Guest fading star Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 I get equally pissed off when people refuse to recognise how ridiculous a notion it is that any business man, a t*** or otherwise, would base any of his decisions on revenge. It's so ludicrous it is astonishing that anyone can actually take it seriously. Without qualifying it, that's as ridiculous a statement as there's been in the thread. Even the most cold hearted and logical people find it hard not to let emotions and irrationality factor into their decision making. Ashley gambles large amounts of money on roulette, and you're trying to make out that every decision he makes is based on sound financial thinking. t It's equally as ridiculous to suggest that revenge is a factor imo, fact is none of us really know what's going on so to make allegations like "omg Ashley hates us sooo much he's just dragging this on to get us!" is just absurd, and entirely unfounded. And for the record, I'm not claiming it's all based on sound financial thinking, he's proven in the past he's incapable of that when it comes to running a football club. Sometimes it pays dividends to run with an idea that may initially seem absurd. Like, considering if the earth might not be flat after all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Reply #6172 on: Today at 10:45:32 PM » Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote from: dcmk on Today at 08:06:14 PM The mere suggestion of revenge being the motivation for any of this is simply absurd.. ..what type of businessman likes to lose money and see a serious investment fail? Some people on here are just way too paranoid. Paranoid isn't the word, some of them are certifiable, honestly FFS, it's not revenge and it's fantasy to believe that it is. Its simply clawing back as much money as he can. He's a businessman and his decisions will be ruled by money rather than any petty motive for revenge. Stop talking so much sense, you'll confuse people. A couple of points need to be made here. (1) A "certain type" of point-of-view is always easy to make out to be a "common sense" point of view, and therefore easy to support. These points of view usually include a rejection of anything outlandish or unusual. - The fact that something sounds 'common sense' DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE!!! - The fact that this 'common sense' point of view also scorns other less 'common sense sounding' views, as paranoid STILL DOES NOT MAKE THEM TRUE. (2) A certain type of view expressed, usually one that refers to the 'excesses' that certain types of human being indulge in such as where they behave out of passion and anger rather than from cool business-like perspectives, are easy to "rubbish" as being paranoid, etc. These points of view are normally expressed because the person who expresses them has actually experienced human beings behaving TOTALLY IRRATIONALLY. People DO behave that way, you know. They really do!! - The fact that an expreesed view appears (to some) as 'excessive' or 'paranoid' DOES NOT MAKE IT UNTRUE!! So, remember, strange things (seemingly perverse / seemingly unlikely / seemingly impossible) CAN HAPPEN (and frequently do) in life. None of this proves Ashley is doing anything out of revenge ffs. Don't try and justify what is nothing more than getting frustrated and jumping to irrational conclusions. Did he say it did? Basically none of us know Ashley's motives anymore so to dismiss anyone elses opinions on this is talking a lot more s****. Unless you've got a grystal ball? Yes actually, he did. Not in that specific post, but he did. I see you're a member of the "prove I'm wrong" club rather than "I'll prove I'm right". I suppose you also expect atheist to provide proof that God doesn't exist? "Sigh" Of course I never said it did. But, don't let that get in the way! "Sigh" I won't. "Post". I'm shocked! (Take note everyone, LiquidAK has confirmed that he takes NO NOTICE of the truth. Not exactly breaking news, that!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Reply #6172 on: Today at 10:45:32 PM » Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote from: dcmk on Today at 08:06:14 PM The mere suggestion of revenge being the motivation for any of this is simply absurd.. ..what type of businessman likes to lose money and see a serious investment fail? Some people on here are just way too paranoid. Paranoid isn't the word, some of them are certifiable, honestly FFS, it's not revenge and it's fantasy to believe that it is. Its simply clawing back as much money as he can. He's a businessman and his decisions will be ruled by money rather than any petty motive for revenge. Stop talking so much sense, you'll confuse people. A couple of points need to be made here. (1) A "certain type" of point-of-view is always easy to make out to be a "common sense" point of view, and therefore easy to support. These points of view usually include a rejection of anything outlandish or unusual. - The fact that