Ryan_Taylor Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 FWIW I never suggested Ryan Taylor was anywhere near David Beckham's standard. I simple stated that it is possible to be a professional footballer while only really have one decent footballing attribute. David Beckham was a lot better than Ryan Taylor but without their right feet, both would be selling fruit and veg. It would pretty difficult for anybody to play professional football without a right foot Wouldn't exactly be easy selling fruit and veg either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Christ, this is Pardew syndrome all over again. People just extrapolate their most recent memory backwards. The guy is pants and has been an utterly useless signing - both through fault of his own and not. That's it. Guy was signed from Wigan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Why is Raylor being bigged up so much? He was below average 2 years ago. The only thing he can do is whip a good ball in occasionally, even against QPR his deliveries were bad. His passing is appalling and it's madness he was starting ahead of Anita in midfield who can do everything better than Raylor part from maybe hoof the ball forward and the odd good set piece. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Why is Raylor being bigged up so much? He was below average 2 years ago. The only thing he can do is whip a good ball in occasionally, even against QPR his deliveries were bad. His passing is appalling and it's madness he was starting ahead of Anita in midfield who can do everything better than Raylor part from maybe hoof the ball forward and the odd good set piece. Anita has been shit to be fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 FWIW I never suggested Ryan Taylor was anywhere near David Beckham's standard. I simple stated that it is possible to be a professional footballer while only really have one decent footballing attribute. David Beckham was a lot better than Ryan Taylor but without their right feet, both would be selling fruit and veg. It would pretty difficult for anybody to play professional football without a right foot Wouldn't exactly be easy selling fruit and veg either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Christ, this is Pardew syndrome all over again. People just extrapolate their most recent memory backwards. The guy is pants and has been an utterly useless signing - both through fault of his own and not. On the contrary, I think he's performed better than expected. Sibierski part II. He's not a great footballer by any stretch of the imagination, but we've seen plenty of more talented signings do far less for the club than he has. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 So he's done better than poorer signings so he isnt pants? That's hardly a good yardstick. I know it's taboo to knock a dog when he's down but the blokes been largely bilge despite the occasional free kick our decent spell of crossing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 No, didn't say he isn't "pants." I said that he's exceeded expectations-- or my expectations certainly. He arrived with such a cloud over him. Kinnear, Nsomnia, and all that. I wasn't expecting much. So I don't think that the current good will directed towards him is entirely a matter of people "extrapolating their most recent memory backwards" as Taylor said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Can we stop discussing Ryan Taylor vs David Beckham please, before I die of embarrassment? Hope no neutrals are reading this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 No, didn't say he isn't "pants." I said that he's exceeded expectations-- or my expectations certainly. He arrived with such a cloud over him. Kinnear, Nsomnia, and all that. I wasn't expecting much. So I don't think that the current good will directed towards him is entirely a matter of people "extrapolating their most recent memory backwards" as Taylor said. Cut to the chase. Is he pants or not? If your expectation level was low in the first place then fair enough. I do think people are romanticing the effectiveness of his crossing and dead balls. He hasn't really delivered consistently on that front, albeit scoring in some crucial goals in derbies and Europe. He's tidy enough and has a decent touch but we have enough players like that and he is an abysmal full back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antz1uk Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 i think he was a decent enough squad player to keep around the club for the likes of League cup games , would have said Europe but we all know how that one goes (however this was before 2yrs worth of injuries) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I like him but when most are fit he shouldn't even be near the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chicken little Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 bog average even before his knee exploded multiple times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 No, didn't say he isn't "pants." I said that he's exceeded expectations-- or my expectations certainly. He arrived with such a cloud over him. Kinnear, Nsomnia, and all that. I wasn't expecting much. So I don't think that the current good will directed towards him is entirely a matter of people "extrapolating their most recent memory backwards" as Taylor said. Cut to the chase. Is he pants or not? If your expectation level was low in the first place then fair enough. I do think people are romanticing the effectiveness of his crossing and dead balls. He hasn't really delivered consistently on that front, albeit scoring in some crucial goals in derbies and Europe. He's tidy enough and has a decent touch but we have enough players like that and he is an abysmal full back. NUFC is supposed to be something like the 20th richest club in the world. Ryan Taylor shouldn't be anywhere near our squad. Still, I like the guy. I don't think anyone was seriously comparing his skills to Beckham or any other world class footballer. But compared to the players on our squad, his dead ball skills stand out. (Sadly. There's no Robert in this team.) And given the lack of ideas coming from our manager... a Ryan Taylor free kick is sometimes our best chance at winning those games that we should be winning anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 So he's done better than poorer signings so he isnt pants? That's hardly a good yardstick. I know it's taboo to knock a dog when he's down but the blokes been largely bilge despite the occasional free kick our decent spell of crossing. "Knock a dog when it's down" had me howling Sorry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miercoles Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 So he's done better than poorer signings so he isnt pants? That's hardly a good yardstick. I know it's taboo to knock a dog when he's down but the blokes been largely bilge despite the occasional free kick our decent spell of crossing. "Knock a dog when it's down" had me howling Sorry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Aye I know we played knock a dog run as kids. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Retire. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Getting sent off today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Just awful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Retire. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikenewcastle Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I don't want to insult him, it's ridiculous how many times he's had to play this season after a string of severe injuries. If we were a proper club, he'd be limited to a few sub/cup appearances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 As if 2 years of relentless injuries wasn't a big enough hint to call it a day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I don't want to insult him, it's ridiculous how many times he's had to play this season after a string of severe injuries. If we were a proper club, he'd be limited to a few sub/cup appearances. Rubbish. If we were a proper club he'd have been sold in the Championship season when it was clear even that level was above him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikenewcastle Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 He was a handy player to have around in reserve, don't recall anybody wanting him to p off to the Championship in 11/12. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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