after winning promotion to the Premier League at the first attempt before going on to retain their top-flight status in the 2007/08 season with a fine 15th-placed finish.

 

However, Keane dramatically resigned from his Black Cats post in December after 28 months in charge and the Manchester United legend has now spoken for the first time about the reasons behind his departure.

 

The former Republic of Ireland international believes the arrival of Short left him questioning his future due to his unusual requests.

Changing dynamics

 

"We had sat down with him a couple of times, Niall and I," Keane told the Irish Times. "I went down to London to meet him twice. I thought, hmm, the dynamics are changing here.

 

"He said he had read my book. I felt he was thinking from the start that I wasn't for him. He sort of knew this wasn't going to be a long-term relationship.

 

"It started with a demand to know where I had been the previous day, that he wanted me available at all times. It was a disappointment. Then there were accusations about how often I came in, about moving my family up. And it was the tone."

 

Keane also revealed a change in attitude from Quinn concerned him deeply after the club's supremo revealed his desire for the manager to put a smile back on the players' faces.

 

Major concern

 

"He was talking to me about the players needing to come into work with a smile on their face. That really concerned me," he continued.

 

"The day I walked into Sunderland, putting a smile on the faces of well-paid players was the last thing anybody wanted me to do.

 

"Players had been taking the piss out of the club for years. If they wanted them smiling all the time they should have employed Roy Chubby Brown.

 

"My question to Niall was, who are you listening to here? It wasn't Niall. It was the undercurrent. Where it was coming from. Smiles on players' faces? It's my job to get them training well.

 

"There was good spirit. That's what had kept us in the Premiership last year. Our spirit. That got the alarm bells ringing. Without a shadow of a doubt. The American fella would have been on Niall's case."

 

 

Just like with Ireland in the World Cup, Keane's shortcomings as a man are everyone's fault but his own.

 

Where is his excuses?  I read that and didn't see one excuse for the teams performances more of his take on the clubs shifting attitude towards him.  He doesn't criticise the chairmen or players, luck or referees.

 

Give over man, he's blaming the hierarchy that allowed him to waste millions & millions on underperforming players, then suggesting the players had been to Quinn to complain about him.

 

The whole thing is classic Keane.

 

Again.. i don't see any parts of that article where he makes any excuses for his failings .. just speculating there might have been a shift in Sunderlands attitude towards him.  Hardly blaming anyone.

 

You think the reasons he talks about are the reasons he left?

 

He left because he'd lost the players and when he was challenged about his appalling man management he didn't like it. End of story.

 

How do you think the Clive Clarke comments went down with the rest of the players?

 

You said he was blaming the guys above him, and that he had a excuse for his failings - immediately after that article was posted.  When it says anything but dishing out excuses.  Just one day he meet the a big shareholder and another day Niall Quinn told him to cheer up the players. 

 

Groundbreaking.

 

 

 

 

 

Have a read of the whole thing & get back to me.

 

Read this twice, i think you need to read more than the first line to be honest.  Which part does he try shift the blame.. o its probably another article huh? 

 

From the 4th paragraph onwards. I'd also read the Irish times article before it was posted here.

 

Yeah that explains why he weren't able to do his job properly doesn't it.  Bravo.

 

Ah changing your argument. 

 

You now want to argue they didnt allow him to do his job instead

 

Can't be arsed with that, so I'll leave you to it.

 

mackems.gif

 

Oh man thats pathetic, i thought you would pull something like that off.

Whole thing was how Roy Keane blames his failing on others, and at NO point have you pointed out how in the article posted above.  He blames no one, no one gets in the way of his job, he doesn't blame his players, injuries, chairman, nothing.  Just speculates attitudes around him were changing.  Speaking s*** as per usual buddy and i called you on it

 

The most controversial bit about the chairman was how he told Keane to cheer up the players, scandalous.

 

So once again your argument was pathetic

 

"He said he had read my book. I felt he was thinking from the start that I wasn't for him. He sort of knew this wasn't going to be a long-term relationship.

