thedudeabides Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 http://www.atsb.gov.au/publications/investigation_reports/2006/AAIR/images/aair200600979_003.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 I seriously dont know why any team would pay him more than £30k a week. He's shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 i am a big fan of Michael, a good friend of his, and I would love to see him get a move away from Newcastle to a bigger club and put his England career back on track." did he really say that??? :dave: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzaA2 Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 i am a big fan of Michael, a good friend of his, and I would love to see him get a move away from Newcastle to a bigger club and put his England career back on track." did he really say that??? :dave: He's had it in for the club since the fans booed him after the England game that time. Owen was annoyed with the fans that day as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 i am a big fan of Michael, a good friend of his, and I would love to see him get a move away from Newcastle to a bigger club and put his England career back on track." did he really say that??? :dave: He's had it in for the club since the fans booed him after the England game that time. Owen was annoyed with the fans that day as well. Havent Liverpool fans been a bit grumbly (few boo's?) at Owen when he has returned to Anfield with NUFC ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 Regardless of whether he's shit / past it / not bothered about anything other than England / the right move away from getting his career back on track, he's surely a talismanic figure of bad in the recent demise of Newcastle - the figurehead of "bad shit" that people, inside and out, point to when talking about Newcastle. For that reason and that reason only, you should be glad to get shot. Personally, I think anyone paying him 60k a week wants their head looking at, but anyone taking him on a "pay as you play" deal is probably taking a gamble worth taking (so long as they're within easy reach of his stable or his mine shaft full of gold, or whatever it is that he goes home to Cheshire to wank himself off over every night) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 i am a big fan of Michael, a good friend of his, and I would love to see him get a move away from Newcastle to a bigger club and put his England career back on track." did he really say that??? :dave: He's had it in for the club since the fans booed him after the England game that time. Owen was annoyed with the fans that day as well. But Newcastle fans applauded him off the pitch when he destroyed us in the 5-1 defeat in December. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Although it's extremely unlikely, I'd honestly like ManU to come in for Owen, and for Owen to regain some form for both club and country in time for the 2010 World Cup. With all due respect, it'd be a shame if England went to the 2010 World Cup with Bent, Defoe, Crouch, Ashton, etc, as the only options to call upon when a goal is desperately needed. Owen could still have something to offer as a sub in those situations. Hence, ManU are the only sort of team I can see him having any kind of success for now. He's too slow to make use of sporadic service from a team like Everton or Villa, he needs to be playing for a team that can essentially carry him for 90 minutes (i.e. be able to play effectively with 10 men) whilst at the same time being able to carve the opposition open at will so that he'll get a few chances in the box. And he needs to be at a club that will bench him more often than not so that he minimises the risk of injury - much like his time at Madrid. He won't fit into Liverpool or Chelsea's systems (or even Man City's for that matter assuming they switch to a 4-3-3), he's wont fit into Arsenal's pass-and-move playing style, he's too much of a luxury for anyone below the top four, and so that leaves only one club that could realistically get the best out of what he is now. Given ManU and Ferguson's successful use of Solskjaer, it's possible that Owen could see a rejuvination of some sorts in that super-sub role. Looking back at his time here, he's been a waste of space bar the few months in midfield, an awful signing in terms of the money spent and the sacrifices made, and a dishonourable, sneaky toerag because of the episode where he and his agents, after 1.5 years of being injured and 15 games during the 2 years since his £17m transfer, decided to thank us for our money and support by whoring him out in order to activate his £9m release clause (how unfortunate for us that everyone stayed well clear). But he's still a former world class striker, and imo it's always a shame for the game itself to see players of that ilk looking finished and dejected long before their time is up. So when he leaves, I'll consider him a bit of a c*** based on his tenure here and the general arrogance he consistently seemed to display in thinking he was too good/big for us, but will wish him well for the future and hope that he regains some form/fitness with whoever lands him. As for us, I hope we learn our lesson from this. Never sign someone like Owen at such high stakes when they not only have a history