something sounds 'common sense' DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE!!! - The fact that this 'common sense' point of view also scorns other less 'common sense sounding' views, as paranoid STILL DOES NOT MAKE THEM TRUE. (2) A certain type of view expressed, usually one that refers to the 'excesses' that certain types of human being indulge in such as where they behave out of passion and anger rather than from cool business-like perspectives, are easy to "rubbish" as being paranoid, etc. These points of view are normally expressed because the person who expresses them has actually experienced human beings behaving TOTALLY IRRATIONALLY. People DO behave that way, you know. They really do!! - The fact that an expreesed view appears (to some) as 'excessive' or 'paranoid' DOES NOT MAKE IT UNTRUE!! So, remember, strange things (seemingly perverse / seemingly unlikely / seemingly impossible) CAN HAPPEN (and frequently do) in life. None of this proves Ashley is doing anything out of revenge ffs. Don't try and justify what is nothing more than getting frustrated and jumping to irrational conclusions. Did he say it did? Basically none of us know Ashley's motives anymore so to dismiss anyone elses opinions on this is talking a lot more s****. Unless you've got a grystal ball? Yes actually, he did. Not in that specific post, but he did. I see you're a member of the "prove I'm wrong" club rather than "I'll prove I'm right". I suppose you also expect atheist to provide proof that God doesn't exist? "Sigh" Of course I never said it did. But, don't let that get in the way! "Sigh" I won't. "Post". I'm shocked! (Take note everyone, LiquidAK has confirmed that he takes NO NOTICE of the truth. Not exactly breaking news, that!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Reply #6172 on: Today at 10:45:32 PM » Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote from: dcmk on Today at 08:06:14 PM The mere suggestion of revenge being the motivation for any of this is simply absurd.. ..what type of businessman likes to lose money and see a serious investment fail? Some people on here are just way too paranoid. Paranoid isn't the word, some of them are certifiable, honestly FFS, it's not revenge and it's fantasy to believe that it is. Its simply clawing back as much money as he can. He's a businessman and his decisions will be ruled by money rather than any petty motive for revenge. Stop talking so much sense, you'll confuse people. A couple of points need to be made here. (1) A "certain type" of point-of-view is always easy to make out to be a "common sense" point of view, and therefore easy to support. These points of view usually include a rejection of anything outlandish or unusual. - The fact that something sounds 'common sense' DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE!!! - The fact that this 'common sense' point of view also scorns other less 'common sense sounding' views, as paranoid STILL DOES NOT MAKE THEM TRUE. (2) A certain type of view expressed, usually one that refers to the 'excesses' that certain types of human being indulge in such as where they behave out of passion and anger rather than from cool business-like perspectives, are easy to "rubbish" as being paranoid, etc. These points of view are normally expressed because the person who expresses them has actually experienced human beings behaving TOTALLY IRRATIONALLY. People DO behave that way, you know. They really do!! - The fact that an expreesed view appears (to some) as 'excessive' or 'paranoid' DOES NOT MAKE IT UNTRUE!! So, remember, strange things (seemingly perverse / seemingly unlikely / seemingly impossible) CAN HAPPEN (and frequently do) in life. None of this proves Ashley is doing anything out of revenge ffs. Don't try and justify what is nothing more than getting frustrated and jumping to irrational conclusions. Did he say it did? Basically none of us know Ashley's motives anymore so to dismiss anyone elses opinions on this is talking a lot more s****. Unless you've got a grystal ball? Yes actually, he did. Not in that specific post, but he did. I see you're a member of the "prove I'm wrong" club rather than "I'll prove I'm right". I suppose you also expect atheist to provide proof that God doesn't exist? "Sigh" Of course I never said it did. But, don't let that get in the way! "Sigh" I won't. "Post". I'm shocked! (Take note everyone, LiquidAK has confirmed that he takes NO NOTICE of the truth. Not exactly breaking news, that!) No melodramatic "sigh" this time? If you can prove to me that Ashley's doing this out of revenge then feel free to "gloat" and "sigh" all you "want". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Reply #6172 on: Today at 10:45:32 PM » Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote from: dcmk on Today at 08:06:14 PM The mere suggestion of revenge being the motivation for any of this is simply absurd.. ..what type of businessman likes to lose money and see a serious investment fail? Some people on here are just way too paranoid. Paranoid isn't the word, some of them are certifiable, honestly FFS, it's not revenge and it's fantasy to believe that it is. Its simply clawing back as much money as he can. He's a businessman and his decisions will be ruled by money rather than any petty motive for revenge. Stop talking so much sense, you'll confuse people. A couple of points need to be made here. (1) A "certain type" of point-of-view is always easy to make out to be a "common sense" point of view, and therefore easy to support. These points of view usually include a rejection of anything outlandish or unusual. - The fact that something sounds 'common sense' DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE!!! - The fact that this 'common sense' point of view also scorns other less 'common sense sounding' views, as paranoid STILL DOES NOT MAKE THEM TRUE. (2) A certain type of view expressed, usually one that refers to the 'excesses' that certain types of human being indulge in such as where they behave out of passion and anger rather than from cool business-like perspectives, are easy to "rubbish" as being paranoid, etc. These points of view are normally expressed because the person who expresses them has actually experienced human beings behaving TOTALLY IRRATIONALLY. People DO behave that way, you know. They really do!! - The fact that an expreesed view appears (to some) as 'excessive' or 'paranoid' DOES NOT MAKE IT UNTRUE!! So, remember, strange things (seemingly perverse / seemingly unlikely / seemingly impossible) CAN HAPPEN (and frequently do) in life. None of this proves Ashley is doing anything out of revenge ffs. Don't try and justify what is nothing more than getting frustrated and jumping to irrational conclusions. Did he say it did? Basically none of us know Ashley's motives anymore so to dismiss anyone elses opinions on this is talking a lot more s****. Unless you've got a grystal ball? Yes actually, he did. Not in that specific post, but he did. I see you're a member of the "prove I'm wrong" club rather than "I'll prove I'm right". I suppose you also expect atheist to provide proof that God doesn't exist? "Sigh" Of course I never said it did. But, don't let that get in the way! "Sigh" I won't. "Post". I'm shocked! (Take note everyone, LiquidAK has confirmed that he takes NO NOTICE of the truth. Not exactly breaking news, that!) No melodramatic "sigh" this time? If you can prove to me that Ashley's doing this out of revenge then feel free to "gloat" and "sigh" all you "want". "prove" Whoever said PROVE. For the umpteenth time, I did not say P R O V E. Read the posts / understand the posts. No wonder I "sigh" (and you call ME melodramatic!!!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Because when you present such a ridiculous idea such as a business man making revenge based decisions with his own money, you need to prove it has the remotest basis in fact, or that idea will get ridiculed. Clear enough? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fading star Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Reply #6172 on: Today at 10:45:32 PM » Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote from: dcmk on Today at 08:06:14 PM The mere suggestion of revenge being the motivation for any of this is simply absurd.. ..what type of businessman likes to lose money and see a serious investment fail? Some people on here are just way too paranoid. Paranoid isn't the word, some of them are certifiable, honestly FFS, it's not revenge and it's fantasy to believe that it is. Its simply clawing back as much money as he can. He's a businessman and his decisions will be ruled by money rather than any petty motive for revenge. Stop talking so much sense, you'll confuse people. A couple of points need to be made here. (1) A "certain type" of point-of-view is always easy to make out to be a "common sense" point of view, and therefore easy to support. These points of view usually include a rejection of anything outlandish or unusual. - The fact that something sounds 'common sense' DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE!!! - The fact that this 'common sense' point of view also scorns other less 'common sense sounding' views, as paranoid STILL DOES NOT MAKE THEM TRUE. (2) A certain type of view expressed, usually one that refers to the 'excesses' that certain types of human being indulge in such as where they behave out of passion and anger rather than from cool business-like perspectives, are easy to "rubbish" as being paranoid, etc. These points of view are normally expressed because the person who expresses them has actually experienced human beings behaving TOTALLY IRRATIONALLY. People DO behave that way, you know. They really do!! - The fact that an expreesed view appears (to some) as 'excessive' or 'paranoid' DOES NOT MAKE IT UNTRUE!! So, remember, strange things (seemingly perverse / seemingly unlikely / seemingly impossible) CAN HAPPEN (and frequently do) in life. None of this