 

"It started with a demand to know where I had been the previous day, that he wanted me available at all times. It was a disappointment. Then there were accusations about how often I came in, about moving my family up. And it was the tone."

 

Keane also revealed a change in attitude from Quinn concerned him deeply after the club's supremo revealed his desire for the manager to put a smile back on the players' faces.

 

Major concern

 

"He was talking to me about the players needing to come into work with a smile on their face. That really concerned me," he continued.

 

"The day I walked into Sunderland, putting a smile on the faces of well-paid players was the last thing anybody wanted me to do.

 

"Players had been taking the piss out of the club for years. If they wanted them smiling all the time they should have employed Roy Chubby Brown.

 

"My question to Niall was, who are you listening to here? It wasn't Niall.[b/] It was the undercurrent. Where it was coming from. Smiles on players' faces? It's my job to get them training well.

 

"There was good spirit. That's what had kept us in the Premiership last year. Our spirit. That got the alarm bells ringing. Without a shadow of a doubt. The American fella would have been on Niall's case."

 

 

f*** me, can you just not read?

 

FFS that REALLY blames everyone but himself.  To be the manager of Sunderland.  "Really concerns him", "Then there were accusations about how often I came in".

 

Is that why he failed?  He blames who?  The chairmen for asking him tough questions, this stopped them getting results?

 

OO i thought when an ex manager blames a chairmen its because he wasn't backed, they picked the team not asking him 'concerning' questions.

 

Stop it now, your embarrassing yourself unless your going to point out WHERE ROY KEANE BLAMES SOMEONE FOR HIS FAILURE. 

 

As Roy says himself, "it's in the undercurrent"

 

He's given an interview on his departure & not once mentioned his failings.

 

So you admit you were wrong about that, about time.  He didnt blame anyone, chairmen, no referees, injuries, doesn't say he wasn't backed or supported well enough - just the attitudes were changing around him in that article.

 

Undercurrent like concealed and not exposed huh?  This affected his job so much it made him fail i guess .  Putting words into his mouth, to support this ridiculous argument.

 

Thanks for clearing that up

[Liam Liam Liam O]

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_4954544,00.html

Keane explains Black Cats exit

Former Sunderland boss Roy Keane has blamed American investor Ellis Short and a change of attitude from chairman Niall Quinn for his decision to quit the club.

 

Keane performed miracles at The Stadium of Light after winning promotion to the Premier League at the first attempt before going on to retain their top-flight status in the 2007/08 season with a fine 15th-placed finish.

 

However, Keane dramatically resigned from his Black Cats post in December after 28 months in charge and the Manchester United legend has now spoken for the first time about the reasons behind his departure.

 

The former Republic of Ireland international believes the arrival of Short left him questioning his future due to his unusual requests.

Changing dynamics

 

"We had sat down with him a couple of times, Niall and I," Keane told the Irish Times. "I went down to London to meet him twice. I thought, hmm, the dynamics are changing here.

 

"He said he had read my book. I felt he was thinking from the start that I wasn't for him. He sort of knew this wasn't going to be a long-term relationship.

 

"It started with a demand to know where I had been the previous day, that he wanted me available at all times. It was a disappointment. Then there were accusations about how often I came in, about moving my family up. And it was the tone."

 

Keane also revealed a change in attitude from Quinn concerned him deeply after the club's supremo revealed his desire for the manager to put a smile back on the players' faces.

 

Major concern

 

"He was talking to me about the players needing to come into work with a smile on their face. That really concerned me," he continued.

 

"The day I walked into Sunderland, putting a smile on the faces of well-paid players was the last thing anybody wanted me to do.

 

"Players had been taking the piss out of the club for years. If they wanted them smiling all the time they should have employed Roy Chubby Brown.

 

"My question to Niall was, who are you listening to here? It wasn't Niall. It was the undercurrent. Where it was coming from. Smiles on players' faces? It's my job to get them training well.

 

"There was good spirit. That's what had kept us in the Premiership last year. Our spirit. That got the alarm bells ringing. Without a shadow of a doubt. The American fella would have been on Niall's case."

 

 

Just like with Ireland in the World Cup, Keane's shortcomings as a man are everyone's fault but his own.