of injuries and are clearly past their best due to a change in athleticism, but the player himself thinks he's bigger than the club - which he never was. Even when Owen was at his very best, a 17/18 year old speed demon tearing old, slow centrebacks apart, he wasn't better than Andy Cole, Sir Les, or Shearer in his first season here were - their form for us was better than what he showed for Liverpool. So for him to think he was too good for us by the time he had become a shadow of his former self and had just spent the year on Madrid's bench was an insult that should have seen us lose interest immediately. We're a bigger club than he gave us credit for, we've had better strikers in the past, and as soon as he said he was only interested in the top four, we should have called him up privately and told him to go f*** himself because he's not that great. We sold ourselves short by acting like small-fry, like a desperate ex who can't for the life of them see all the fish in the sea, hooked on this one person who doesn't want us, tipping over ourselves and our balance sheet in order to land this "dream signing", when we should have said "meh, we've had better", and moved on to talent that actually wanted to play for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustynrg Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 The fact is that Capello doesn't and never has "fancied" Michael Owen. I might put a very large bet on that he doesn't play in the World Cup at all, however many goals he scores at Everton or whoever is daft enought to take him. If memory serves me right, when he played at Real he scored 4 goals in a Cup game, and he was dropped the next game by Capello. And was either benched or injured forever after. He must have had a very bad day when he heard Capello was going to be Manager of his favourite team in the whole wide world. In fact the only team he has ever been REALLY interested in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 God i f***ing despise Steven Gerrard. Owen and Gerrard are still best mates. I won't repeat what Owen was meant to have called Newcastle fans after Gerrard got booed at St James' after England missed out on Euro 2008. Gerrard seems to have had it in for the club since then for booing him. Gerrard is just the adult version of the kid in PE who's class at everything, and all the teachers royally bum him. He's totally up himself and too blinkered to realise how all the real people can't stand the twat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 I was willing to give him a chance to the very end, more out of desperation and a lack of alternatives than anything. He does have very good natural ability that our other strikers didn't possess and like many I hoped he could help pull us out of a desperate situation. But let's be honest it's got nowt to do with recent events; ever since he arrived the lad has totally taken the piss. It says a lot about him that we've now reached a situation where we're relieved to lose a 29 year old striker with loads of England caps for nothing. He epitomises everything that's wrong with our club in recent times. Vastly overpriced. Vastly overpaid. Past his best. Injury prone. Poor attitude (thinks he's bigger than the club). These could be used to describe various players (and managers) in our recent history, but none moreso than Michael Owen. He is one of the worst things to have happened to this club in recent times. Even before he arrived we weren't good enough for him in his eyes. He was pining for a move to Liverpool, and came on the condition that we put clauses in his contract so he could leg it at the first opportunity at a huge financial loss to the club. And the only reason he didn't leave was because noone wanted him, even at a much reduced price. There were various transfer windows where he undermined the club, staying silent while rumours ran throughout the national press about his departure, before committing himself when he realised noone wanted him. We can only wonder what effect this had on other players in the dressing room, who saw him given the captain's armband and in the first team regardless of form or commitment, while earning two or three times their salaries. His actions ever since he arrived have been thoroughly unprofessional. How many games did we go into without a recognise left back or a right back while Owen was sat on the treatment table commanding the salary of two or three players. There's no doubt he's been a factor in our decline. He'll be very lucky to get a move to someone like Everton. There was a time when only his fitness was in question. Now his form and commitment are too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 I was willing to give him a chance to the very end, more out of desperation and a lack of alternatives than anything. He does have very good natural ability that our other strikers didn't possess and like many I hoped he could help pull us out of a desperate situation. But let's be honest it's got nowt to do with recent events; ever since he arrived the lad has totally taken the piss. It says a lot about him that we've now reached a situation where we're relieved to lose a 29 year old striker with loads of England caps for nothing. He epitomises everything that's wrong with our club in recent times. Vastly