proves Ashley is doing anything out of revenge ffs. Don't try and justify what is nothing more than getting frustrated and jumping to irrational conclusions. Did he say it did? Basically none of us know Ashley's motives anymore so to dismiss anyone elses opinions on this is talking a lot more s****. Unless you've got a grystal ball? Yes actually, he did. Not in that specific post, but he did. I see you're a member of the "prove I'm wrong" club rather than "I'll prove I'm right". I suppose you also expect atheist to provide proof that God doesn't exist? "Sigh" Of course I never said it did. But, don't let that get in the way! "Sigh" I won't. "Post". I'm shocked! (Take note everyone, LiquidAK has confirmed that he takes NO NOTICE of the truth. Not exactly breaking news, that!) No melodramatic "sigh" this time? If you can prove to me that Ashley's doing this out of revenge then feel free to "gloat" and "sigh" all you "want". What would you accept as proof. A written statement from Derek Lambias, signed in blood by JFK perhaps? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Geordiesned Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 I get equally pissed off when people refuse to recognise how ridiculous a notion it is that any business man, a t*** or otherwise, would base any of his decisions on revenge. It's so ludicrous it is astonishing that anyone can actually take it seriously. Without qualifying it, that's as ridiculous a statement as there's been in the thread. Even the most cold hearted and logical people find it hard not to let emotions and irrationality factor into their decision making. Ashley gambles large amounts of money on roulette, and you're trying to make out that every decision he makes is based on sound financial thinking. t It's equally as ridiculous to suggest that revenge is a factor imo, fact is none of us really know what's going on so to make allegations like "omg Ashley hates us sooo much he's just dragging this on to get us!" is just absurd, and entirely unfounded. And for the record, I'm not claiming it's all based on sound financial thinking, he's proven in the past he's incapable of that when it comes to running a football club. Sometimes it pays dividends to run with an idea that may initially seem absurd. Like, considering if the earth might not be flat after all. You better be shitting me! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Reply #6172 on: Today at 10:45:32 PM » Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote from: dcmk on Today at 08:06:14 PM The mere suggestion of revenge being the motivation for any of this is simply absurd.. ..what type of businessman likes to lose money and see a serious investment fail? Some people on here are just way too paranoid. Paranoid isn't the word, some of them are certifiable, honestly FFS, it's not revenge and it's fantasy to believe that it is. Its simply clawing back as much money as he can. He's a businessman and his decisions will be ruled by money rather than any petty motive for revenge. Stop talking so much sense, you'll confuse people. A couple of points need to be made here. (1) A "certain type" of point-of-view is always easy to make out to be a "common sense" point of view, and therefore easy to support. These points of view usually include a rejection of anything outlandish or unusual. - The fact that something sounds 'common sense' DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE!!! - The fact that this 'common sense' point of view also scorns other less 'common sense sounding' views, as paranoid STILL DOES NOT MAKE THEM TRUE. (2) A certain type of view expressed, usually one that refers to the 'excesses' that certain types of human being indulge in such as where they behave out of passion and anger rather than from cool business-like perspectives, are easy to "rubbish" as being paranoid, etc. These points of view are normally expressed because the person who expresses them has actually experienced human beings behaving TOTALLY IRRATIONALLY. People DO behave that way, you know. They really do!! - The fact that an expreesed view appears (to some) as 'excessive' or 'paranoid' DOES NOT MAKE IT UNTRUE!! So, remember, strange things (seemingly perverse / seemingly unlikely / seemingly impossible) CAN HAPPEN (and frequently do) in life. None of this proves Ashley is doing anything out of revenge ffs. Don't try and justify what is nothing more than getting frustrated and jumping to irrational conclusions. Did he say it did? Basically none of us know Ashley's motives anymore so to dismiss anyone elses opinions on this is talking a lot more s****. Unless you've got a grystal ball? Yes actually, he did. Not in that specific post, but he did. I see you're a member of the "prove I'm wrong" club rather than "I'll prove I'm right". I suppose you also expect atheist to provide proof that God doesn't exist? "Sigh" Of course I never said it did. But, don't let that get in the way! "Sigh" I won't. "Post". I'm shocked! (Take