 

Where is his excuses?  I read that and didn't see one excuse for the teams performances more of his take on the clubs shifting attitude towards him.  He doesn't criticise the chairmen or players, luck or referees.

 

Give over man, he's blaming the hierarchy that allowed him to waste millions & millions on underperforming players, then suggesting the players had been to Quinn to complain about him.

 

The whole thing is classic Keane.

 

Again.. i don't see any parts of that article where he makes any excuses for his failings .. just speculating there might have been a shift in Sunderlands attitude towards him.  Hardly blaming anyone.

 

You think the reasons he talks about are the reasons he left?

 

He left because he'd lost the players and when he was challenged about his appalling man management he didn't like it. End of story.

 

How do you think the Clive Clarke comments went down with the rest of the players?

 

You said he was blaming the guys above him, and that he had a excuse for his failings - immediately after that article was posted.  When it says anything but dishing out excuses.  Just one day he meet the a big shareholder and another day Niall Quinn told him to cheer up the players. 

 

Groundbreaking.

 

 

 

 

 

Have a read of the whole thing & get back to me.

 

Read this twice, i think you need to read more than the first line to be honest.  Which part does he try shift the blame.. o its probably another article huh? 

 

From the 4th paragraph onwards. I'd also read the Irish times article before it was posted here.

 

Yeah that explains why he weren't able to do his job properly doesn't it.  Bravo.

 

Ah changing your argument. 

 

You now want to argue they didnt allow him to do his job instead

 

Can't be arsed with that, so I'll leave you to it.

 

mackems.gif

 

Oh man thats pathetic, i thought you would pull something like that off.

Whole thing was how Roy Keane blames his failing on others, and at NO point have you pointed out how in the article posted above.  He blames no one, no one gets in the way of his job, he doesn't blame his players, injuries, chairman, nothing.  Just speculates attitudes around him were changing.  Speaking s*** as per usual buddy and i called you on it

 

The most controversial bit about the chairman was how he told Keane to cheer up the players, scandalous.

 

So once again your argument was pathetic

 

"He said he had read my book. I felt he was thinking from the start that I wasn't for him. He sort of knew this wasn't going to be a long-term relationship.

 

"It started with a demand to know where I had been the previous day, that he wanted me available at all times. It was a disappointment. Then there were accusations about how often I came in, about moving my family up. And it was the tone."

 

Keane also revealed a change in attitude from Quinn concerned him deeply after the club's supremo revealed his desire for the manager to put a smile back on the players' faces.

 

Major concern

 

"He was talking to me about the players needing to come into work with a smile on their face. That really concerned me," he continued.

 

"The day I walked into Sunderland, putting a smile on the faces of well-paid players was the last thing anybody wanted me to do.

 

"Players had been taking the piss out of the club for years. If they wanted them smiling all the time they should have employed Roy Chubby Brown.

 

"My question to Niall was, who are you listening to here? It wasn't Niall.[b/] It was the undercurrent. Where it was coming from. Smiles on players' faces? It's my job to get them training well.

 

"There was good spirit. That's what had kept us in the Premiership last year. Our spirit. That got the alarm bells ringing. Without a shadow of a doubt. The American fella would have been on Niall's case."

 

 

f*** me, can you just not read?

 

FFS that REALLY blames everyone but himself.  To be the manager of Sunderland.  "Really concerns him", "Then there were accusations about how often I came in".

 

Is that why he failed?  He blames who?  The chairmen for asking him tough questions, this stopped them getting results?

 

OO i thought when an ex manager blames a chairmen its because he wasn't backed, they picked the team not asking him 'concerning' questions.

 

Stop it now, your embarrassing yourself unless your going to point out WHERE ROY KEANE BLAMES SOMEONE FOR HIS FAILURE. 

 

As Roy says himself, "it's in the undercurrent"

 

He's given an interview on his departure & not once mentioned his failings.

 

So you admit you were wrong about that, about time.  He didnt blame anyone, chairmen, no referees, injuries, doesn't say he wasn't backed or supported well enough - just the attitudes were changing around him in that article.

