Anderson Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Alan Shearer: Andy Carroll will be a big hit if Newcastle sign him The Sun Go home for good Shearer: Andy will be a smash hit if he returns to his beloved Toon ALAN SHEARER believes Andy Carroll would be a smash hit if he moved back to Newcastle. Shearer, a Toon legend in the No 9 shirt, was also briefly Carroll’s manager at St James’ Park. And the former England skipper, 41, insists there would be no shame in Carroll donning the famous black and white shirt again. Carroll was sold to Liverpool by Newcastle for £35million 18 months ago but new Reds boss Brendan Rodgers does not see the Three Lions forward as part of his future plans at Anfield. The 23-year-old, though, proved at the Euro 2012 finals that he still has the ability to scare the life out of defenders with his stunning header in the 3-2 Group D victory over Sweden. Newcastle have tried to get Carroll on a loan deal with a view to a permanent move. But that was rejected as “derisory” with Toon owner Mike Ashley wanting the Reds to pay half the player’s wages. Shearer, though, thinks returning to Tyneside might be Carroll’s best option to get his career firing on all cylinders again. Shearer said: “How many clubs are there where Andy can realistically go? “With respect to the lower half of the Premier League, he is a better player than that. “Andy is an England centre-forward and I wouldn’t say he has been a flop at Liverpool by any means. “Yes, it took him a bit of time to settle there but he finished the season strongly and considering he only started one game at the Euros, I thought he did well. “Make no mistake, he is a very good footballer. “I can fully understand why Newcastle are in for him and I think it would be a great move. “When he was there before he benefited from the fact that the team was always working to get him the ball — and he thrived on that. “That hasn’t always been the case at Liverpool and perhaps at times he suffered. “But don’t think you just have to play long-ball if Andy’s in the team. “He doesn’t have to have everything arrowed towards his head. He can play and he is comfortable with the ball at his feet. “There is an old saying that you should never go back but, in Andy’s case, I don’t think it would be a mistake at all. “He was hero-worshipped by the crowd first time around and they would warm to him again. “Andy loved playing there and whatever the fans felt about him leaving to join Liverpool, I’m sure he would win them over quickly.” Shearer realises that it will be difficult for Carroll to accept his Liverpool career is over, even if former Swansea chief Rodgers spells it out to him. He added: “It hurts any player when you realise a club doesn’t want you anymore but that’s football and you have to get on with it. “When Ruud Gullit was manager at Newcastle I realised I would have to leave if he didn’t. “As it turned out he got sacked and, luckily, I was able to stay. But I was under no illusions about what the outcome would be if he had kept his job. “Andy will realise that you can’t fight it if the manager has plans that don’t include you. It is better to go and start again. “Brendan Rodgers wants to build his own team and he is entitled to do that. “Andy wasn’t his signing and it’s the manager’s call whether he wants to incorporate him into his own system or not. “The difficulty for Andy is that Liverpool is a top, top club and it will be hard for him to go. “Whatever the problems the club has had, it is still one of the big names in world football with great history and tradition. “Apart from the likes of Manchester United and now possibly Manchester City, there aren’t many bigger in England.” There has been some interest in Gateshead-born Carroll from abroad in the shape of AC Milan, who were looking at a possible loan move themselves. But Shearer does not believe a switch to a foreign land would suit the big striker. He said: “I think Andy would be better off staying here. “For me, his game is ideally suited to the Premier League.” Spain’s triumph at the Euros has prompted a debate about whether the old-fashioned striker has had his day because they won without using a recognised frontman. Shearer, though, is not having it that the out-and-out goalscorer is about to go the way of the Dodo. He added: “Spain are unique, they played in a way we’ve not really seen before. “But that isn’t a style for everybody and they had plenty of strikers on the bench who they were prepared to bring on. “Strikers are still a valuable commodity and Andy is one of the best. I’m a big fan and always have been. “I think he is going to end up leaving but I’m sure he will be better and stronger for the experiences he’s had. He’s still a young lad with a great future ahead of him.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Probably going against the majority here but would like to see him playing in black and white again, one goal and all would be forgotten, even that pathetic dive. There's a poll at the top of each page which might give you a clue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandamninator Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Don't we have a 25% sell on fee? So £20mil would become £15mil? I'm sure it would be written into the contract that we couldn't benefit from the clause in that way Think it's 25% of any profit they make. So if they got £45m we would get £2.5m. If they got £35m or less we would get fuck all Can we get this pinned to the top of the forum? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toondave Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Don't we have a 25% sell on fee? So £20mil would become £15mil? I'm sure it would be written into the contract that we couldn't benefit from the clause in that way Think it's 25% of any profit they make. So if they got £45m we would get £2.5m. If they got £35m or less we would get f*** all Can we get this pinned to the top of the forum? Why on earth would there be a clause for 25% of profit, how much did they think liverpool were going to sell him for This from the same management team that claimed he was worth fuck all. It'll be 25% of any sale Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Don't we have a 25% sell on fee? So £20mil would become £15mil? I'm sure it would be written into the contract that we couldn't benefit from the clause in that way Think it's 25% of any profit they make. So if they got £45m we would get £2.5m. If they got £35m or less we would get f*** all Can we get this pinned to the top of the forum? Why on earth would there be a clause for 25% of profit, how much did they think liverpool were going to sell him for This from the same management team that claimed he was worth f*** all. It'll be 25% of any sale Why on earth would there be a clause for 25% of any sale? Liverpool were already giving you 35M for Carroll . 25% of profit would be considerably more likely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VegasToon Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Don't we have a 25% sell on fee? So £20mil would become £15mil? I'm sure it would be written into the contract that we couldn't benefit from the clause in that way Think it's 25% of any profit they make. So if they got £45m we would get £2.5m. If they got £35m or less we would get f*** all Can we get this pinned to the top of the forum? Why on earth would there be a clause for 25% of profit, how much did they think liverpool were going to sell him for This from the same management team that claimed he was worth f*** all. It'll be 25% of any sale Why on earth would there be a clause for 25% of any sale? Liverpool were already giving you 35M for Carroll . 