note everyone, LiquidAK has confirmed that he takes NO NOTICE of the truth. Not exactly breaking news, that!) No melodramatic "sigh" this time? If you can prove to me that Ashley's doing this out of revenge then feel free to "gloat" and "sigh" all you "want". What would you accept as proof. A written statement from Derek Lambias, signed in blood by JFK perhaps? Is kind of my point, it's something that's ridiculous and as you demonstrated really couldn't be proved, therefore people should expect to be challenged on it when they present it as a possibility, with nothing to back it up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Geordiesned Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Because when you present such a ridiculous idea such as a business man making revenge based decisions with his own money, you need to prove it has the remotest basis in fact, or that idea will get ridiculed. Clear enough? It's a person's "opinion". Get it?? For the love of God!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Geordiesned Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Reply #6172 on: Today at 10:45:32 PM » Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote from: dcmk on Today at 08:06:14 PM The mere suggestion of revenge being the motivation for any of this is simply absurd.. ..what type of businessman likes to lose money and see a serious investment fail? Some people on here are just way too paranoid. Paranoid isn't the word, some of them are certifiable, honestly FFS, it's not revenge and it's fantasy to believe that it is. Its simply clawing back as much money as he can. He's a businessman and his decisions will be ruled by money rather than any petty motive for revenge. Stop talking so much sense, you'll confuse people. A couple of points need to be made here. (1) A "certain type" of point-of-view is always easy to make out to be a "common sense" point of view, and therefore easy to support. These points of view usually include a rejection of anything outlandish or unusual. - The fact that something sounds 'common sense' DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE!!! - The fact that this 'common sense' point of view also scorns other less 'common sense sounding' views, as paranoid STILL DOES NOT MAKE THEM TRUE. (2) A certain type of view expressed, usually one that refers to the 'excesses' that certain types of human being indulge in such as where they behave out of passion and anger rather than from cool business-like perspectives, are easy to "rubbish" as being paranoid, etc. These points of view are normally expressed because the person who expresses them has actually experienced human beings behaving TOTALLY IRRATIONALLY. People DO behave that way, you know. They really do!! - The fact that an expreesed view appears (to some) as 'excessive' or 'paranoid' DOES NOT MAKE IT UNTRUE!! So, remember, strange things (seemingly perverse / seemingly unlikely / seemingly impossible) CAN HAPPEN (and frequently do) in life. None of this proves Ashley is doing anything out of revenge ffs. Don't try and justify what is nothing more than getting frustrated and jumping to irrational conclusions. Did he say it did? Basically none of us know Ashley's motives anymore so to dismiss anyone elses opinions on this is talking a lot more s****. Unless you've got a grystal ball? Yes actually, he did. Not in that specific post, but he did. I see you're a member of the "prove I'm wrong" club rather than "I'll prove I'm right". I suppose you also expect atheist to provide proof that God doesn't exist? "Sigh" Of course I never said it did. But, don't let that get in the way! "Sigh" I won't. "Post". I'm shocked! (Take note everyone, LiquidAK has confirmed that he takes NO NOTICE of the truth. Not exactly breaking news, that!) No melodramatic "sigh" this time? If you can prove to me that Ashley's doing this out of revenge then feel free to "gloat" and "sigh" all you "want". What would you accept as proof. A written statement from Derek Lambias, signed in blood by JFK perhaps? Is kind of my point, it's something that's ridiculous and as you demonstrated really couldn't be proved, therefore people should expect to be challenged on it when they present it as a possibility, with nothing to back it up. Interesting. So by challenged on it you mean saying someone is "spouting shite"? Is that how you conduct all your debates? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Reply #6172 on: Today at 10:45:32 PM » Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote from: dcmk on Today at 08:06:14 PM The mere suggestion of revenge being the motivation for any of this is simply absurd.. ..what type of businessman likes to lose money and see a serious investment fail? Some people on here are just way too paranoid. Paranoid isn't the word, some of them are certifiable, honestly FFS, it's not revenge and it's fantasy to believe that it is. Its simply clawing back as much money as he can. He's a businessman and his decisions will be ruled by money rather than any petty motive for revenge. Stop talking so much sense, you'll confuse people. A couple of points need to be made here. (1) A "certain type" of point-of-view is always easy to make out to be a "common sense" point of view, and therefore easy to support. These points of view usually include a rejection of anything outlandish or unusual. - The fact that something sounds 'common sense' DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE!!! - The fact that this 'common sense' point of view also scorns other less 'common sense sounding' views, as paranoid STILL DOES NOT MAKE THEM TRUE. (2) A certain type of view expressed, usually one that refers to the 'excesses' that certain types of human being indulge in such as where they behave out of passion and anger rather than from cool business-like perspectives, are easy to "rubbish" as being paranoid, etc. These points of view are normally expressed because the person who expresses them has actually experienced human beings behaving TOTALLY IRRATIONALLY. People DO behave that way, you know. They really do!! - The fact that an expreesed view appears (to some) as 'excessive' or 'paranoid' DOES NOT MAKE IT UNTRUE!! So, remember, strange things (seemingly perverse / seemingly unlikely / seemingly impossible) CAN HAPPEN (and frequently do) in life. None of this proves Ashley is doing anything out of revenge ffs. Don't try and justify what is nothing more than getting frustrated and jumping to irrational conclusions. Did he say it did? Basically none of us know Ashley's motives anymore so to dismiss anyone elses opinions on this is talking a lot more s****. Unless you've got a grystal ball? Yes actually, he did. Not in that specific post, but he did. I see you're a member of the "prove I'm wrong" club rather than "I'll prove I'm right". I suppose you also expect atheist to provide proof that God doesn't exist? "Sigh" Of course I never said it did. But, don't let that get in the way! "Sigh" I won't. "Post". I'm shocked! (Take note everyone, LiquidAK has confirmed that he takes NO NOTICE of the truth. Not exactly breaking news, that!) No melodramatic "sigh" this time? If you can prove to me that Ashley's doing this out of revenge then feel free to "gloat" and "sigh" all you "want". What would you accept as proof. A written statement from Derek Lambias, signed in blood by JFK perhaps? Is kind of my point, it's something that's ridiculous and as you demonstrated really couldn't be proved, therefore people should expect to be challenged on it when they present it as a possibility, with nothing to back it up. Interesting. So by challenged on it you mean saying someone is "spouting shite"? Is that how you conduct all your debates? Started out a lot more civil, admittedly that wasn't really fair to him. But then me not being very nice about it, doesn't really effect my argument. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Because when you present such a ridiculous idea such as a business man making revenge based decisions with his own money, you need to prove it has the remotest basis in fact, or that idea will get ridiculed. Clear enough? It's a person's "opinion". Get it?? For the love of God!! Again, calm down. If opinions can't be challenged then there seems to be no point to message boards at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Because when you present such a ridiculous idea such as a business man making revenge based decisions with his own money, you need to prove it has the remotest basis in fact, or that idea will get ridiculed. Clear enough? I do not accept that your inane ramblings about my descriptions of the (if you know anything at all about the scope and depth of human behaviours) very possible realities that we are now facing, is "my idea being ridiculed" at all. I'm afraid that you misunderstand what is going on in this discussion . . . and you over-estimate the importance and relevance of your ramblings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Geordiesned Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Because when you present such a ridiculous idea such as a business man making revenge based decisions with his own money, you need to prove it has the remotest basis in fact, or that idea will get ridiculed. Clear enough? It's a person's "opinion". Get it?? For the love of God!! Again, calm down. If opinions can't be challenged then there seems to be no point to message boards at all. I'm not saying opinions can't be challenged, I just don't agree with put downs or slagging off when people's opinions differ. Heading down that route only leads to people morphing into NE5! