alexf Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 I love that Rodgers has started bitching and moaning about us. It's not like we have done anything wrong, there's no rule to say you can't bid low for a player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 I love that Rodgers has started bitching and moaning about us. It's not like we have done anything wrong, there's no rule to say you can't bid low for a player He also doesn't have a leg to stand on if he starts talking about tapping players up. He's been dragged down to their level almost instantly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 As a player, I have no qualms about him coming back, he gives us other options if the usual style of play doesn't pay dividends. As a person however, i'd rather we stayed well away, who dives against your hometown club after dumping the number 9 shirt for "the club you love"? Awful scrote. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 I found it very interesting that he used the phrase 'taking liberty' considering his supposed gentleman's agreement with Swansea. Puns aside, his word obviously means nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 In many many ways he's quite a limited player...But there is the odd game he causes havoc. Not sure. 12m is too much. Offer 6 and a biscuit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 For the 'would rather spend the money on a RB/CB/LSFAM' brigade. Has it not become obvious we don't operate like that? If a player becomes available in a position we're short we'll set so much money aside for that player, if the clubs valuation of the player exceeds our own then we back off (ala Debuchy). We're way past the days of, here's x amount of pounds, go and spend it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haz Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 What kind of biscuit? Its important. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 The other worry is there would be more hoofing with goldilocks in the side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 That's been said roughly 1 million times tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Aye, August is always an absolute nightmare for bickering. I can't stand getting involved in stupid arguments online but August and the close of the transfer window can definitely bring it out Fuck off man, you hand bag waving cunt . . . . Nice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heake Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Not that my opinion means owt... But rather than a lump like Carroll for top dough, I would rather prefer a whippet-like forward of the A Cole / bellamy / defoe ilk, to "play of the last man / shoulder" as it were. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 What kind of biscuit? Its important. Custard cream. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Given the style we played, or tried to play, against Spurs at the weekend, is anyone surprised we'd be going back for Carroll?! No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Given the style we played, or tried to play, against Spurs at the weekend, is anyone surprised we'd be going back for Carroll?! No. think Anita will do more than anyone else to take us away from that style Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 What kind of biscuit? Its important. Custard cream. Tunnock's Caramel Wafer otherwise no deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 For the 'would rather spend the money on a RB/CB/LSFAM' brigade. Has it not become obvious we don't operate like that? If a player becomes available in a position we're short we'll set so much money aside for that player, if the clubs valuation of the player exceeds our own then we back off (ala Debuchy). We're way past the days of, here's x amount of pounds, go and spend it. But buying an expensive forward we don't need isn't exactly prudent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DalToon Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Dempsey to Liverpool and Carroll to NUFC? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 For the 'would rather spend the money on a RB/CB/LSFAM' brigade. Has it not become obvious we don't operate like that? If a player becomes available in a position we're short we'll set so much money aside for that player, if the clubs valuation of the player exceeds our own then we back off (ala Debuchy). We're way past the days of, here's x amount of pounds, go and spend it. But buying an expensive forward we don't need isn't exactly prudent. Don't get this. We've got Cisse (poss ACN), Ba (poss ACN), Shola (injury prone) and Sammy (injured) to my knowledge. This lot would be lucky to last a full PL season, nevermind UEFA and the others on top. If Carroll regains his form - and there's no reason to doubt that under Pardew- then he gives us another dimension. Who gives a fuck if it means we lump it to the forwards now and again. Pardew has clearly shown he'll play the team that enables us to defeat the opposition in the most effective way. Some teams this will mean route one, others our 4-3-3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Dempsey to Liverpool and Carroll to NUFC? Seems most likely. Scousers need our money before they buy Dempsey though. Depends if they cave in to our bid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 For the 'would rather spend the money on a RB/CB/LSFAM' brigade. Has it not become obvious we don't operate like that? If a player becomes available in a position we're short we'll set so much money aside for that player, if the clubs valuation of the player exceeds our own then we back off (ala Debuchy). We're way past the days of, here's x amount of pounds, go and spend it. But buying an expensive forward we don't need isn't exactly prudent. Don't get this. We've got