overpriced. Vastly overpaid. Past his best. Injury prone. Poor attitude (thinks he's bigger than the club). These could be used to describe various players (and managers) in our recent history, but none moreso than Michael Owen. He is one of the worst things to have happened to this club in recent times. Even before he arrived we weren't good enough for him in his eyes. He was pining for a move to Liverpool, and came on the condition that we put clauses in his contract so he could leg it at the first opportunity at a huge financial loss to the club. And the only reason he didn't leave was because noone wanted him, even at a much reduced price. There were various transfer windows where he undermined the club, staying silent while rumours ran throughout the national press about his departure, before committing himself when he realised noone wanted him. We can only wonder what effect this had on other players in the dressing room, who saw him given the captain's armband and in the first team regardless of form or commitment, while earning two or three times their salaries. His actions ever since he arrived have been thoroughly unprofessional. How many games did we go into without a recognise left back or a right back while Owen was sat on the treatment table commanding the salary of two or three players. There's no doubt he's been a factor in our decline. He'll be very lucky to get a move to someone like Everton. There was a time when only his fitness was in question. Now his form and commitment are too. Good post. Completely agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 I think he will have to have a hell of a good start to the season before he would get an England recall, he is done! Only he cannot see it, will he take a 50% wage cut to go to Everton? not a fkn chance, will Rafa decide to take him back to Pool no fkn way. Had the little c*** signed the new deal we offered him we would be crippled now, coz I bet there would have been no relegation claus in it. Maybe he should just fkn retire and go do his horse thing, its obvious he loves it more than he loves football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Any manager worth his salt will go for Martins before Owen, especially one as shrewd as David Moyes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Any manager worth his salt will go for Martins before Owen, especially one as shrewd as David Moyes. Yes but Owen is available for free and the Martins isn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Any manager worth his salt will go for Martins before Owen, especially one as shrewd as David Moyes. You would think so right. Beware the lure of the English player who can do know wrong unlike all those evil, diving foreigners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Any manager worth his salt will go for Martins before Owen, especially one as shrewd as David Moyes. Yes but Owen is available for free and the Martins isn't. The question is whether Moyes is looking for freebies or looking to take his team to the next level. Owen might appear to be free but sign him up and the chairman isn't getting any other striker for Moyes this summer. So when Owen gets the measles, malaria, typhoid etc and misses all of preseason and then gets his standard knee knock here, ankle knock there and hamstring strain everywhere, and the team is no better off than it was last season because even when he plays he is never match fit, I bet the fans will feel like he is costing them a hell of a lot then. Owen will hold them back if anything and he is only getting older and more pathetic physically. Waste of money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Any manager worth his salt will go for Martins before Owen, especially one as shrewd as David Moyes. You would think so right. Beware the lure of the English player who can do know wrong unlike all those evil, diving foreigners. what's diving got to do with Martins over Owen? Also two of the most high profile foreigners here (Ronaldo, Drogba) go down when an opposing player even breathes on them, they deserve all the stick they get. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Any manager worth his salt will go for Martins before Owen, especially one as shrewd as David Moyes. Yes but Owen is available for free and the Martins isn't. The question is whether Moyes is looking for freebies or looking to take his team to the next level. Owen might appear to be free but sign him up and the chairman isn't getting any other striker for Moyes this summer. So when Owen gets the measles, malaria, typhoid etc and misses all of preseason and then gets his standard knee knock here, ankle knock there and hamstring strain everywhere, and the team is no better off than it was last season because even when he plays he is never match fit, I bet the fans will feel like he is costing them a hell of a lot then. Owen will hold them back if anything and he is only getting older and more pathetic physically. Waste of money. My understanding of Everton is that they don't have a lot of money for transfers. Moyes does a good job on a relatively small budget. If he buys Martins that could be well over half his transfer budget gone. As for Moyes wanting Owen, he supposedly wanted Smith not so long ago so who knows how he thinks? