Pata Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 'Hodgson, who achieved perhaps the best moment of his career on Tuesday when England qualified for next year's World Cup...' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 This monkey thing is fucking ridiculous and I actually feel sorry for Hodgson having this aimed at him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Oliver Holt @OllieHolt22 3m Totally understand why some people annoyed about Hodgson story. Think our treatment of it reflects that feeling, too. Expand Oliver Holt @OllieHolt22 1m But fact is one England player in that dressing room at half time was- rightly or wrongly - upset about what Hodgson said and acted on it Expand What's gan on like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/england-boss-hodgson-caught-up-2460799 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Absolute nothing story and it's a shame it's come out at a time when we've just qualified for what will be the biggest World Cup for decades. The media in this country man, ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Front page of The Sun. I hope people see the story for what it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Wayne Rooney (@WayneRooney) tweeted at 8:13 am on Thu, Oct 17, 2013: Seen the story on roy this morning. He done nothing wrong. This is ridiculous. ( ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Its funny, I'm just reading Sir Bob's book at he's currently managing England. He's mentioned a few times of newspapers trying to hang him out to dry with ridiculous stories. He mentions the Sun on a couple of occasions too. Why do they constantly do it to every England manager? I don’t get it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Its funny, I'm just reading Sir Bob's book at he's currently managing England. He's mentioned a few times of newspapers trying to hang him out to dry with ridiculous stories. He mentions the Sun on a couple of occasions too. Why do they constantly do it to every England manager? I don’t get it. To sell papers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Its funny, I'm just reading Sir Bob's book at he's currently managing England. He's mentioned a few times of newspapers trying to hang him out to dry with ridiculous stories. He mentions the Sun on a couple of occasions too. Why do they constantly do it to every England manager? I don’t get it. To sell papers Aye but they always seem shockingly vindictive towards England managers in particular. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Flourishing now in a nice small job like managing England. He's qualified - big whoop. He's on par. He's also in this position where the media have pretended that they don't have high expectactions which has helped a little. IMO he's L'pool's Big Sam. It's just a bad fit. Any successful L'pool manager has to have the big grand ambitions, spirit of Shankly, best fans in the world etc. They need to have a certain authority while being a victim when it suits them. Fundamentally, a die-hard pragmatist isn't going to work at L'pool unless they get tremendous results. I couldn't see Hodgson at any of the other bigger clubs in England. I rate Clarke higher than Hodgson. Hodgson's better than Pardew but not by a massive distance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 2009/10 Benitez (sold Xabi Alonso) 7th 2010/11 Hodgson (sold Mascherano) 7th (Aug - Jan) 2010/11 Dogleash 6th (Jan - May) 2011/12 Dogleash 8th 2012/13 Rodgers 7th Yet Woy is hated there and the other three are idolised. I don't get it. PS/ That story in 'The Sun' is ridiculous. What a horrible paper. Benitez won trophies. 2 CL finals, 1 win. We idolise Kev for less. Dalglish is a legend. Arguably their greatest player ever. Rodgers side is based around youth and looks to have tremendous potential.He has a philosophy the supporters can get behind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapo Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 :The second worst thing about that article is "England World Cup hero Andros Townsend" Also Holt is a pompous c***. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 andros townsend @andros_townsend 11m I don't know what all this fuss is about. No offence was meant and none was taken! It's not even news worthy! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Absolutely embarrassing from The Sun once again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 The journo was on TalkShite. He's primarily their showbiz reporter, and also Scottish Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Oh, so it wasn't racist at all. Righto, nice work Sun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Ultimately the way it should've been handled if at all true is the offended player should've approached Hodgson - not go crying to the press. Now it's out in the open, the offended player should come out and explain "the truth" and how it offended him so we get a satisfactory ending and can move on - but he won't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudil Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 2009/10 Benitez (sold Xabi Alonso) 7th 