Dokko Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 25% of any profit. So nothing. Whatever makes you sleep at night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 The club that just keeps on giving... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 25% of any profit. So nothing. How do we know this? Not having a go and I have just based my post on an assumption. Just wondered where the 25% profit came from? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 25% of any profit. So nothing. How do we know this? Not having a go and I have just based my post on an assumption. Just wondered where the 25% profit came from? Its an FM thing......part of life now like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 It's 25% of any deal worth over £18.5m, hence our final bid of £18.6m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Simon Bird was the guy who made the 25% sell on fee claim, was in the mirror. Chances are hes made it up, but he said 25% of full sale price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 It is a stupid clause, like he would have ever been sold for more than 35m! On the flipside 25% is a crazy amount for Liverpool to agree on if it's for any fee, not just profit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
durhamunigeordie Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Partner in my firm (we represent LFC) thinks we will get him for 10-12m, current position is just posturing by yanks. Deal will be 'undisclosed' as a result. Not sure how much use this is but he leads a team who do a lot of work for the club at corporate level. A friend of mine's Dad is high up in a firm that did a lot of work for Carroll. He seems to think that AC is on no where near the reported amount. In fact, he said it was about 30k per week. I don't believe that for a second though - for a start he was probably on that here when he left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Partner in my firm (we represent LFC) thinks we will get him for 10-12m, current position is just posturing by yanks. Deal will be 'undisclosed' as a result. Not sure how much use this is but he leads a team who do a lot of work for the club at corporate level. A friend of mine's Dad is high up in a firm that did a lot of work for Carroll. He seems to think that AC is on no where near the reported amount. In fact, he said it was about 30k per week. I don't believe that for a second though - for a start he was probably on that here when he left. Agree. Thats why he asked for another contract after he'd just signed one. It was the money. A bad reason to move, if you expect big returns from the player, as Adebayor has proved so spectacularly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fraser Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 He's definitely not worth £20m or anywhere near that. Having said that he's a very good goal scorer who, against a certain sort of opposition, can dominate. I'd be happy with £12m-ish. If we actually bought him he could play against Liverpool, which will be an important fixture for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Partner in my firm (we represent LFC) thinks we will get him for 10-12m, current position is just posturing by yanks. Deal will be 'undisclosed' as a result. Not sure how much use this is but he leads a team who do a lot of work for the club at corporate level. A friend of mine's Dad is high up in a firm that did a lot of work for Carroll. He seems to think that AC is on no where near the reported amount. In fact, he said it was about 30k per week. I don't believe that for a second though - for a start he was probably on that here when he left. Agree. Thats why he asked for another contract after he'd just signed one. It was the money. A bad reason to move, if you expect big returns from the player, as Adebayor has proved so spectacularly. I recall reading that he was on something like £50k a week but it would rise to about £80k if they got into Europe. Obviously they have, so he may well have just got a pay rise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacko Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 25% of any profit. So nothing. How do we know this? Not having a go and I have just based my post on an assumption. Just wondered where the 25% profit came from? That's what I've mostly read, and it makes far more sense than 25% of any sell-on fee. Obviously, Liverpool got taken to the cleaners in this deal, but it's hard to imagine us agreeing to 25% of any transfer fee. Then again, from the word go, we passed on the fee to Chelsea (nobody knows, but I reckon that when Ashley pulled £35m out of his arse, we called up Chelsea and asked for £20m more for Torres. They agreed, we agreed). With that thinking (i.e. someone else is paying), it's possible they agreed to anything Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 25% of any profit. So nothing. How do we know this? Not having a go and I have just based my post on an assumption. Just wondered where the 25% profit came from? That's what I've mostly read, and it makes far more sense than 25% of any sell-on fee. Obviously, Liverpool got taken to the cleaners in this deal, but it's hard to imagine us agreeing to 25% of any transfer fee. Then again, from the word go, we passed on the fee to Chelsea (nobody knows, but I reckon that when Ashley pulled £35m out of his arse, we called up Chelsea and asked for £20m more for Torres. They agreed, we agreed). With that thinking (i.e. someone else is paying), it's possible they agreed to anything it was such a daft day and well its Ashley I lean more to the 25% of any fee full stop because what would be the point of any profit based one? As Ashley and LLambias knew very well no one would ever be stupider than Liverpool in regards to Carroll (and as llambias put it he's worth fuck all) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 25% of any profit. So nothing. How do we know this? Not having a go and I have just based my post on an assumption. Just wondered where the 25% profit came from? That's what I've mostly read, and it makes far more sense than 25% of any sell-on fee. Obviously, Liverpool got taken to the cleaners in this deal, but it's hard