Cisse (poss ACN), Ba (poss ACN), Shola (injury prone) and Sammy (injured) to my knowledge. This lot would be lucky to last a full PL season, nevermind UEFA and the others on top. If Carroll regains his form - and there's no reason to doubt that under Pardew- then he gives us another dimension. Who gives a f*** if it means we lump it to the forwards now and again. Pardew has clearly shown he'll play the team that enables us to defeat the opposition in the most effective way. Some teams this will mean route one, others our 4-3-3. Exactly, we are going to need to rest Ba and Cisse at times this season. I'd rather have more than the Ameobi's and heaping pressure on Campbell and Sammy isn't a great idea. I did however think we might wait Carroll out until January when we know about the the African Cup and buy a more versatile pacey winger/striker in the mean time, but if they cave in to 12/13m now why not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 For the 'would rather spend the money on a RB/CB/LSFAM' brigade. Has it not become obvious we don't operate like that? If a player becomes available in a position we're short we'll set so much money aside for that player, if the clubs valuation of the player exceeds our own then we back off (ala Debuchy). We're way past the days of, here's x amount of pounds, go and spend it. But buying an expensive forward we don't need isn't exactly prudent. Don't get this. We've got Cisse (poss ACN), Ba (poss ACN), Shola (injury prone) and Sammy (injured) to my knowledge. This lot would be lucky to last a full PL season, nevermind UEFA and the others on top. If Carroll regains his form - and there's no reason to doubt that under Pardew- then he gives us another dimension. Who gives a f*** if it means we lump it to the forwards now and again. Pardew has clearly shown he'll play the team that enables us to defeat the opposition in the most effective way. Some teams this will mean route one, others our 4-3-3. The key word was expensive. We don't need to be spending anywhere near £12million to get a player of the "quality" of Carroll. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 For the 'would rather spend the money on a RB/CB/LSFAM' brigade. Has it not become obvious we don't operate like that? If a player becomes available in a position we're short we'll set so much money aside for that player, if the clubs valuation of the player exceeds our own then we back off (ala Debuchy). We're way past the days of, here's x amount of pounds, go and spend it. I definitely don't think we just have x as you say then spend as is. Pardew and Carr identify transfer targets, come up what they believe are fair values (whilst taking into account Mike isn't going to go all Man City so they need to be realistic) and put them to Dekka, then we have a 'transfer summit' with all involved where they try and persuade Mike it's worth getting these players in. I definitely think the Carroll bid is Ashley instigated though or at the very least Pardew and Carr saw an opportunity and persuaded Ashley it was his brilliant idea. He is a successful businessman who has built up his empire by being a shrewd/aggressive person to deal with. Selling an asset for well over it's true value and then buying it back from close to/under it's value is his wet dream so it would be a lot easier to persuade him on that one. Basically signing or not signing Carroll doesn't make much difference, he will still believe the offer for Debuchy/Douglas are fair and won't pay over the odds whatever happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Got a vision of a load of NUFC employees carrying £12million in laundered cash in tortoise shell suitcases into Anfield a la Scarface..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 I love that Rodgers has started bitching and moaning about us. It's not like we have done anything wrong, there's no rule to say you can't bid low for a player He also doesn't have a leg to stand on if he starts talking about tapping players up. He's been dragged down to their level almost instantly. Like looking at the BBC site at the moment where it lists Rodgers talking about our bid being a liberty. Then the main headline is about Fulham reporting Liverpool and Rodgers for tapping up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 For the 'would rather spend the money on a RB/CB/LSFAM' brigade. Has it not become obvious we don't operate like that? If a player becomes available in a position we're short we'll set so much money aside for that player, if the clubs valuation of the player exceeds our own then we back off (ala Debuchy). We're way past the days of, here's x amount of pounds, go and spend it. I definitely don't think we just have x as you say then spend as is. Pardew and Carr identify transfer targets, come up what they believe are fair values (whilst taking into account Mike isn't going to go all Man City so they need to be realistic) and put them to Dekka, then we have a 'transfer summit' with all involved where they try and persuade Mike it's worth getting these players in. I definitely think the Carroll bid is Ashley instigated though or at the very least Pardew and Carr saw an opportunity and persuaded Ashley it was his brilliant idea. He is a successful businessman who has built up his empire by being a shrewd/aggressive person to deal with. Selling an asset for well over it's true value and then buying it back from close to/under it's value is his wet dream so it would be a lot easier to persuade him on that one. Basically signing or not signing Carroll doesn't make much difference, he will still believe the offer for Debuchy/Douglas are fair and won't pay over the odds whatever happens. The Carroll bid is deffo Ashley having a giggle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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