Skirge Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 I for one am very happy Colo and Jonas stayed, okay am not Colo biggest fan but I do have a lot of faith in Jonas and love the effort he puts in, Colo has got better and we need him FACT. Colo needs time to settle but he is still living in a fkn hotel, does not scream wants to be here really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 does this not just go to show the standard of football in the primera league is just average and on a par with the championship? the 4 spanish players we have (including xisco) were outstanding in their league over there, no matter what we say they were all fans favourites in their respective teams, even bloody luque was! No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Sorry, his crossing is usually woeful. I can't think of another footballer who hits so many crosses over the bar or 10 foot over the player/s waiting for the cross. I'm a fan btw but it is a real weakness. http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m4/dec2008/0/9/3F5FAE9B-F817-2CBE-9D9ED86B3BEDB3B1.jpg Hiya! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest geordienorway Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Enrique is our best player by a country mile imo. Has all the attributes to take Capdevila's place in the international side. Yes, his crossing is woeful, but he is 23. Isn't even near his peak yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Sorry, his crossing is usually woeful. I can't think of another footballer who hits so many crosses over the bar or 10 foot over the player/s waiting for the cross. I'm a fan btw but it is a real weakness. You can't have watched much of NUFC over the last few years then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slugsy Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Enrique looks very good at this level and a year in the Championship may do him the power of good, get that confidence level up which I actually think is the only thing stopping him from being a really good LB. Pleased he has stayed much more than Colo or Jonas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayno Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 If he can fix the occasionally sloppy passing he is certianly a top 10 Left Back in the Premier League Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 I don't see how, his concentration isn't bad and he rarely makes position errors. His lack of strength and pace is a problem but he appears to be adapting well and has definetly taken a more cynical approach in his first few championship games. Of course people like you will never give him a chance, you'll have a go at him constantly at the game then argue that every goal we concede is his fault, it's pathetic. Stop listening to Lawrenson and actually watch him, if of course you agree that it's possible to defend well without last ditch tackles. Colocinni makes plenty of positional errors simply due to his indecisive decision making. At times he doesn't know whether to attack the ball or stand off which means he is caught in between two minds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 I don't see how, his concentration isn't bad and he rarely makes position errors. His lack of strength and pace is a problem but he appears to be adapting well and has definetly taken a more cynical approach in his first few championship games. Of course people like you will never give him a chance, you'll have a go at him constantly at the game then argue that every goal we concede is his fault, it's pathetic. Stop listening to Lawrenson and actually watch him, if of course you agree that it's possible to defend well without last ditch tackles. Colocinni makes plenty of positional errors simply due to his indecisive decision making. At times he doesn't know whether to attack the ball or stand off which means he is caught in between two minds. i was just saying this to the gimp, he then gets caught in the wrong place and the forward simply rolls around him and is away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Sorry, his crossing is usually woeful. I can't think of another footballer who hits so many crosses over the bar or 10 foot over the player/s waiting for the cross. I'm a fan btw but it is a real weakness. You can't have watched much of NUFC over the last few years then. I have & attended during the late 70's so I have seen plenty of s***. For a player who has so many strengths his crossing almost defies belief. Jonas' delivery is poor but whereas he may misplace his cross by a few feet Jose usually misses by at least 10 feet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Sorry, his crossing is usually woeful. I can't think of another footballer who hits so many crosses over the bar or 10 foot over the player/s waiting for the cross. I'm a fan btw but it is a real weakness. You can't have watched much of NUFC over the last few years then. I have & attended during the late 70's so I have seen plenty of s***. For a player who has so many strengths his crossing almost defies belief. Jonas' delivery is poor but whereas he may misplace his cross by a few feet Jose usually misses by at least 10 feet. Against that, Enrique's crosses are usually delivered with bad intent, so the ones which he does get right can be almost undefendable. They are the diametric opposite of former players like Milner and Neil Macdonald (remember him?) who floated high accurate crosses which defenders coped with easily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DubblyDubblyDubbly Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Enrique is our best player by a country mile imo. Has all the attributes to take Capdevila's place in the international side. Yes, his crossing is woeful, but he is 23. Isn't even near his peak yet. WTF... he probably started playing football at 7 or 8 years old so he's had 15 years at it. What makes you think he can learn to cross a ball after the age of 23 ? Everyone has strengths and weaknesses, and I don't expect much if any improvement. Beckham did alright and he couldn't tackle, head a ball or dribble it round a corner flag never mind an opposing player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Sorry, his crossing is usually woeful. I can't think of another footballer who hits so many crosses over the bar or 10 foot over the player/s waiting for the cross. I'm a fan btw but it is a real weakness. You can't have watched much of NUFC over the last few years then. I have & attended during the late 70's so I have seen plenty of s***. For a player who has so many strengths his crossing almost defies belief. Jonas' delivery is poor but whereas he may misplace his cross by a few feet Jose usually misses by at least 10 feet. Against that, Enrique's