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Because when you present such a ridiculous idea such as a business man making revenge based decisions with his own money, you need to prove it has the remotest basis in fact, or that idea will get ridiculed. Clear enough? It's a person's "opinion". Get it?? For the love of God!! Again, calm down. If opinions can't be challenged then there seems to be no point to message boards at all. I'm not saying opinions can't be challenged, I just don't agree with put downs or slagging off when people's opinions differ. Heading down that route only leads to people morphing into NE5! I already said that was over the top, if you're still going on about me accusing him of "spouting shit" then what do you want? I'm sorry I said it, happy? Because when you present such a ridiculous idea such as a business man making revenge based decisions with his own money, you need to prove it has the remotest basis in fact, or that idea will get ridiculed. Clear enough? I do not accept that your inane ramblings about my descriptions of the (if you know anything at all about the scope and depth of human behaviours) very possible realities that we are now facing, is "my idea being ridiculed" at all. I'm afraid that you misunderstand what is going on in this discussion . . . and you over-estimate the importance and relevance of your ramblings. If you can at any point show me where I've done that, then feel free to quote it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Because when you present such a ridiculous idea such as a business man making revenge based decisions with his own money, you need to prove it has the remotest basis in fact, or that idea will get ridiculed. Clear enough? It's a person's "opinion". Get it?? For the love of God!! Again, calm down. If opinions can't be challenged then there seems to be no point to message boards at all. I'm not saying opinions can't be challenged, I just don't agree with put downs or slagging off when people's opinions differ. Heading down that route only leads to people morphing into NE5! I already said that was over the top, if you're still going on about me accusing him of "spouting s***" then what do you want? I'm sorry I said it, happy? Because when you present such a ridiculous idea such as a business man making revenge based decisions with his own money, you need to prove it has the remotest basis in fact, or that idea will get ridiculed. Clear enough? I do not accept that your inane ramblings about my descriptions of the (if you know anything at all about the scope and depth of human behaviours) very possible realities that we are now facing, is "my idea being ridiculed" at all. I'm afraid that you misunderstand what is going on in this discussion . . . and you over-estimate the importance and relevance of your ramblings. If you can at any point show me where I've done that, then feel free to quote it. Actually, shall we just agree to differ about what is actually happening here? My perception of Ashley is that he is doing what he is doing for certain reasons. You do not agree with me. I hope I am wrong (because, like you, I LOVE my club) but I do think (from my own experience of life) that I am (sadly) very, very, right. OK . . . friends!!!!!? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fading star Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 I get equally pissed off when people refuse to recognise how ridiculous a notion it is that any business man, a t*** or otherwise, would base any of his decisions on revenge. It's so ludicrous it is astonishing that anyone can actually take it seriously. Without qualifying it, that's as ridiculous a statement as there's been in the thread. Even the most cold hearted and logical people find it hard not to let emotions and irrationality factor into their decision making. Ashley gambles large amounts of money on roulette, and you're trying to make out that every decision he makes is based on sound financial thinking. t It's equally as ridiculous to suggest that revenge is a factor imo, fact is none of us really know what's going on so to make allegations like "omg Ashley hates us sooo much he's just dragging this on to get us!" is just absurd, and entirely unfounded. And for the record, I'm not claiming it's all based on sound financial thinking, he's proven in the past he's incapable of that when it comes to running a football club. Sometimes it pays dividends to run with an idea that may initially seem absurd. Like, considering if the earth might not be flat after all. You better be shitting me! everyone knows the earth is shaped like a head that been repeatedly banged against a brick wall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Geordiesned Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Because when you present such a ridiculous idea such as a business man making revenge based decisions with his own money, you need to prove it has the remotest basis in fact, or that idea will get ridiculed. Clear enough? It's a person's "opinion". Get it?? For the love of God!! Again, calm down. If opinions can't be challenged then there seems to be no point to message boards at all. I'm not saying opinions can't be challenged, I just don't agree with put downs or slagging off when people's opinions differ. Heading down that