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1878 Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Any manager worth his salt will go for Martins before Owen, especially one as shrewd as David Moyes. Yes but Owen is available for free and the Martins isn't. The question is whether Moyes is looking for freebies or looking to take his team to the next level. Owen might appear to be free but sign him up and the chairman isn't getting any other striker for Moyes this summer. So when Owen gets the measles, malaria, typhoid etc and misses all of preseason and then gets his standard knee knock here, ankle knock there and hamstring strain everywhere, and the team is no better off than it was last season because even when he plays he is never match fit, I bet the fans will feel like he is costing them a hell of a lot then. Owen will hold them back if anything and he is only getting older and more pathetic physically. Waste of money. We're absolutely skint so I don't see us going for players like Martins unless City make a daft offer for Lescott and we cash in. I personally believe the Owen rumour and think he will sign. Not very happy about it, mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Any manager worth his salt will go for Martins before Owen, especially one as shrewd as David Moyes. Yes but Owen is available for free and the Martins isn't. The question is whether Moyes is looking for freebies or looking to take his team to the next level. Owen might appear to be free but sign him up and the chairman isn't getting any other striker for Moyes this summer. So when Owen gets the measles, malaria, typhoid etc and misses all of preseason and then gets his standard knee knock here, ankle knock there and hamstring strain everywhere, and the team is no better off than it was last season because even when he plays he is never match fit, I bet the fans will feel like he is costing them a hell of a lot then. Owen will hold them back if anything and he is only getting older and more pathetic physically. Waste of money. We're absolutely skint so I don't see us going for players like Martins unless City make a daft offer for Lescott and we cash in. I personally believe the Owen rumour and think he will sign. Not very happy about it, mind. Genuine question. How is the new stadium going to be funded? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 owen will do okayish at his next club, which will just serve to highlight how disgracefully bad he was for us in his last 6 months here. before that there were problems with attitude, injuries, having to be carried by others etc but you always thought he still had quality and would deliver a decent return of goals. but in his 1 goal in 15 games run he was about as much use to us as Alan Smith. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 owen will do okayish at his next club, which will just serve to highlight how disgracefully bad he was for us in his last 6 months here. before that there were problems with attitude, injuries, having to be carried by others etc but you always thought he still had quality and would deliver a decent return of goals. but in his 1 goal in 15 games run he was about as much use to us as Alan Smith. Bad runs like that happen. Was just sh*t timing for us. You could say Shearer's 1 goal in open play in 14 games leading up to Gullit's sacking is what lead him to being dropped for the Sunderland game, and Gullit getting sacked. It happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 If I had to say something to Michael Owen, it'd be: http://redsoxchick.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/beckett.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 owen will do okayish at his next club, which will just serve to highlight how disgracefully bad he was for us in his last 6 months here. before that there were problems with attitude, injuries, having to be carried by others etc but you always thought he still had quality and would deliver a decent return of goals. but in his 1 goal in 15 games run he was about as much use to us as Alan Smith. Bad runs like that happen. Was just sh*t timing for us. You could say Shearer's 1 goal in open play in 14 games leading up to Gullit's sacking is what lead him to being dropped for the Sunderland game, and Gullit getting sacked. It happens. not really, because Owen literally has nothing else to his game but scoring, if he is not doing that, he's doing nothing at all. Owen didn't even have a good 30 minute spell during a game in which you thought "he looks on form today". he was literally crap for just about every single minute he was on the field. On the other hand Shearer had a physical presence and teamplay that contributed to the side even if he wasn't scoring. and nice way to twist the stats to make them look similar, but Shearer actually scored 8 in the 15 league games up to the Sunderland match. let's face it, owen was genuinely appalling this season and he was supposed to be one of the players we were counting on. he should've been out the team after Martins and Lovenkrands gave us the best attacking movement and interplay all season vs arsenal, and it was imo a mistake by shearer to announce that Owen would start when he first arrived. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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