Tooj Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I see the likes of Wilshere and Welbeck aren't available for selection for the U-21 squad. It's a shame IMO as it gives them invaluable tournament experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I think Welbeck should be in there, I can understand them not wanting to break Wilshere with extra games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I see the likes of Wilshere and Welbeck aren't available for selection for the U-21 squad. It's a shame IMO as it gives them invaluable tournament experience. Not to mention it vastly increases our chance of winning if our best players are selected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I think Welbeck should be in there, I can understand them not wanting to break Wilshere with extra games. I can understand it, but actually, can we please break Wilshere with extra games? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Adam Armstrong and Kyle Cameron in your U16 squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Call-ups for qualifiers against San Marino and Montenegro: Goalkeepers: Ben Foster, Joe Hart, Fraser Forster Defenders: Leighton Baines, Gary Cahill, Ashley Cole, Michael Dawson, Rio Ferdinand (), Glen Johnson, Chris Smalling, Kyle Walker Midfielders: Michael Carrick, Tom Cleverley, Steven Gerrard, Frank Lampard, Aaron Lennon, James Milner, Leon Osman, Scott Parker, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, Theo Walcott, Ashley Young Forwards: Jermain Defoe, Wayne Rooney, Daniel Sturridge, Daniel Welbeck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Call-ups for qualifiers against San Marino and Montenegro: Goalkeepers: Ben Foster (), Joe Hart, Fraser Forster () Defenders: Leighton Baines, Gary Cahill (), Ashley Cole, Michael Dawson (), Rio Ferdinand (), Glen Johnson (), Chris Smalling (), Kyle Walker () Midfielders: Michael Carrick (), Tom Cleverley (), Steven Gerrard (), Frank Lampard (), Aaron Lennon (), James Milner (), Leon Osman (), Scott Parker (), Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (), Theo Walcott (), Ashley Young () Forwards: Jermain Defoe (), Wayne Rooney, Daniel Sturridge (), Daniel Welbeck () FYP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 We're just not very good, are we? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 I don't find the Rio selection that funny tbh, i think he's been outstanding for last few months for Man Yoo and against Madrid he was faultless anything that went anywhere near him he dealt with casual brilliance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Call-ups for qualifiers against San Marino and Montenegro: Goalkeepers: Ben Foster, Joe Hart, Fraser Forster Defenders: Leighton Baines, Gary Cahill, Ashley Cole, Michael Dawson, Rio Ferdinand (), Glen Johnson, Chris Smalling, Kyle Walker Midfielders: Michael Carrick, Tom Cleverley, Steven Gerrard, Frank Lampard, Aaron Lennon, James Milner, Leon Osman, Scott Parker, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, Theo Walcott, Ashley Young Forwards: Jermain Defoe, Wayne Rooney, Daniel Sturridge, Daniel Welbeck Not sure why you're mocking the Rio selection? He's actually been very very good for Man Utd recently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 We're just not very good, are we? We're all right, honestly. We're neither as bad as people (and some media) say, or as good as the media (and some people) say. We're not as good as Spain, but we should be better than San Marino and Montenegro. The problem is, people like Dawson and Parker have actually played pretty well recently. I can understand the call-up from a "rewarding good form" perspective, but I just don't think they should be playing from a "building a squad" perspective. They're not technically good enough to play at the top level unless they are part of a well-drilled team, and I don't think we're that. Are there not younger alternatives available? Maybe not tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 We're just not very good, are we? We're all right, honestly. We're neither as bad as people (and some media) say, or as good as the media (and some people) say. We're not as good as Spain, but we should be better than San Marino and Montenegro. The problem is, people like Dawson and Parker have actually played pretty well recently. I can understand the call-up from a "rewarding good form" perspective, but I just don't think they should be playing from a "building a squad" perspective. They're not technically good enough to play at the top level unless they are part of a well-drilled team, and I don't think we're that. Are there not younger alternatives available? Maybe not tbh. That's it, there aren't really any stand out alternatives. I look at that squad and think 'average'. At least on the international stage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Didn't even realise Parker was back in, disappointing as I don't think he is up to it. Aside from that it's fine, can only pick from what you've got and unfortunately England only have a handful of top class players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Ya's are all furgetting we beated Brasil ENGURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRLUUUUUUUUUND Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 We're just not very good, are we? We're all right, honestly. We're neither as bad as people (and some media) say, or as good as the media (and some people) say. We're not as good as Spain, but we should be better than San Marino and Montenegro. The problem is, people like Dawson and Parker have actually played pretty well recently. I can understand the call-up from a "rewarding good form" perspective, but I just don't think they should be playing from a "building a squad" perspective. They're not technically good enough to play at the top level unless they are part of a well-drilled team, and I don't think we're that. Are there not younger alternatives available? Maybe not tbh. That's it, there aren't really any stand out alternatives. I look at that squad and think 'average'. At least on the international stage. It's unfortunate. I mean, I look at the Spurs players there (Dawson, Walker, Parker, Lennon, Defoe) and every one has had mixed reviews from Spurs fans over the last couple of seasons. Every one has had a few people say they're not good enough for a Top 4 team (rightly or wrongly). The last three are not long back from injuries too. I wouldn't say that any of them are credited with good footballing brains either, which seems to be the real problem with English players. That puts a lot of onus on the Coach to build a system that can use their strengths, which has got to be hard in the time he has. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Miguel Piñero Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Never understood the 'building for the future' argument in regards to Ferdinand when Lampard and Gerrard are still stalwarts and the players picked ahead of him like Lescott Jagielka and Cahill are neither partiularly young or good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Never understood the 'building for the future' argument in regards to Ferdinand when Lampard and Gerrard are still stalwarts and the players picked ahead of him like Lescott Jagielka and Cahill are neither partiularly young or good Really? Ferdinand will be 35 this year, and has had considerable issues with injuries. Cahill is 27. Not that I think that Ferdinand should necessarily be dropped, just that the "building for the future" argument would surely be the obvious reason why he might be dropped. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Miguel Piñero Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 the 'future' is only in a years time when the world cup takes place, I'd be surprised if Ferdinand isnt still considerably better than Cahill or the others at that point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morla84 Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 The England squad really does look worse every time, waste of time qualifying really Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 It's 16 or so months away. Still some way better than Cahill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 There is a reasonable chance Ferdinand will be either injured or in steep decline by the world cup, I would understand him being dropped from the England setup completely tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 recalling Ferdinand for these fucking games. What a sad fucking no balls arsehole Woy is. Nothing ever changes, ever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 what great planning for the future by England Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Still think Ferdinand's the best English CB, mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 I don't disagree, and tbh any criticism is tempered by the fact not sure there is an england squad there to be selected that would impress me, but if we want to compete at the world cup, we should be settling in a squad of the same players, players who give a damn, and kicking out the usual suspects, and those who might play good games but are ageing and getting worse, so by next summer could be injured or worthless. The england team's revolving door of occaisionally blooded younger players in and out doesn't build any kind of team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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