25% of profit would be considerably more likely. Do you know who owns us? http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/avs/avatar_9251_1328708376.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Shearer showing once again why he didn't crack it at management in his first attempt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Five Live still leading strongly with this story and the expectation that we'll be back with a better offer imminently. I know the days are gone when the BBC were massively reliable but I find it strange just how certain they appear to be compared to Sky etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Lets see how this pans out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Five Live still leading strongly with this story and the expectation that we'll be back with a better offer imminently. I know the days are gone when the BBC were massively reliable but I find it strange just how certain they appear to be compared to Sky etc. I generally think that Sky need to fill airtime on SSN so they jump over every little thing no matter how ridiculous whereas the BBC can be a bit more choosy with their stories, only reporting when they have something solid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 The Journal are saying that Liverpool want £20m. They won't get any takers for that sort of price. It is way over what most clubs other than the top few can afford and none of them have shown any interest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 20 million and their manager has already said he is not part of his plans Its not very good good business sense, Alan Sugar would be doing his nut! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 I think Liverpool bought him at the wrong time and are now selling him at the wrong time. But IMO our money would be better spent elsewhere. It's only a bargain if you want it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Pardew quotes on it: Andy Carroll deal is in the hands of Mike Ashley by Lee Ryder, Evening Chronicle ALAN PARDEW admits he is hoping to add Andy Carroll to his Europa League-bound Magpies – but says that the process is now very much in the hands of United owner Mike Ashley and the Liverpool board. Pardew has made it clear to his own board that he would welcome the return of the big Geordie striker, now it appears to be down to whether the American-owned Kop club are prepared to cut their losses and move on. And, after an initial offer to take Carroll on loan was turned down, United seem prepared to go back in again for the player they sold for £35m in January 2011. Liverpool are trying to prevent themselves taking a major hit, but Newcastle’s only offer so far is thought to be around the £13m mark. Carroll was not part of the Liverpool squad that headed to North America yesterday afternoon as he still has an arranged week off after his Euro 2012 commitments. And it remains to be seen if he will join up with his team-mates. Pardew – who has already seen a move for Luuk de Jong of FC Twente fall through this summer – told the Chronicle: “That whole process is a little bit more involved with the chairman and the board at Liverpool. “We’ve got a great team here, a great squad, and if Andy Carroll comes it’ll only add to us.” Quick Vote Do you want Andy Carroll to return to Newcastle? Yes 79.1% No 20.9% Ashley is thought to be keen on bringing Carroll back and United fans have already been discussing just what a great coup it would be if he was reintroduced to the squad at less than half-price. As revealed in the Chronicle yesterday, Carroll has made it clear he doesn’t want to kick his heels at Anfield, where he isn’t wanted by new Kop boss Brendan Rodgers. And his first choice would be a move back to Tyneside. Pardew – who guided his side to a 1-0 win over Claudio Ranieri’s Monaco in a pre-season friendly in Germany last night – went on: “It’s simple, really. Sometimes transfers are done at corporate level. “I’m slightly detached from that. It’ll be what it’ll be.” But the LMA and Premier League manager of the year knows that the key to any deal is money – for both an eventual transfer fee and the player’s wages, which may have to be supplemented by the Merseysiders. He went on: “It’s been said that he’s available, and if we’re involved then we’ll be involved because of the figures, not anything else, because we know he’s good enough. I’m slightly detached from it.” Read More http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2012/07/17/andy-carroll-deal-is-in-the-hands-of-mike-ashley-72703-31408911/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter#ixzz20s6V2jJ2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Doesn't sound like he's jumping with joy at the prospect of Andy rejoining.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Doesn't sound like he's jumping with joy at the prospect of Andy rejoining.. to keep the price down! it's basic business dude Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Doesn't sound like he's jumping with joy at the prospect of Andy rejoining.. Doesn't sound like he knew/knows anything about it either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Doesn't sound like he's jumping with joy at the prospect of Andy rejoining.. Doesn't sound like he knew/knows anything about it either. I'm pretty sure he would have known about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Hmm, not sure what to make of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Doesn't sound like he's jumping with joy at the prospect of Andy rejoining.. Doesn't sound like he knew/knows anything about it either. I'm pretty sure he would have known about it. Probably after the decision had already been made. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Is anyone actually insinuating that we are targeting Carroll because the owner wants him, and is going over the manager's head? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Is anyone actually insinuating that we are targeting Carroll because the owner wants him, and is going over the manager's head? Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 I bet its mostly about Ashley wanting to show everyone what a great deal we did. "Look, look! I sold him for 35 and 1½ year later I bought him for 15! I'm awesome! Look, look!" Told ya Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Is anyone actually insinuating that we are targeting Carroll because the owner wants him, and is going over the manager's head? Pardew. We don't know everything he said. His quotes in context are basically saying that he's comfortable having him back, but it needs to be a deal we can afford (fee & wages), and all he can do as manager is sit and wait to see what transpires. Don't really see any conspiracy anywhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 There's nothing strange in those quotes. I'd expect him to be "detached" from every deal as that's how things are for most football managers these days anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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