to imagine us agreeing to 25% of any transfer fee. Then again, from the word go, we passed on the fee to Chelsea (nobody knows, but I reckon that when Ashley pulled £35m out of his arse, we called up Chelsea and asked for £20m more for Torres. They agreed, we agreed). With that thinking (i.e. someone else is paying), it's possible they agreed to anything If they were daft enough to pay 35 mill then they were probably daft enough to agree to 25% on the fee rather than profit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robm Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 25% of any profit. So nothing. How do we know this? Not having a go and I have just based my post on an assumption. Just wondered where the 25% profit came from? That's what I've mostly read, and it makes far more sense than 25% of any sell-on fee. Obviously, Liverpool got taken to the cleaners in this deal, but it's hard to imagine us agreeing to 25% of any transfer fee. Then again, from the word go, we passed on the fee to Chelsea (nobody knows, but I reckon that when Ashley pulled £35m out of his arse, we called up Chelsea and asked for £20m more for Torres. They agreed, we agreed). With that thinking (i.e. someone else is paying), it's possible they agreed to anything I thought it was 15 million 35 for Carroll 50 for Torres? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Wish people would give over with this sell-on bollocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacko Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 25% of any profit. So nothing. How do we know this? Not having a go and I have just based my post on an assumption. Just wondered where the 25% profit came from? That's what I've mostly read, and it makes far more sense than 25% of any sell-on fee. Obviously, Liverpool got taken to the cleaners in this deal, but it's hard to imagine us agreeing to 25% of any transfer fee. Then again, from the word go, we passed on the fee to Chelsea (nobody knows, but I reckon that when Ashley pulled £35m out of his arse, we called up Chelsea and asked for £20m more for Torres. They agreed, we agreed). With that thinking (i.e. someone else is paying), it's possible they agreed to anything If they were daft enough to pay 35 mill then they were probably daft enough to agree to 25% on the fee rather than profit. That's the question, isn't it? You could see any tit agreeing to 25% of any profit, knowing that any profit would be a very unexpected bonus, but agreeing to 25% of any transfer fee, knowing you're paying well over the odds to begin with? That would take abnormal stupidity or desperation … 25% of any profit. So nothing. How do we know this? Not having a go and I have just based my post on an assumption. Just wondered where the 25% profit came from? That's what I've mostly read, and it makes far more sense than 25% of any sell-on fee. Obviously, Liverpool got taken to the cleaners in this deal, but it's hard to imagine us agreeing to 25% of any transfer fee. Then again, from the word go, we passed on the fee to Chelsea (nobody knows, but I reckon that when Ashley pulled £35m out of his arse, we called up Chelsea and asked for £20m more for Torres. They agreed, we agreed). With that thinking (i.e. someone else is paying), it's possible they agreed to anything I thought it was 15 million 35 for Carroll 50 for Torres? Wut??? I imagine we were prepared to sell Torres for £30m (he wanted to leave) and pay £15–20m for Carroll. Ashley asked for £35m, and instead of bothering to bargain, we just called Abramovich and said, "£20m more today, or you'll have to wait till summer" (Chelsea wanted him for the CL, remember). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Not saying it didn't happen but the thought of adding £20m to the price of a player just like that is just absurd. And here we are with a lot of the other clubs trying to do things vaguely within our means. Fucking hate Chelsea, although I did before the Russian arrived. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Hindsight's great, but to think we rejected £30m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Wish people would give over with this sell-on bollocks. This. Not one credible source has ever reported this as far as I know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Wish people would give over with this sell-on bollocks. This. Not one credible source has ever reported this as far as I know. I seem to recall caulkin saying it at the time of the sale Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Hindsight's great, but to think we rejected £30m. If we rejected it because we knew they weren't gonna stop there, it makes perfect sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 That's the question, isn't it? You could see any tit agreeing to 25% of any profit, knowing that any profit would be a very unexpected bonus, but agreeing to 25% of any transfer fee, knowing you're paying well over the odds to begin with? That would take abnormal stupidity or desperation … Andy Carroll Stewart Downing Jordan Henderson That fat bloke from blackpool....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VegasToon Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 That's the question, isn't it? You could see any tit agreeing to 25% of any profit, knowing that any profit would be a very unexpected bonus, but agreeing to 25% of any transfer fee, knowing you're paying well over the odds to begin with? That would take abnormal stupidity or desperation … Andy Carroll Stewart Downing Jordan Henderson That fat bloke from blackpool....... How much money was spent on these 4? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Teaboy Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Wish people would give over with this sell-on bollocks. This. Not one credible source has ever reported this as far as I know. Agreed. But such was their desperation to get Carroll, with the deadline approaching, they'd agree to anything. Indeed, I heard that part of the agreement was that Llambias was given full access to Cannoli's holiday villa in the Algarve, Porsche Carrera and 17 year old daughter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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