 

Thanks for clearing that up

 

Eh?

 

He's given an interview, said loads about how others made it difficult, criticised players, suggested Quinn wouldn't stand up for him, suggested they queried the job he was doing, suggested he wasn't spending a satisfactory amount of time there.

 

He's not once said "Perhaps I could have.............."

 

That was exactly my point, that's what he does, & it's what he's done here.

 

[dcmk]

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_4954544,00.html

Keane explains Black Cats exit

Former Sunderland boss Roy Keane has blamed American investor Ellis Short and a change of attitude from chairman Niall Quinn for his decision to quit the club.

 

Keane performed miracles at The Stadium of Light after winning promotion to the Premier League at the first attempt before going on to retain their top-flight status in the 2007/08 season with a fine 15th-placed finish.

 

However, Keane dramatically resigned from his Black Cats post in December after 28 months in charge and the Manchester United legend has now spoken for the first time about the reasons behind his departure.

 

The former Republic of Ireland international believes the arrival of Short left him questioning his future due to his unusual requests.

Changing dynamics

 

"We had sat down with him a couple of times, Niall and I," Keane told the Irish Times. "I went down to London to meet him twice. I thought, hmm, the dynamics are changing here.

 

"He said he had read my book. I felt he was thinking from the start that I wasn't for him. He sort of knew this wasn't going to be a long-term relationship.

 

"It started with a demand to know where I had been the previous day, that he wanted me available at all times. It was a disappointment. Then there were accusations about how often I came in, about moving my family up. And it was the tone."

 

Keane also revealed a change in attitude from Quinn concerned him deeply after the club's supremo revealed his desire for the manager to put a smile back on the players' faces.

 

Major concern

 

"He was talking to me about the players needing to come into work with a smile on their face. That really concerned me," he continued.

 

"The day I walked into Sunderland, putting a smile on the faces of well-paid players was the last thing anybody wanted me to do.

 

"Players had been taking the piss out of the club for years. If they wanted them smiling all the time they should have employed Roy Chubby Brown.

 

"My question to Niall was, who are you listening to here? It wasn't Niall. It was the undercurrent. Where it was coming from. Smiles on players' faces? It's my job to get them training well.

 

"There was good spirit. That's what had kept us in the Premiership last year. Our spirit. That got the alarm bells ringing. Without a shadow of a doubt. The American fella would have been on Niall's case."

 

 

Just like with Ireland in the World Cup, Keane's shortcomings as a man are everyone's fault but his own.

 

Where is his excuses?  I read that and didn't see one excuse for the teams performances more of his take on the clubs shifting attitude towards him.  He doesn't criticise the chairmen or players, luck or referees.

 

Give over man, he's blaming the hierarchy that allowed him to waste millions & millions on underperforming players, then suggesting the players had been to Quinn to complain about him.

 

The whole thing is classic Keane.

 

Again.. i don't see any parts of that article where he makes any excuses for his failings .. just speculating there might have been a shift in Sunderlands attitude towards him.  Hardly blaming anyone.

 

You think the reasons he talks about are the reasons he left?

 

He left because he'd lost the players and when he was challenged about his appalling man management he didn't like it. End of story.

 

How do you think the Clive Clarke comments went down with the rest of the players?

 

You said he was blaming the guys above him, and that he had a excuse for his failings - immediately after that article was posted.  When it says anything but dishing out excuses.  Just one day he meet the a big shareholder and another day Niall Quinn told him to cheer up the players. 

 

Groundbreaking.

 

 

 

 

 

Have a read of the whole thing & get back to me.

 

Read this twice, i think you need to read more than the first line to be honest.  Which part does he try shift the blame.. o its probably another article huh? 

 

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_4954544,00.html

Keane explains Black Cats exit

Former Sunderland boss Roy Keane has blamed American investor Ellis Short and a change of attitude from chairman Niall Quinn for his decision to quit the club.

 

Keane performed miracles at The Stadium of Light after winning promotion to the Premier League at the first attempt before going on to retain their top-flight status in the 2007/08 season with a fine 15th-placed finish.

