toontownman Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 I love the idea that Liverpool hold any kind of power in this situation. We could take him or leave him, who cares. No chance we'll get the raw end of the deal. exactly, we have other players we can get, and unlike the original move Carroll will demand this one is pushed through from the start imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Wonder if we make any more money back from the supposed sell on clause thats in the contract Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 I love the idea that Liverpool hold any kind of power in this situation. We could take him or leave him, who cares. No chance we'll get the raw end of the deal. they've put themselves in a very awkward position through sheer idiocy, the fact its become well known they want rid of Carroll dramatically weakens their bargaining position and no doubt leaves Carroll rather annoyed at not even being given a chance. They've basically destroyed their own chances of coming out of this whole transfer (going back to the 35m) with any shred of credibility or dignity left Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 What did Rodgers say exactly? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 its not what he said so much as what he didn't say, when even rumours about Suarez leaving were doing the rounds he was out quickly to slap them down. When the Carroll to Milan rumours came about he wasn't nearly as forceful in responding to them and even said he could maybe go on loan. Now thats not exactly the greatest backing anyones ever received Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Aha I see. Yeah, what a div. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyeyzzon Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Missed the fun of this. Much appreciated, timezone. Anyway, when Carroll left for 35m, I always had this strange feeling that that wan't the last of him in a Newcastle shirt. I felt that, whether or not he'd succeed in Liverpool, he'd come home the moment we're built up to be one hell of a team again. Now that we seem to be on the up, I'd be happy to see this push through. It ticks all boxes for me: we'd get another young player in, we'll get depth in strikers, we'll get to put on a smug grin on them bin dippers on every game against them, and we'll get a Geordie up front during a bright time for the club. Carroll's been in good form over the past few months as well, and this move would probably be what it takes to get thim to kick on. A win-win for both parties imo, and the only ones I can see not benefiting from such a move would be Loserfool. Though it's hard to think of reasons why we wouldn't want it to be that way, wouldn't it? So, if it happens, get in, and if it doesn't, I'd still have faith that we'd eventually get our striking depth sorted out with the scouting we have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Nobody suggested a cheeky bid for Enrique as well? We still need a fullback and he wanted to be playing for a top six club, after all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 LiverpoolScout @LiverpoolScout The only way I see Carroll moving back to Newcastle is in a deal with cash (£10m) + Yohan Cabaye, Demba Ba or Hatem Ben Arfa. No, really, he's serious. He then goes on to suggest that Ben Arfa would be back up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Missed the fun of this. Much appreciated, timezone. Anyway, when Carroll left for 35m, I always had this strange feeling that that wan't the last of him in a Newcastle shirt. I felt that, whether or not he'd succeed in Liverpool, he'd come home the moment we're built up to be one hell of a team again. Now that we seem to be on the up, I'd be happy to see this push through. It ticks all boxes for me: we'd get another young player in, we'll get depth in strikers, we'll get to put on a smug grin on them bin dippers on every game against them, and we'll get a Geordie up front during a bright time for the club. Carroll's been in good form over the past few months as well, and this move would probably be what it takes to get thim to kick on. A win-win for both parties imo, and the only ones I can see not benefiting from such a move would be Loserfool. Though it's hard to think of reasons why we wouldn't want it to be that way, wouldn't it? So, if it happens, get in, and if it doesn't, I'd still have faith that we'd eventually get our striking depth sorted out with the scouting we have. I assume you are only referring to us and Carroll as a huge loss on a player is hardly a win for the dippers. Not that I care what so ever On a serious note, they will only deal with us if they get a significant chunk of the money back, there is no way we will go higher than £10-12M IMO which on its own is hillarious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 LiverpoolScout @LiverpoolScout The only way I see Carroll moving back to Newcastle is in a deal with cash (£10m) + Yohan Cabaye, Demba Ba or Hatem Ben Arfa. No, really, he's serious. He then goes on to suggest that Ben Arfa would be back up. Any one of those three would be Liverpools best player by quite a distance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Realist Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Missed the fun of this. Much appreciated, timezone. Anyway, when Carroll left for 35m, I always had this strange feeling that that wan't the last of him in a Newcastle shirt. I felt that, whether or not he'd succeed in Liverpool, he'd come home the moment we're built up to be one hell of a team again. Now that we seem to be on the up, I'd be happy to see this push through. It ticks all boxes for me: we'd get another young player in, we'll get depth in strikers, we'll get to put on a smug grin on them bin dippers on every game against them, and we'll get a Geordie up front during a bright time for the club. Carroll's been in good form over the past few months as well, and this move would probably be what it takes to get thim to kick on. A win-win for both parties imo, and the only ones I can see not benefiting from such a move would be Loserfool. Though it's hard to think of reasons why we wouldn't want it to be that way, wouldn't it? So, if it happens, get in, and if it doesn't, I'd still have faith that we'd eventually get our striking depth sorted out with the scouting we have. I assume you are only referring to us and Carroll as a huge loss on a player is hardly a win for the dippers. Not that I care what so ever On a serious note, they will only deal with us if they get a significant chunk of the money back, there is no way we will go higher than £10-12M IMO which on its own is hillarious. Exactly. Even 15m ... think about it - end of the day that means LFC gave us 20m for the privilege of rehabbing, training, paying and playing one of our players for 18 months then returning him, essentially setting some kind of fool record for loan fee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Don't want him back, he represents the opposite of what we are trying to build both in terms of character and style of play. Yes he doesn't have Shola's rapist touch but technically he is far inferior than the likes of HBA, Cabaye, Cisse and Ba. Just let him lie in the grave he dug himself Why aren't we trying to build a balanced squad? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Colossus Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2012/07/16/andy-carroll-wants-to-return-to-newcastle-united-72703-31401563/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesPaul Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 This just keeps getting worse from a Liverpool point of view Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Think this is a goer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Carroll: "I'm a Geordie, get me out of here." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Newcastle’s initial offer, which was rejected, was actually closer to £13million despite reports of a lower offer. Could spend that money so much better.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ploppy43 Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 I can see this happening by the end of the month Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=295280.msg10599015#msg10599015 He may just be testing Andys commitment and desire, something that was highly questionable for large chinks of last season. At it again! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyeyzzon Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2012/07/16/andy-carroll-wants-to-return-to-newcastle-united-72703-31401563/ Could use a thread title change now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Think Andy would be a perfect foil for both Cisse and Ba. Andy will tussle with the defenders and win the aerial battle, for Cisse to run in behind, and Ba to drop deeper into midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 To be frank, I quite liked the look of Carroll in the Euros. Looked pretty composed and effective on his role. There's still a player in there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=295280.msg10599015#msg10599015 He may just be testing Andys commitment and desire, something that was highly questionable for large chinks of last season. At it again! Reading through some of the posts they are getting stuck into everyone @ L.f.c atm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Fuck it, I want him back! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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