crosses are usually delivered with bad intent, so the ones which he does get right can be almost undefendable. They are the diametric opposite of former players like Milner and Neil Macdonald (remember him?) who floated high accurate crosses which defenders coped with easily. Milner's crossing was better, Macdonald wasn't a player who made that many crosses. You could quote Parkinson, Cartwright and a few others but none of them were anywhere near as good a player yet all of them could cross better. Kenny Wharton's delivery was like Beckham's in comparison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Enrique is our best player by a country mile imo. Has all the attributes to take Capdevila's place in the international side. Yes, his crossing is woeful, but he is 23. Isn't even near his peak yet. WTF... he probably started playing football at 7 or 8 years old so he's had 15 years at it. What makes you think he can learn to cross a ball after the age of 23 ? Everyone has strengths and weaknesses, and I don't expect much if any improvement. Beckham did alright and he couldn't tackle, head a ball or dribble it round a corner flag never mind an opposing player. You think a player reaches his peak at 23? After about 2 years of playing first team football? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Sorry, his crossing is usually woeful. I can't think of another footballer who hits so many crosses over the bar or 10 foot over the player/s waiting for the cross. I'm a fan btw but it is a real weakness. You can't have watched much of NUFC over the last few years then. I have & attended during the late 70's so I have seen plenty of s***. For a player who has so many strengths his crossing almost defies belief. Jonas' delivery is poor but whereas he may misplace his cross by a few feet Jose usually misses by at least 10 feet. We've scored from an Enrique cross before though, which is more than you can say for Jonas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Enrique was brilliant the other day but he did make a few stray passes. He had their right midfielder in his pocket and looked calmer on the ball than anyone else in our team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Sorry, his crossing is usually woeful. I can't think of another footballer who hits so many crosses over the bar or 10 foot over the player/s waiting for the cross. I'm a fan btw but it is a real weakness. You can't have watched much of NUFC over the last few years then. I have & attended during the late 70's so I have seen plenty of s***. For a player who has so many strengths his crossing almost defies belief. Jonas' delivery is poor but whereas he may misplace his cross by a few feet Jose usually misses by at least 10 feet. We've scored from an Enrique cross before though, which is more than you can say for Jonas. Nolan at Palace? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Of all the players I thought might leave, I'm ecstatic we managed to hold onto Jose. He links up with Jonas very well, they seem to have a great understanding, and he's more than solid in defence (usually). A player too good for this league really, and potentially the future Spain number one LB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Sorry, his crossing is usually woeful. I can't think of another footballer who hits so many crosses over the bar or 10 foot over the player/s waiting for the cross. I'm a fan btw but it is a real weakness. You can't have watched much of NUFC over the last few years then. I have & attended during the late 70's so I have seen plenty of s***. For a player who has so many strengths his crossing almost defies belief. Jonas' delivery is poor but whereas he may misplace his cross by a few feet Jose usually misses by at least 10 feet. We've scored from an Enrique cross before though, which is more than you can say for Jonas. Nolan at Palace? Pass more than a cross tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzaA2 Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Best full back in the league. Easily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Sorry, his crossing is usually woeful. I can't think of another footballer who hits so many crosses over the bar or 10 foot over the player/s waiting for the cross. I'm a fan btw but it is a real weakness. You can't have watched much of NUFC over the last few years then. I have & attended during the late 70's so I have seen plenty of s***. For a player who has so many strengths his crossing almost defies belief. Jonas' delivery is poor but whereas he may misplace his cross by a few feet Jose usually misses by at least 10 feet. We've scored from an Enrique cross before though, which is more than you can say for Jonas. Nolan at Palace? That was more like scoring from a Shola dummy tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 If we were uncomfortable about playing Kadar at CB in a league game would it be an acceptable option to use Jose in the middle? He's not the best in the air, but he's fucking strong, pretty big and quick. He also reads the game well. Kadar would be less exposed at full back, and it might be a better way to introduce him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 If we were uncomfortable about playing Kadar at CB in a league game would it be an acceptable option to use Jose in the middle? He's not the best in the air, but he's f***ing strong, pretty big and quick. He also reads the game well. Kadar would be less exposed at full back, and it might be a better way to introduce him. Aces in their places, Enrique is a quality left back and that's where he should stay. Wouldn't even want to consider unsettlin the lad further by putting him somewhere he's not comfortable with or where he's not going to show his best ability (for potential buyers) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 If we were uncomfortable about playing Kadar at CB in a league game would it be an acceptable option to use Jose in the middle? He's not the best in the air, but he's f***ing strong, pretty big and quick. He also reads the game well. Kadar would be less exposed at full back, and it might be a better way to introduce him. Aces in their places, Enrique is a quality left back and that's where he should stay. Wouldn't even want to consider unsettlin the lad further by putting him somewhere he's not comfortable with or where he's not going to show his best ability (for potential buyers) I agree generally, but it might be beneficial to the team in the long run. It's a massive jump to go into a first team at centre back aged only 19. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Wonder what he would be like at centre back? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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