Matt Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Stumbling block will be wages, not transfer fees. You get the feeling Liverpool are so desperate to get rid that the 'reported' fee would be more than what actually would change hands. Liverpool are ripe for picking. Fair enough if people don't think he's up to the job but this idea that "Oh, he shunned us for money, may he never return!" is nonsense. He was offered a huge amount of money and clearly put under some pressure to do the deal for the good of the club. Anyone who believes the official account of events as verbatim is an absolute moron. My concerns would be less about him as a footballer but more Tooj's point about his motivation. Maybe Pardew thinks he could get firing again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Wages will be fine, our top whack is more than enough for him, he knows he's not worth what he's on currently and that he'd ave to take a pay cut ti come back. IMO he'd do just about anything to come back, pay cut included. Anyone who thinks he'd turn us down on £50kpw after the disaster the last year has been is demented. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Wages will be fine, our top whack is more than enough for him, he knows he's not worth what he's on currently and that he'd ave to take a pay cut ti come back. IMO he'd do just about anything to come back, pay cut included. Anyone who thinks he'd turn us down on £50kpw after the disaster the last year has been is demented. I don't know what he's on at Liverpool (press reports are often inflated) but there's no way he's give up 4.5 years of £30k a week- so around £7m gross- without some kind of agreement in place. Liverpool could end up getting nothing back for him once they've settled his contract. We know this, which is why we would push the wages down, knowing the equalising amount would at worse be shares between clubs as a fee to the player, at best covered by the selling club. Another shit year at LFC and they will not be able to shift him at all because of the need to pay out his contract as his stock diminishes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 He was on £40k here was he not, sure that was the wage on the new contract he signed and I think it was doubled by Liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Said it before but IMO Ba off Carroll could be... For all Pardew's stuff about significantly changing the way we play, we've still gone with Ba alongside a traditional centre-forward pretty much all season, and had a lot of success that way. Then there's the question of our threat from set pieces - how many goals have we scored from corners this season? Just been looking at some stats that say we've had 98 so far this season in the Premier League alone. Nobody will convince me there's a chance of this happening though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 conflcited, while common sense and vindictivness is saying let him rot at Liverpool theres a bit of me that would love for him to come back even just for how bad a deal overall it would have been for liverpool Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Ba has good pace and movement. Carroll is no gamble at £10m. Can't agree with you about Ba. He's strong physically and technically, but he's not the most mobile of strikers. That goes with his physique. Eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 skydovaston Andy Carroll's agent, Mark Curtis, tells me there is 'no truth whatsoever' in reports linking the player with a move back to Newcastle. about 1 hour ago skydovaston Carroll earns £60,000 a week at Anfield and is due a loyalty bonus in February. 31 minutes ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesPaul Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 skydovaston Carroll earns £60,000 a week at Anfield and is due a loyalty bonus in February. 31 minutes ago Probably why he won't leave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 skydovaston Carroll earns £60,000 a week at Anfield and is due a loyalty bonus in February. 31 minutes ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 A six figure sum he claims. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 A six figure sum he claims. Didnt he get £100k before xmas too? How many loyalty bonuses do they think he gets a year? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliGupter Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Would love to see him back tbh. Should never have left and I firmly believe playing for Newcastle would give him another 30% to his game. 30% of 0 is still 0. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Well, no, it's not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Out of curiosity, I wonder if they still owe us the remaining £5m which means we would only have to pay £5m. That would be funny!! And then there is the sell-on fee! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliGupter Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Well, no, it's not. You almost made me doubt myself there, but yes it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Lambias "no contact with Liverpool over Carroll" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 steve wraith @stevewraith Andy Carroll will not be coming to #Nufc folks just heard from him. Retweet #Nufc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoranBadlund Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Could you believe this bullshit about Carroll coming back in Februari last year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Geordiesned Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 David Craig saying transfer talk is disrespectful to Dalglish!! I couldn't give a flying fuck about the sour faced twat! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Arteta Olsson Fans @MikelArteta08 46m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open The FA have issued a new directive. Any Liverpool player passing the ball to Andy Carroll will be booked for time wasting. #lfc #nufc #mufc Retweeted 94 times Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Arteta Olsson Fans @MikelArteta08 46m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open The FA have issued a new directive. Any Liverpool player passing the ball to Andy Carroll will be booked for time wasting. #lfc #nufc #mufc Retweeted 94 times Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Loyalty Bonus after 12 months Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 David Craig saying transfer talk is disrespectful to Dalglish!! I couldn't give a flying fuck about the sour faced twat! Well why don't you inform your colleagues at sky sports to stop broadcasting the drivel spouting from good ole arry's asymmetric gob! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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