Stottie Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 No-one will match Carroll's current wages so he's in a powerful position regarding his future. If Liverpool won't accept a lower transfer fee, he'll cost them four mill a year sitting on the bench losing even more value. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 He wasn't worth £20mil 18 months ago, he's worth way less now. I can't see Ashley paying anything over £12mil, which i'm fully supportive of. We need Debuchy, Douglas, Anita. In that order. I think a striker is just as important as those three, I would put that need ahead of Anita easily arguably more important that Debuchy. My order would be Douglas (or a.n. other quality CB), new striker (my preferance for a young development one, who can play the odd game now), Debuchy (I would have prefered Clyne personally, not that he's a better player but I think we would have gotten better value there) and then Anita (if money left in pot, would be a nice signing but luxury not a necessity). This assumes of course we lose no one else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen927 Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Doubt any club will pay £20m, well worth playing the waiting game on this one. Wouldn't be surprised actually to see Liverpool allow him to go on loan, just not to us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Paddy Power TAXI FOR CARROLL! Hit LIKE if you think Andy Carroll has been a failure at Liverpool! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 With the sale of best and release of loven we are unquestionably a striker light. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 With the sale of best and release of loven we are unquestionably a striker light. Don't think you'll find anyone disagreeing with that... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 The thought of only having shola available upfront for a whole month! Senegal aren't going to qualify so it's all good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Cisse-8m, better finisher, better with the ball at his feet and does a lot more off the ball. No way carrolls worth 20m, or even near that, we should look for other options IMO, Rodgers can fuck off... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Cisse-8m, better finisher, better with the ball at his feet and does a lot more off the ball. No way carrolls worth 20m, or even near that, we should look for other options IMO, Rodgers can fuck off... Cisse was such a freak you can't use that as an example. The chances of finding someone so complete as a striker for so cheap are unbelievably slim. That said, Carroll isn't worth near 20m regardless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 As if Carroll's going to become our record signing man. The club has shown exactly what they can do with £20 million and I would hate to see them blow that sort of cash on one player, especially a player who hasn't even played well for so long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 He wasn't worth £20mil 18 months ago, he's worth way less now. I can't see Ashley paying anything over £12mil, which i'm fully supportive of. We need Debuchy, Douglas, Anita. In that order. I think a striker is just as important as those three, I would put that need ahead of Anita easily arguably more important that Debuchy. My order would be Douglas (or a.n. other quality CB), new striker (my preferance for a young development one, who can play the odd game now), Debuchy (I would have prefered Clyne personally, not that he's a better player but I think we would have gotten better value there) and then Anita (if money left in pot, would be a nice signing but luxury not a necessity). This assumes of course we lose no one else. Aye, i'd possibly go along with that. Debuchy, Douglas, Striker, Anita. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Cisse-8m, better finisher, better with the ball at his feet and does a lot more off the ball. No way carrolls worth 20m, or even near that, we should look for other options IMO, Rodgers can fuck off... Cisse was such a freak you can't use that as an example. The chances of finding someone so complete as a striker for so cheap are unbelievably slim. That said, Carroll isn't worth near 20m regardless. Another alternative is Modibo Maiga, who we came very close to signing. He's just gone to West Ham for £5m. I'm not saying he's as good as Cisse, but we clearly thought he was good enough to score goals in this league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Cisse-8m, better finisher, better with the ball at his feet and does a lot more off the ball. No way carrolls worth 20m, or even near that, we should look for other options IMO, Rodgers can fuck off... Cisse was such a freak you can't use that as an example. The chances of finding someone so complete as a striker for so cheap are unbelievably slim. That said, Carroll isn't worth near 20m regardless. Another alternative is Modibo Maiga, who we came very close to signing. He's just gone to West Ham for £5m. I'm not saying he's as good as Cisse, but we clearly thought he was good enough to score goals in this league. I'm not saying you can't find a goalscorer for so cheap, I'm saying we got incredibly lucky to get someone as good as Cisse, who really seems to have it all. Maiga is probably a good striker, that doesn't mean I'd consider him the "complete" striker, like Cisse is imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Cisse-8m, better finisher, better with the ball at his feet and does a lot more off the ball. No way carrolls worth 20m, or even near that, we should look for other options IMO, Rodgers can f*** off... Cisse was such a freak you can't use that as an example. The chances of finding someone so complete as a striker for so cheap are