Dr Venkman Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 shearer 'not convinced' carroll wanted to leave, incidentally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 practically told to go they have kind of said we don\'t want u Hmmmmmmmmmmm not really decisive is it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 No-one should be 'convinced' he wanted to leave, because he didn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Just want to know, it's the 25% sell on clause + 35m cash, or a total value of 35m including both the clause and an unknown amount of cash? If it's the former one, jesus. Liverpool is really insane. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 shearer 'not convinced' carroll wanted to leave, incidentally. Did Shearer ever get things right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 "they kind of said" ffs Yeah, Ashley really had the 'Bye Bye Carroll' banners out in preparation. Maybe he's just an idiot who can't read the signs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Just want to know, it's the 25% sell on clause + 35m cash, or a total value of 35m including both the clause and an unknown amount of cash? If it's the former one, jesus. Liverpool is really insane. I think it's £35m + 25% sell on clause Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 and another thing, this 35million offer isn't ridiculous imo. Name another player that we could get for that price who is as prolific in the air, and is still young. I can't think of any, hence the price. It means fuck all to us anyway, you can't play 35m up front, and nor will it be spent heavily within the team. The money means fuck all to me, all I know is the home-grown local number 9, who our entire play is centred around has been sold to Liverpool and taken with him a large proportion of what is good about the whole team, and a large proportion of Barton and Nolan's play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 shearer 'not convinced' carroll wanted to leave, incidentally. He knows how football deals work. He know Ashley & Llambias. I will go with Al. KK,Given, Shearer, AC all fall out with club on Ashleys watch. We need to a keep an eye on the Milburn statue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 shearer 'not convinced' carroll wanted to leave, incidentally. Did Shearer ever get things right? Well he did want rid of Colocinni and Barton, who have both arguably been performing better than Carroll this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginola Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 I think he probably was pushed out but he wasn't exactly struggling. If we'd wanted to keep him I think he'd be here this morning. Nail on the head. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 shearer 'not convinced' carroll wanted to leave, incidentally. Did Shearer ever get things right? yep- in front of goal, where it matters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 shearer 'not convinced' carroll wanted to leave, incidentally. Did Shearer ever get things right? He played AC upfront. He knew Oba was a fraud. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 So what was all that shit about my conspiracy theory being a bunch of imaginative bullshit? If those texts are real, shit went down EXACTLY the way I described it, and yet again, the official line from the club is proven to be as reliable as the bible. If those texts are true, of course. And you might say that this is just PR from Carroll and it may well be, but I know I'd rather trust Carroll than Ashley because it wouldnt be the first time Ashley has tried to lie about the official sequence of events. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 This whole episode is symptomatic of football's money malaise and take your pick about who's to blame from Chelsea's fee for Torres to the clubs or the player himself. Carroll will have had his agent alongside him from start to finish, "advising" him like some hungry car salesman and he seems to be getting off pretty scot-free when "blame" is being apportioned. Who is his agent anyway ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Just want to know, it's the 25% sell on clause + 35m cash, or a total value of 35m including both the clause and an unknown amount of cash? If it's the former one, jesus. Liverpool is really insane. I think it's £35m + 25% sell on clause Bloody hell. That's really close to Torres' valuation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 So what was all that s*** about my conspiracy theory being a bunch of imaginative bullshit? If those texts are real, s*** went down EXACTLY the way I described it, and yet again, the official line from the club is proven to be as reliable as the bible. If those texts are true, of course. And you might say that this is just PR from Carroll and it may well be, but I know I'd rather trust Carroll than Ashley because it wouldnt be the first time Ashley has tried to lie about the official sequence of events. nor will it be the last. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 There'll be repercussions if those texts are real because Carroll must have signed some agreement to keep all of this on the downlow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 So what was all that s*** about my conspiracy theory being a bunch of imaginative bullshit? If those texts are real, s*** went down EXACTLY the way I described it, and yet again, the official line from the club is proven to be as reliable as the bible. If those texts are true, of course. And you might say that this is just PR from Carroll and it may well be, but I know I'd rather trust Carroll than Ashley because it wouldnt be the first time Ashley has tried to lie about the official sequence of events. Cannot deny this. That's the price Ashley gotta paid for his past action. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Just want to know, it's the 25% sell on clause + 35m cash, or a total value of 35m including both the clause and an unknown amount of cash? If it's the former one, jesus. Liverpool is really insane. I think it's £35m + 25% sell on clause Bloody hell. That's really close to Torres' valuation. No its not. If AC flops & he is dumped for £8million we get £2 million. If this 25% is off any profit made on the fee Liverpool paid he is going to be a legend & only Barca, Real Madrid & Man City will be able to afford him. Who is saying we have 25% sell on anyway? I would imagine most of the clauses are linked to goals & CL qualification. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Those texts are Carroll trying to scramble back any credit he has with the fans left. They are texts which his Agent probably told him to do to save face. He needs to say this in public before I'll believe it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 I hope the likes of needy and JH won't be as naive as a 5 year old the next time shit like this happens at the club. Classic PR exercise and you just totally fell for it. (if those texts are real and they represent what actually transpired...) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 neesy* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 and another thing, this 35million offer isn't ridiculous imo. Name another player that we could get for that price who is as prolific in the air, and is still young. I can't think of any, hence the price. It means f*** all to us anyway, you can't play 35m up front, and nor will it be spent heavily within the team. The money means f*** all to me, all I know is the home-grown local number 9, who our entire play is centred around has been sold to Liverpool and taken with him a large proportion of what is good about the whole team, and a large proportion of Barton and Nolan's play. Andy Carroll isnt the be all and end all man. Spurs finished in the top 4 last season and they didnt have an Andy Carroll. There are other players out there. Its a team game, not built round 1 player man. Whatever has gone on, £35 million is great business. He's what? 8th most expensive player of all time? Fucking hell, he's only had 6 months in this league, the deal cant be argued - its how much of its invested that will determine whether I go back or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Just want to know, it's the 25% sell on clause + 35m cash, or a total value of 35m including both the clause and an unknown amount of cash? If it's the former one, jesus. Liverpool is really insane. I think it's £35m + 25% sell on clause Bloody hell. That's really close to Torres' valuation. No its not. If AC flops & he is dumped for £8million we get £2 million. If this 25% is off any profit made on the fee Liverpool paid he is going to be a legend & only Barca, Real Madrid & Man City will be able to afford him. Who is saying we have 25% sell on anyway? I would imagine most of the clauses are linked to goals & CL qualification. Even Bent got a valuation of 18m nowadays. I really doubt his next transfer would be less than 10m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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