Guest Stephen927 Posted August 9, 2009 Share Posted August 9, 2009 Carroll is utter dross and league 1 would be about his level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest n4e Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Carroll is utter dross and league 1 would be about his level. To be fair it wasn't long ago when everyone was slating him and saying he wasn't good enough. He'll always get given more of a chance for being young and local and people seem not to care about his attitude and violence problems that they would if it was someone else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 What i like about Carroll is that he tries to shoot when he gets the opportunity and easily one of the best headers at the club, in defence and attack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 What i like about Carroll is that he tries to shoot when he gets the opportunity and easily one of the best headers at the club, in defence and attack. Doesn't shoot enough for me. Had a great opportunity to pull the trigger with his right foot on Saturday and checked back instead. Shouldn't be having to do that imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 What i like about Carroll is that he tries to shoot when he gets the opportunity and easily one of the best headers at the club, in defence and attack. Doesn't shoot enough for me. Had a great opportunity to pull the trigger with his right foot on Saturday and checked back instead. Shouldn't be having to do that imo. Should have followed Duff's example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 What i like about Carroll is that he tries to shoot when he gets the opportunity and easily one of the best headers at the club, in defence and attack. Doesn't shoot enough for me. Had a great opportunity to pull the trigger with his right foot on Saturday and checked back instead. Shouldn't be having to do that imo. Should have followed Duff's example. I agree. Duff's a good example of someone who isn't scared to use his wrong foot. What is a pity is that both his feet are largely useless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 I know a lad who used to play for our reserves, who knows Andy Carroll well, and is a member of this forum. Well, according to my mate Chris, Andy Carroll wants to know who Lee Stewart is :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Chris Shanks? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen927 Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 What i like about Carroll is that he tries to shoot when he gets the opportunity and easily one of the best headers at the club, in defence and attack. Doesn't shoot enough for me. Had a great opportunity to pull the trigger with his right foot on Saturday and checked back instead. Shouldn't be having to do that imo. I said that yesterday only to be told he is left footed, mustn't be too confident with his right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 I'm sure Lee Stewart wrote on Andy Carroll's wall the other day. He mentioned about being from Bensham but not a Newcastle fan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Clapton Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 A few years back Keegan converted Steve Howey from a mediocre striker to an England-calibre centre half. In the long term, that might be the best plan for Carroll. He's unlikely ever to be much more than a journeyman bruiser/plank type striker in the tradition of Billy Whitehurst, Tony Cunningham, George Reilly etc. Not pacy enough, poor touch, no finesse, doesn't seem like the most quick-thinking. But with his aerial ability, size, strength and generally belligerent attitude, I reckon he could be developed into a dominating - even intimidating - center half. A Materazzi type player maybe (or at worst a McNamee type) - sort of the opposite of Coloccini. He'd still score goals, from headers at corners and free kicks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 A few years back Keegan converted Steve Howey from a mediocre striker to an England-calibre centre half. In the long term, that might be the best plan for Carroll. He's unlikely ever to be much more than a journeyman bruiser/plank type striker in the tradition of Billy Whitehurst, Tony Cunningham, George Reilly etc. Not pacy enough, poor touch, no finesse, doesn't seem like the most quick-thinking. But with his aerial ability, size, strength and generally belligerent attitude, I reckon he could be developed into a dominating - even intimidating - center half. A Materazzi type player maybe (or at worst a McNamee type) - sort of the opposite of Coloccini. He'd still score goals, from headers at corners and free kicks. He's played there before in the lesser levels of the club. Wouldn't be against it unless it means shola gets more games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 What I liked about Carroll in last Saturday's match was his dropping into midfield and being able to make play for us decently. I think he is a better player with the ball than most give him credit for, because he obviously possesses one great strength above all others. We need to find a striker to pair him with and play to their combined strengths and drop Ameobi sharpish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Walking in a waddle wonde Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Wor Nile? Lua Lua? Vučkić or even Ngo Baheng would do a better job than Shola. (I know we know this just hoping CH reads this) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 A few years back Keegan converted Steve Howey from a mediocre striker to an England-calibre centre half. In the long term, that might be the best plan for Carroll. He's unlikely ever to be much more than a journeyman bruiser/plank type striker in the tradition of Billy Whitehurst, Tony Cunningham, George Reilly etc. Not pacy enough, poor touch, no finesse, doesn't seem like the most quick-thinking. But with his aerial ability, size, strength and generally belligerent attitude, I reckon he could be developed into a dominating - even intimidating - center half. A Materazzi type player maybe (or at worst a McNamee type) - sort of the opposite of Coloccini. He'd still score goals, from headers at corners and free kicks. it's a fair call, but it generally assumes that any footballer with a bit of presence can play in defence. Defending is an art in itself, you need to be the most intelligent player on the park to play centre-half (effectively), which is one of the reasons so many of them end up captaining. Pace is also becoming an absolute must for central defenders in the modern game, Carroll has none. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhaircut Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Carroll is far quicker than he's given credit for. He chased his own flick on on Saturday and outpaced Zuiverloon. Still don't fancy him as a centre half like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchie Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Made his England Under-21 debut tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Made his England Under-21 debut tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alan Shearer 9 Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 He was putting the effort in vs WBA but he was in midefield and all sorts winning the ball when we needed him in the box! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 If Shearer had started him over Ameobi at Stoke we'd still be in the Premier League. Him and Ranger for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alan Shearer 9 Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Shola was pretty poor but he played his part in the goal setting up Nolan to lay off to Duff. Hopefully he'll do better against even worse teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 I daresay Carroll's performance on Saturday was akin to Shearer circa 02-04 sorta time. Coming deep and collecting the ball, flicking balls on, being a general big nuisance. What i'd give to have Big Al tutoring him this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 Nah, Shearer rarely did the donkey work as far back as 2002. Shearer 04-06 would probably be more accurate. The problems when coaching Carroll to be a Shearer type players would be a poor first touch and no eye for clinical positioning. He'll do a job this season but I'm not expecting a huge amount from him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Didn't sound nearly as dangerous after he went off. Shola more effective without the shackles of being the target man? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Nah, Shearer rarely did the donkey work as far back as 2002. Shearer 04-06 would probably be more accurate. The problems when coaching Carroll to be a Shearer type players would be a poor first touch and no eye for clinical positioning. He'll do a job this season but I'm not expecting a huge amount from him. Think thats one of the few things he has going for him to be fair. Good in the air, decent first touch and links up the play, just needs to learn to drive forward and shoot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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