 

However, Keane dramatically resigned from his Black Cats post in December after 28 months in charge and the Manchester United legend has now spoken for the first time about the reasons behind his departure.

 

The former Republic of Ireland international believes the arrival of Short left him questioning his future due to his unusual requests.

Changing dynamics

 

"We had sat down with him a couple of times, Niall and I," Keane told the Irish Times. "I went down to London to meet him twice. I thought, hmm, the dynamics are changing here.

 

"He said he had read my book. I felt he was thinking from the start that I wasn't for him. He sort of knew this wasn't going to be a long-term relationship.

 

"It started with a demand to know where I had been the previous day, that he wanted me available at all times. It was a disappointment. Then there were accusations about how often I came in, about moving my family up. And it was the tone."

 

Keane also revealed a change in attitude from Quinn concerned him deeply after the club's supremo revealed his desire for the manager to put a smile back on the players' faces.

 

Major concern

 

"He was talking to me about the players needing to come into work with a smile on their face. That really concerned me," he continued.

 

"The day I walked into Sunderland, putting a smile on the faces of well-paid players was the last thing anybody wanted me to do.

 

"Players had been taking the piss out of the club for years. If they wanted them smiling all the time they should have employed Roy Chubby Brown.

 

"My question to Niall was, who are you listening to here? It wasn't Niall. It was the undercurrent. Where it was coming from. Smiles on players' faces? It's my job to get them training well.

 

"There was good spirit. That's what had kept us in the Premiership last year. Our spirit. That got the alarm bells ringing. Without a shadow of a doubt. The American fella would have been on Niall's case."

 

 

Just like with Ireland in the World Cup, Keane's shortcomings as a man are everyone's fault but his own.

 

Where is his excuses?  I read that and didn't see one excuse for the teams performances more of his take on the clubs shifting attitude towards him.  He doesn't criticise the chairmen or players, luck or referees.

 

Give over man, he's blaming the hierarchy that allowed him to waste millions & millions on underperforming players, then suggesting the players had been to Quinn to complain about him.

 

The whole thing is classic Keane.

 

Again.. i don't see any parts of that article where he makes any excuses for his failings .. just speculating there might have been a shift in Sunderlands attitude towards him.  Hardly blaming anyone.

 

You think the reasons he talks about are the reasons he left?

 

He left because he'd lost the players and when he was challenged about his appalling man management he didn't like it. End of story.

 

How do you think the Clive Clarke comments went down with the rest of the players?

 

You said he was blaming the guys above him, and that he had a excuse for his failings - immediately after that article was posted.  When it says anything but dishing out excuses.  Just one day he meet the a big shareholder and another day Niall Quinn told him to cheer up the players. 

 

Groundbreaking.

 

 

 

 

 

Have a read of the whole thing & get back to me.

 

Read this twice, i think you need to read more than the first line to be honest.  Which part does he try shift the blame.. o its probably another article huh? 

 

From the 4th paragraph onwards. I'd also read the Irish times article before it was posted here.

 

Yeah that explains why he weren't able to do his job properly doesn't it.  Bravo.

 

Ah changing your argument. 

 

You now want to argue they didnt allow him to do his job instead

 

Can't be arsed with that, so I'll leave you to it.

 

mackems.gif

 

Oh man thats pathetic, i thought you would pull something like that off.

Whole thing was how Roy Keane blames his failing on others, and at NO point have you pointed out how in the article posted above.  He blames no one, no one gets in the way of his job, he doesn't blame his players, injuries, chairman, nothing.  Just speculates attitudes around him were changing.  Speaking s*** as per usual buddy and i called you on it

 

The most controversial bit about the chairman was how he told Keane to cheer up the players, scandalous.

 

So once again your argument was pathetic

 

"He said he had read my book. I felt he was thinking from the start that I wasn't for him. He sort of knew this wasn't going to be a long-term relationship.

 

"It started with a demand to know where I had been the previous day, that he wanted me available at all times. It was a disappointment. Then there were accusations about how often I came in, about moving my family up. And it was the tone."

