Guest bimpy474 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I would trust Pardew's judgement if he wanted him. He has at least earned that much. Mixed feelings about this should it come true. This is the point, if Pard's didn't want him we wouldn't be bidding. Trust the Silver Fox i will. That. Plus any deal we would agree with I would trust to be good for us from a financial perspective, as Mike and Derek have earned that trust in the past two seasons. Can't believe I'm actually saying this.. Funny as feck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Ryder reckons Carroll knew about this three days ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesPaul Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I'm on the fence over this. Think he's a cunt for leaving but can see the advantage of having him as a third choice striker behind Cisse and Ba (4th choice behind Shola on derby day). Hilarious if all this amounts to is us trolling Liverpool though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 hmmm Lee Ryder @lee_ryder #nufc won't go anywhere near £35million in the long run after loan if it happens- would be an offer of much less, Carroll knew 3 days ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 £17m? Would be absolutely f***ing fuming if we paid anything like that for the lumbering shithouse, money-grabbing, ungrateful c***. Think who Carr could find with that sort of money to play with. Assuming that was true though, it would be after the season-long loan. If he came back and banged them in alongside Ba, Cisse and Ben Arfa then we might find ourselves qualifying for the CL. In which case it'd be affordable. If he was gash and/or caused trouble, we'd just send him back. # Which would be the beauty of the deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Ryder reckons Carroll knew about this three days ago. How would Ryder know that when he only found out 30mins ago...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fraser Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I say 'yes'. Good option with the amount of competitions we're involved in; if it doesn't work out, don't buy him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Be class if we had a 25% sell-on clause, bought him for 12m and then demanded 3m back from our clause. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nufc_89 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I believe he has to take a huge wage cut if he wants to come back. We will never pay him 75-80k a week Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 http://i555.photobucket.com/albums/jj479/mecharaider/Interesting.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I say 'yes'. Good option with the amount of competitions we're involved in; if it doesn't work out, don't buy him. Spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Lee Ryder @lee_ryder #nufc won't go anywhere near £35million in the long run after loan if it happens- would be an offer of much less, Carroll knew 3 days ago http://freakoutnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Orly.jpg?5f37dd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 No wonder Ashleys a millionaire, trolling cunt him like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 What does Steve Wraith say? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
indi Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Urrgh. Hope this doesn't happen. £17m is a hell of a lot to pay, just to piss the scousers off - as funny as that would be - and looking at it from purely footballing reasons it's senseless, we could get a lot better for that kind of money in my view, not to mention the possible disruption to the squad that could be caused should he carry on from where he left off with his various antics and problems away from match-days. It is possible that this whole experience has been the making of him and he'd return a changed man who understands just how lucky he is to be where he is and has developed the maturity that realisation brings, but I've not seen anything to prove or disprove that myself and unless the evidence is there I wouldn't want us to take the risk. I'd also be unhappy that it would seem to be a step back towards the old days of paying over the odds and buying based upon sentiment, rather than the logic that has served us so well recently. That would actually be my biggest concern because we would definitely still be paying over the odds at anything like £17m and the only reason we'd be even considering buying him in the first place must be sentiment because he's done little to nothing to justify that kind of money since he left us - and probably not even before. Apart from anything I don't think it'd be in his interests either and if I were him and he did have the chance to go somewhere like Italy, I'd take it, as that could well be the making of him and I don't think coming back here will be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED209 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Swap with Ba? Coliccini? Something unpleasant is going to happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 My biggest concern would be his influence off the pitch rather than on it. Would he damage the harmony within the squad? Would he be out on the piss all the time with his mates, getting into bother? Then again I have no doubt that Pardew and the club would put this quite high up on their agenda. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Swap with Ba? Coliccini? Something unpleasant is going to happen. No , its a loan, can you not read. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesPaul Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 My biggest concern would be his influence off the pitch rather than on it. Would he damage the harmony within the squad? Would he be out on the p*ss all the time with his mates, getting into bother? Then again I have no doubt that Pardew and the club would put this quite high up on their agenda. Didnt he apparently get on really well with everyone? Taylor aside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Lee Ryder @lee_ryder #nufc won't go anywhere near £35million in the long run after loan if it happens- would be an offer of much less, Carroll knew 3 days ago http://freakoutnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Orly.jpg?5f37dd Anchorman: Legend of Ron Burgundy Cannonball Scene Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Swap for Coloccini. Fucking hell, why would anyone even type that as a possibility. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 We won't be paying £17m. Easy as. Everything is against Liverpool atm. They've pretty much admitted they want rid and Carroll probably wants to come back. It'll be a lot less. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 My biggest concern would be his influence off the pitch rather than on it. Would he damage the harmony within the squad? Would he be out on the p*ss all the time with his mates, getting into bother? Then again I have no doubt that Pardew and the club would put this quite high up on their agenda. Didnt he apparently get on really well with everyone? Taylor aside. That was when Nolan was here, his mentor. And Barton to provide the comedy diversion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I know it seems daft but I'd like to think Pardew had consulted the squad about this signing to get a general consensus. Maybe I'm looking into it too much but I think him coming back in on his 70k (regardless of how much we're contributing) - which is far above any of our players except maybe Colo are on - might be devisive in the dressing room. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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