Guest guinness_fiend Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 As far as I am concerned, the winner should automatically qualify for next year's tournament. It just feels right to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 As far as I am concerned, the winner should automatically qualify for next year's tournament. It just feels right to me. I'm not sure it does for me, if you win olympic gold it doesn't automatically mean you are in the final next time. And in fact can't think of many sports whereby winning means you automatically qualify for the folowing competition (cue replies to prove me wrong). If for example disaster strikes and a team goes into administration (not so far fetched) loses its managers and all it's best players, would they therefore be in the CL because the club won it the year before? It should be based on league performance the previous season for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 As far as I am concerned, the winner should automatically qualify for next year's tournament. It just feels right to me. same, wasn't happy when they changed the WC tbh - load of shite that when someone wins the heavyweight boxing championship they don't have to fight their way back to be able to defend it - that's the point of winning it in the first place Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 As far as I am concerned, the winner should automatically qualify for next year's tournament. It just feels right to me. same, wasn't happy when they changed the WC tbh - load of s**** that when someone wins the heavyweight boxing championship they don't have to fight their way back to be able to defend it - that's the point of winning it in the first place is it ? i always thought the point was so whoever could say they are the best. i never knew people won titles in order to get qualification for next time round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 As far as I am concerned, the winner should automatically qualify for next year's tournament. It just feels right to me. same, wasn't happy when they changed the WC tbh - load of shite that when someone wins the heavyweight boxing championship they don't have to fight their way back to be able to defend it - that's the point of winning it in the first place Exactly my feelings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 As far as I am concerned, the winner should automatically qualify for next year's tournament. It just feels right to me. same, wasn't happy when they changed the WC tbh - load of s**** that when someone wins the heavyweight boxing championship they don't have to fight their way back to be able to defend it - that's the point of winning it in the first place is it ? i always thought the point was so whoever could say they are the best. i never knew people won titles in order to get qualification for next time round. well it's to get to the top, to be the best is what i mean...it should be up to other teams (or boxers using the example) to dethrone you not for you to have to start at the beginning again to prove yourself Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 As far as I am concerned, the winner should automatically qualify for next year's tournament. It just feels right to me. same, wasn't happy when they changed the WC tbh - load of s**** that when someone wins the heavyweight boxing championship they don't have to fight their way back to be able to defend it - that's the point of winning it in the first place is it ? i always thought the point was so whoever could say they are the best. i never knew people won titles in order to get qualification for next time round. well it's to get to the top, to be the best is what i mean...it should be up to other teams (or boxers using the example) to dethrone you not for you to have to start at the beginning again to prove yourself If you were the best, you'd have no trouble qualifying through the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 If you were the best, you'd have no trouble qualifying through the league. agree, again same principle if you're the best boxer you'd have no problem beating 5 other fighters for the right to defend your title would you? there should be some fucking prestige and status that comes with winning the WC and honestly that should include the automatic right to defend it, it's as simple as that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 is it ? i always thought the point was so whoever could say they are the best. i never knew people won titles in order to get qualification for next time round. Thats not happening though is it ? Already press and media europe and here are trying to say Chelsea only won it due to luck. Which is utter crap. Even "Barcelona are real champions" which is even more ridiculous. Same with qualification. Defending champions are a draw whoever they are. Can you beat reigning champs ? No reigning champs, less appeal. But this is all Liverpools fault. After their demands they should qualify as holders when finishing 5th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antz1uk Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 uefa possibly willing to change rule http://t.co/SmzjDq9V Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 If defending the trophy is so important, how come none of the UEFA Cup/Europa League winners who've subsequently qualified for the Champions League have dropped out of the latter to defend the former? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morpeth mag Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Don't recall us getting the chance to defend our Inter Toto, Anglo Italian or Texaco cups. Smell a rat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Don't recall us getting the chance to defend our Inter Toto, Anglo Italian or Texaco cups. Smell a rat. we won the texaco cup 2 years off the trot so we did defend it once. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 I can get that Tottenham are disappointed. Maybe they should point their complaints at Everton FC...? FYP. The FA/UEFA in 2005 should've just stuck to the precedent that was set in 2000 when Real Madrid won and finished 5th, where Zaragoza got knocked down to the UEFA Cup. That was the Spanish FA's decision. Each country was responsible for nominating its representatives in CL competition, there was no specific rule on it and if we followed every precedent set by the Spanish authorities re: Real Madrid then our game would be in a very sorry state. The FA did the right thing and chose us as the 4th placed team over the whole season. Liverpool refused to accept that, spat their dummy out and lobbied UEFA for special dispensation. This eventually forced the whole rules of the competition to be changed so that CL winners are guaranteed a spot. Quite how that's Everton's fault is beyond me. Absolutely - which is why I pointed the finger of blame at Liverpool rather than Everton in that instance. At the time, the FA nominated teams and didn't have the little asterisk with the fine print that sees Chelsea climbing over Spuds to get into next year's competition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Lol Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 I think the issue is more they can't/won't pay his massive wages unless he's a free He won't be free but there are ways to get around his wages as Ade wants the high wages to maintain his charitable work in Togo, Spurs could make charitable donations and preserve the wage structure. At least City and Spurs are still talking about a deal. Being said in Amsterdam that Ajax and Spurs have now agreed a fee for Vertonghen. Levy was in Hamburg yesterday taking to Leandro's agent (again). Most unlike Spurs, not leaving till the last day of the window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 I love how Martin Jol knows EVERYTHING. Every fucking step Daniel Levy goes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 I love how Martin Jol knows EVERYTHING. Every fucking step Daniel Levy goes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 What was said in Amsterdam? I want to know every last word. Crayzhee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 What was said in Amsterdam? I want to know every last word. Someone said they saw a mouse. Someone else said 'where? where on the stair?' The first person then replied, 'there on the stair, right there. A little mouse with cloggs on.' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest elbee909 Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Could at least tell us about Fulham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 "Being said in Amsterdam" Fucking ears everywhere, proper ITKs Spurs like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Jol is the internet forum equivalent of the local nutter every town/city has that walks around town talking to himself. 'Yeah spurs are interested in so and so, oh right, yeah, ah good stuff, don't let them stare at you in the eyes, don't worry they aren't looking at you, they have gone now, so what else you heard? ah that's good always liked him, yeah we are in talks apparently, want some food, no not yet, maybe later, yeah apparently Levy flew to Germany yesterday, know how the U13s are going, apparently new towels in the training ground, tea still being served by Doris, yeah good, they're looking at me aren't they?' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 "itk's are all agreed" - like nails down a blackboard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 golfmag for me, like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Crispy pancakes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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