 

Keane also revealed a change in attitude from Quinn concerned him deeply after the club's supremo revealed his desire for the manager to put a smile back on the players' faces.

 

Major concern

 

"He was talking to me about the players needing to come into work with a smile on their face. That really concerned me," he continued.

 

"The day I walked into Sunderland, putting a smile on the faces of well-paid players was the last thing anybody wanted me to do.

 

"Players had been taking the piss out of the club for years. If they wanted them smiling all the time they should have employed Roy Chubby Brown.

 

"My question to Niall was, who are you listening to here? It wasn't Niall.[b/] It was the undercurrent. Where it was coming from. Smiles on players' faces? It's my job to get them training well.

 

"There was good spirit. That's what had kept us in the Premiership last year. Our spirit. That got the alarm bells ringing. Without a shadow of a doubt. The American fella would have been on Niall's case."

 

 

f*** me, can you just not read?

 

FFS that REALLY blames everyone but himself.  To be the manager of Sunderland.  "Really concerns him", "Then there were accusations about how often I came in".

 

Is that why he failed?  He blames who?  The chairmen for asking him tough questions, this stopped them getting results?

 

OO i thought when an ex manager blames a chairmen its because he wasn't backed, they picked the team not asking him 'concerning' questions.

 

Stop it now, your embarrassing yourself unless your going to point out WHERE ROY KEANE BLAMES SOMEONE FOR HIS FAILURE. 

 

As Roy says himself, "it's in the undercurrent"

 

He's given an interview on his departure & not once mentioned his failings.

 

So you admit you were wrong about that, about time.  He didnt blame anyone, chairmen, no referees, injuries, doesn't say he wasn't backed or supported well enough - just the attitudes were changing around him in that article.

 

Thanks for clearing that up

 

Eh?

 

He's given an interview, said loads about how others made it difficult, criticised players, suggested Quinn wouldn't stand up for him, suggested they queried the job he was doing, suggested he wasn't spending a satisfactory amount of time there.

 

He's not once said "Perhaps I could have.............."

 

That was exactly my point, that's what he does, & it's what he's done here.

 

 

We was always speaking about that article and you know it.  Just accept it you got it wrong.

 

You said it was classic keane blaming everyone but himself.  In the article - never mentions results, how he left.  Doesn't make any excuses.

[Liam Liam Liam O]

 

We was always speaking about that article and you know it.  Just accept it you got it wrong.

 

You said it was classic keane blaming everyone but himself.  In the article - never mentions results, how he left.  Doesn't make any excuses.

 

No we wasn't (sic)

 

We was (sic again) talking about Keane being the sort of bloke who blames everyone but himself, just like he does in the interview he's given.  The two articles posted come from the same interview, you do realise that?

[dcmk]

 

We was always speaking about that article and you know it.  Just accept it you got it wrong.

 

You said it was classic keane blaming everyone but himself.  In the article - never mentions results, how he left.  Doesn't make any excuses.

 

No we wasn't (sic)

 

We was (sic again) talking about Keane being the sort of bloke who blames everyone but himself, just like he does in the interview he's given.  The two articles posted come from the same interview, you do realise that?

 

Again he doesnt blame anyone in that article, not even a single mention of results, injuries, not being backed.  Just a 'concerning' and 'undercurrent' snippets from the guy which you have exaggerated beyond belief.

 

We aren't going to agree, let you carry on if you want.  If you find anything in the article which actually support your claims gimme a shout.

[Liam Liam Liam O]

 

We was always speaking about that article and you know it.  Just accept it you got it wrong.

 

You said it was classic keane blaming everyone but himself.  In the article - never mentions results, how he left.  Doesn't make any excuses.

 

No we wasn't (sic)

 

We was (sic again) talking about Keane being the sort of bloke who blames everyone but himself, just like he does in the interview he's given.  The two articles posted come from the same interview, you do realise that?

 

Again he doesnt blame anyone in that article, not even a single mention of results, injuries, not being backed.  Just a 'concerning' and 'undercurrent' snippets from the guy which you have exaggerated beyond belief.

 

We aren't going to agree, let you carry on if you want.  If you find anything in the article which actually support your claims gimme a shout.