unbelievably slim. That said, Carroll isn't worth near 20m regardless. Another alternative is Modibo Maiga, who we came very close to signing. He's just gone to West Ham for £5m. I'm not saying he's as good as Cisse, but we clearly thought he was good enough to score goals in this league. Yet we didn't get involved in a very public move to West Ham. Can have been due to the ACN, but if we really have nothing in terms of viable options behind Luuk de Jong and a loan offer for Carroll I would like to believe we'd have gone back in for him if we believed he could have a similar impact to Cisse providing there indeed wasn't a serious medical issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Maiga might not be willing to sit 3rd choice or we may have decided he's too close to what we already have/not that good etc The scouting team (and that included Pardew) have clearly singled out Carroll as the main target for the club, which is why I find it slightly baffling that people WANT us to get priced out of the move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Wait til nearer the August cut off. Unless idiots like Spuds dive in, Liverpool will lower it. Its down to Andy telling the,m where he's going too, and to cause as much bother too - as so many HAVE done to get away (admittedly it didn't work for Modric or Tevez) Maiga might not be willing to sit 3rd choice or we may have decided he's too close to what we already have/not that good etc Maiga signed for West Ham yesterday or the day before Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Nobody is going to offer close to that. The only clubs interested are mid-table sides who can't afford close to that one one player, nevermind the wage bracket. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Wait til nearer the August cut off. Unless idiots like Spuds dive in, Liverpool will lower it. Its down to Andy telling the,m where he's going too, and to cause as much bother too - as so many HAVE done to get away (admittedly it didn't work for Modric or Tevez) Maiga might not be willing to sit 3rd choice or we may have decided he's too close to what we already have/not that good etc Maiga signed for West Ham yesterday or the day before Yeah I know, I was refering to Dave's post above. I probably should have used "might not have" instead of "might not be" like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesPaul Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 £20 million? All right Liverpool, pull the other one! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Cisse-8m, better finisher, better with the ball at his feet and does a lot more off the ball. No way carrolls worth 20m, or even near that, we should look for other options IMO, Rodgers can f*** off... Cisse was such a freak you can't use that as an example. The chances of finding someone so complete as a striker for so cheap are unbelievably slim. That said, Carroll isn't worth near 20m regardless. Ba - free Cisse - £9m Jelavic - £7m Pogrebnyak - free Giroud - £12m You can find quality players for a fraction of the cost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Cisse-8m, better finisher, better with the ball at his feet and does a lot more off the ball. No way carrolls worth 20m, or even near that, we should look for other options IMO, Rodgers can f*** off... Cisse was such a freak you can't use that as an example. The chances of finding someone so complete as a striker for so cheap are unbelievably slim. That said, Carroll isn't worth near 20m regardless. Ba - free Cisse - £9m Jelavic - £7m Pogrebnyak - free Giroud - £12m Pogrebnyak? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Cisse-8m, better finisher, better with the ball at his feet and does a lot more off the ball. No way carrolls worth 20m, or even near that, we should look for other options IMO, Rodgers can f*** off... Cisse was such a freak you can't use that as an example. The chances of finding someone so complete as a striker for so cheap are unbelievably slim. That said, Carroll isn't worth near 20m regardless. Ba - free Cisse - £9m Jelavic - £7m Pogrebnyak - free Giroud - £12m Pogrebnyak? Defoe --> Reading 10m (granted it didn't happen but that is the price they were talking about - to put English player prices into perspective) Edit.. apparently the last links were 5-8. Sure it was 10m to start with... could have been some Spurs ITK hype. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Cisse-8m, better finisher, better with the ball at his feet and does a lot more off the ball. No way carrolls worth 20m, or even near that, we should look for other options IMO, Rodgers can f*** off... Cisse was such a freak you can't use that as an example. The chances of finding someone so complete as a striker for so cheap are unbelievably slim. That said, Carroll isn't worth near 20m regardless. Ba - free Cisse - £9m Jelavic - £7m Pogrebnyak - free Giroud - £12m You can find quality players for a fraction of the cost. Don't think any of them have it all like Cisse though, which was my whole point. I'm NOT saying you can't find good strikers cheap ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 £20 fucking million? Aye, of course someone will pay that! The good news is that the Scousers have more than likely priced us out of a potential move, the bad news is...oh, wait there is none. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Ba - free Cisse - £9m Jelavic - £7m Pogrebnyak - free Giroud - £12m You can find quality players for a fraction of the cost. You can also waste a lot trying to find decent strikers in the bargain basement. Lets not forget we've done exceptionally well in the transfer market. Complete opposite of what we're used to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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