route only leads to people morphing into NE5! I already said that was over the top, if you're still going on about me accusing him of "spouting shit" then what do you want? I'm sorry I said it, happy? Yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Because when you present such a ridiculous idea such as a business man making revenge based decisions with his own money, you need to prove it has the remotest basis in fact, or that idea will get ridiculed. Clear enough? It's a person's "opinion". Get it?? For the love of God!! Again, calm down. If opinions can't be challenged then there seems to be no point to message boards at all. I'm not saying opinions can't be challenged, I just don't agree with put downs or slagging off when people's opinions differ. Heading down that route only leads to people morphing into NE5! I already said that was over the top, if you're still going on about me accusing him of "spouting shit" then what do you want? I'm sorry I said it, happy? Yes. Good, glad to have been of service. (Why is that smiley labeled "Yorkie"?) Because when you present such a ridiculous idea such as a business man making revenge based decisions with his own money, you need to prove it has the remotest basis in fact, or that idea will get ridiculed. Clear enough? It's a person's "opinion". Get it?? For the love of God!! Again, calm down. If opinions can't be challenged then there seems to be no point to message boards at all. I'm not saying opinions can't be challenged, I just don't agree with put downs or slagging off when people's opinions differ. Heading down that route only leads to people morphing into NE5! I already said that was over the top, if you're still going on about me accusing him of "spouting s***" then what do you want? I'm sorry I said it, happy? Because when you present such a ridiculous idea such as a business man making revenge based decisions with his own money, you need to prove it has the remotest basis in fact, or that idea will get ridiculed. Clear enough? I do not accept that your inane ramblings about my descriptions of the (if you know anything at all about the scope and depth of human behaviours) very possible realities that we are now facing, is "my idea being ridiculed" at all. I'm afraid that you misunderstand what is going on in this discussion . . . and you over-estimate the importance and relevance of your ramblings. If you can at any point show me where I've done that, then feel free to quote it. Actually, shall we just agree to differ about what is actually happening here? My perception of Ashley is that he is doing what he is doing for certain reasons. You do not agree with me. I hope I am wrong (because, like you, I LOVE my club) but I do think (from my own experience of life) that I am (sadly) very, very, right. OK . . . friends!!!!!? Yep, we both have different opinions of it and in truth neither of us can prove that we're right. Personally I hope you're wrong, because if you're right I dread to think what'll become of us when he's through. Friends. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UV Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Because when you present such a ridiculous idea such as a business man making revenge based decisions with his own money, you need to prove it has the remotest basis in fact, or that idea will get ridiculed. Clear enough? It's a person's "opinion". Get it?? For the love of God!! Again, calm down. If opinions can't be challenged then there seems to be no point to message boards at all. I'm not saying opinions can't be challenged, I just don't agree with put downs or slagging off when people's opinions differ. Heading down that route only leads to people morphing into the people who disagreed with NE5! FYP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WashyGeordie Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/8351/sjpcd.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Not sure if this has been posted, interesting quotes from Duff: Whole article: http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_5450345,00.html He added: "I don't know about deadlines, it should have been two weeks ago. For the past six weeks we've been hearing it will be sorted this time next week. We're sick of hearing it to be honest." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Aren't we all Damien. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Not sure if this has been posted, interesting quotes from Duff: Whole article: http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_5450345,00.html He added: "I don't know about deadlines, it should have been two weeks ago. For the past six weeks we've been hearing it will be sorted this time next week. We're sick of hearing it to be honest." Just shut up and pick up your wages you useless cunt. It's not like you've ever earned them, I don't know what you're moaning about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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