 

That one is littered with him saying what other people did that wasn't right, but at no point does he say "I might have..." or "I should have.....".  If you ever bother to read it gimme a shout.

 

He's like Allardyce & Souness in that respect.  In fact the comparison with Souness' management style is probably a very good one.

 

If you're not going to read it though you're probably right that continuing the argument is pointless.

[Robster]

Rumours of a Sunderland approach for Curbishley.

Bad time for rumours like this to be springing up - possibly undermining the manager.

 

Quinn rubbishing them obviously.

[Alberto2005]

Pretty much a backwards and desperate move if they appoint Curbishley.

[MW]

Pretty much a backwards and desperate move if they appoint Curbishley.

 

He'd be better than Sbragia. Still can't believe he was appointed. Hope they dont get Curbishley.

[midds]

This is the first sign of them hitting the panic button hopefully. Sacking a manager with only 6 games to go is asking for bother.

[Guest BooBoo]

Sbragia had "Roeder mark II" written all over it. Actually, in comparison, Glenda is a tactical genius compared to the non entity Ricky.

[Disco]

Sbragia won't be manager next season regardless. Read a lot on the mackems boards that they think they have someone lined up in the summer

[Thespence]

Poor Rick

 

http://www.televisionheaven.co.uk/happydaysside6.jpg

[Guest toonlass]

Rumours of a Sunderland approach for Curbishley.

Bad time for rumours like this to be springing up - possibly undermining the manager.

 

Quinn rubbishing them obviously.

 

[mrmojorisin75]

Poor Rick

 

http://www.televisionheaven.co.uk/happydaysside6.jpg

 

a-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha 

 

gold

[nobby_solano]

Poor Rick

 

http://www.televisionheaven.co.uk/happydaysside6.jpg

 

that's brilliant!

i'd been trying to think who he reminded me of.

 

the mackem's i've heard bleating reckon van gaal / jol are lined up. and they think we're deluded?!

[joeyt]

Caretakers never work in the modern game

[Guest The Libertine]

Caretakers never work in the modern game

 

they can, its just quite rare that a good enough manager is available/willing to take on the job. its usually the shit managers who cant get a job elsewhere who take the job and fail. hiddink is a current example of it working and hopefully shearer will be.

[joeyt]

Caretakers never work in the modern game

 

they can, its just quite rare that a good enough manager is available/willing to take on the job. its usually the s*** managers who cant get a job elsewhere who take the job and fail. hiddink is a current example of it working and hopefully shearer will be.

 

I meant someone being an assistant to the former manager, and then getting the job full time like that Reed bloke at Charlton

[NG32]

Caretakers never work in the modern game

 

they can, its just quite rare that a good enough manager is available/willing to take on the job. its usually the s*** managers who cant get a job elsewhere who take the job and fail. hiddink is a current example of it working and hopefully shearer will be.

 

Hiddink is hardly your normal caretaker manager tho is he, he is a world class manager in his own right and its only through his Russian contacts that he is doing a fav for Roman.

 

I think when people say "caretaker" usually some number 2 with little or no experience as the top man.

 

Having said that Tony Parks at Blackburn stepped up a couple of times and done well but he never took it on full time.

[Guest toonlass]

Apparantly Quinn has said he is sticking by Sbragia and Curbishley has rubbished the rumours 

[Robster]

Fucking hell. I didnt realise he resigned straight away today

[Dave]

Fucking hell. I didnt realise he resigned straight away today

 

I thought it was pretty dignified of him. Kept them up (despite losing), but realised he's not good enough for them in the long run so stood down.

[ED209]

f***ing hell. I didnt realise he resigned straight away today

 

Yup Mr potato head walked immediately, I think it was palnned. This ellis short bloke will take over, appoint a big name and splash some cash. Unlike ashley he might not fook it up completely!

[Robster]

Fucking hell. I didnt realise he resigned straight away today

 

I thought it was pretty dignified of him. Kept them up (despite losing), but realised he's not good enough for them in the long run so stood down.

Agreed. Decent bloke.