2010/11 Hodgson (sold Mascherano) 7th (Aug - Jan) 2010/11 Dogleash 6th (Jan - May) 2011/12 Dogleash 8th 2012/13 Rodgers 7th Yet Woy is hated there and the other three are idolised. I don't get it. PS/ That story in 'The Sun' is ridiculous. What a horrible paper. We were 13th when Roy was sacked (25 points in 20 games) , and not 7th. After his sacking, we had the 2nd best record in the league (after United) in second half of that season. Then f*** knows why Dalglish abandoned his passing game and formula and built a team around Andy f***ing Carroll. Also, the other 3 are praised (Despite their managerial deficiencies) because they defended the club and the city and talked the club up, as opposed to bringing the club down and undermining the fans. I am sure you'll appreciate a manager who'll go out there and say : "I want this club to be competitive with the very best in the country. I want to win many games and bring pride back to the shirt. With the support of the fans we can do it. I'll protect the values of this club and we'll grow together" as opposed to someone a manager saying : "an away win is rare (historic)" . Hodgson was absolutely crap at Liverpool and a cunt to boot. People are just sticking the boot in because they don't like Liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 We're all talking about it. The Sun has won and they're now vindicated in doing it again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 2009/10 Benitez (sold Xabi Alonso) 7th 2010/11 Hodgson (sold Mascherano) 7th (Aug - Jan) 2010/11 Dogleash 6th (Jan - May) 2011/12 Dogleash 8th 2012/13 Rodgers 7th Yet Woy is hated there and the other three are idolised. I don't get it. PS/ That story in 'The Sun' is ridiculous. What a horrible paper. We were 13th when Roy was sacked (25 points in 20 games) , and not 7th. After his sacking, we had the 2nd best record in the league (after United) in second half of that season. Then f*** knows why Dalglish abandoned his passing game and formula and built a team around Andy f***ing Carroll. Also, the other 3 are praised (Despite their managerial deficiencies) because they defended the club and the city and talked the club up, as opposed to bringing the club down and undermining the fans. I am sure you'll appreciate a manager who'll go out there and say : "I want this club to be competitive with the very best in the country. I want to win many games and bring pride back to the shirt. With the support of the fans we can do it. I'll protect the values of this club and we'll grow together" as opposed to someone a manager saying : "an away win is rare (historic)" . Hodgson was absolutely crap at Liverpool and a c*** to boot. People are just sticking the boot in because they don't like Liverpool. This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 However Piara Powar, executive director of Fare (Football Against Racism in Europe), told the BBC: "This was a silly phrase to use in a diverse workforce. "One assumes it wasn't Freudian - there is no evidence to suggest it was. I think some players will see it as a reflection of the type of language still used by some coaches and some attitudes that still prevail." From the BBC's article. Hate the way these interest groups sensationalise things in order to get themselves exposure. Not quite as bad as the 'Society of Black Lawyers' but still why anybody gives these people the time of day is beyond me. What a load of shite. I'm all for the groups that represent interests of specific groups but they do themselves no favours trying to get press off the back of this sort of thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 However Piara Powar, executive director of Fare (Football Against Racism in Europe), told the BBC: "This was a silly phrase to use in a diverse workforce. "One assumes it wasn't Freudian - there is no evidence to suggest it was. I think some players will see it as a reflection of the type of language still used by some coaches and some attitudes that still prevail." From the BBC's article. Hate the way these interest groups sensationalise things in order to get themselves exposure. Not quite as bad as the 'Society of Black Lawyers' but still why anybody gives these people the time of day is beyond me. What a load of shite. I'm all for the groups that represent interests of specific groups but they do themselves no favours trying to get press off the back of this sort of thing. Keeps them relevant, innit. Knock on effect when it comes to funding, I'm sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 As for the comments, (Solely speaking about football), a manager's mentality translates into his players. Rafa's first interview when becoming manager in 2004 was : "I have come here to win. I want to win a lot of matches, and make history in this football club." Sorry for having some ambition. He cried when he announced that he was leaving Valencia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacko Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Everyone cried when he left Liverpool (except the fucking Texans) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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