Ronaldo Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I'd love Klopp. Though I can't ever see a German coaching england. I'm pretty amazed any Englishman would be in favour of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Thought the tactics at times under Sven were really poor. As in we often played a lot of long-ball and totally bypassed the midfield, which is one of the reasons I thought Scholes was so poor before he was shunted out to the left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 If I was Greg Dyke I would offer the job to Rafa, either now or in 2 years time when Hodgson hopefully leaves. Though that might be as popular as hiring a German. It will be Redknapp won't it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Nah, I'd love Rafa to get it. Great manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Absolutely no doubt they'll go English again mind, they won't have the bollocks to make another foreign hire. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I'm personally a bit puzzled why you're allowed foreign managers in international football anyway, but if its allowed then there's no difference between a German managing us and an Italian in Capello. The rivalry is a false one, we're also-rans while they're perennial achievers. It's like trying to say Manchester United are Newcastle's rivals. There would be no difference to a German managing say Sweden or the Czechs based on our record. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Give it to Pulis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I'm personally a bit puzzled why you're allowed foreign managers in international football anyway, but if its allowed then there's no difference between a German managing us and an Italian in Capello. The rivalry is a false one, we're also-rans while they're perennial achievers. It's like trying to say Manchester United are Newcastle's rivals. There would be no difference to a German managing say Sweden or the Czechs based on our record. Agree. I'd like us to get someone to instill a winning mentality into us firstly and foremost. I don't care what nationality he is. I actually would like Wenger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I'd love Klopp. Though I can't ever see a German coaching england. I'm pretty amazed any Englishman would be in favour of it. So no Germans due to something that happened long before you and they were born. Your primitive attitude extends further than your fists I see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Whatev. Some things just aren't right, for a variety of reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I said this the other day. A German can't ever manage the England team, and it's pretty amazing that a German of all people can't grasp why. Was just saying that he'd be an ideal person to give English football some new structures which is needed imo. Klinsmann isn't much German these days anyway btw - but, obviously it won't happen because of what you said above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I'm personally a bit puzzled why you're allowed foreign managers in international football anyway, but if its allowed then there's no difference between a German managing us and an Italian in Capello. The rivalry is a false one, we're also-rans while they're perennial achievers. It's like trying to say Manchester United are Newcastle's rivals. There would be no difference to a German managing say Sweden or the Czechs based on our record. Agree. I'd like us to get someone to instill a winning mentality into us firstly and foremost. I don't care what nationality he is. I actually would like Wenger. How is a nation deserving of claiming a title if it takes someone from another nation to do it for them though? I actually think Redknapp would manage England pretty well, better than Hodgson anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicago_shearer Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I don't have much issue with another foreign manager, but I can't see why anyone who isn't English would want to do it. Wenger's been in England 20 years. Problem is, it doesn't seem like an enjoyable job with a reasonable prospect of emerging with your reputation unscathed. The best reason for a forriner would be a massive FA pay day, which isn't the greatest reason to take an international job or a good indicator of success. Other large European nations seem to do a better job of finding up and coming young domestic managers or dusting off some old man who does a decent job. Roy failed, but I think he picked a good squad and set them up to play decent football for the first time in a while. The players made bad mistakes and missed chances to win. They lacked character and played scared. Roy's failing was an inability to lift the atmosphere of fear and failure that builds 6 months before every tournament and culminates with uncharacteristic mistakes, and professional footballers groveling and apologizing to the public after another early exit. What I think England need is an exceptional man manager - someone who can build up confidence. I have no idea who that might be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I'm personally a bit puzzled why you're allowed foreign managers in international football anyway, but if its allowed then there's no difference between a German managing us and an Italian in Capello. The rivalry is a false one, we're also-rans while they're perennial achievers. It's like trying to say Manchester United are Newcastle's rivals. There would be no difference to a German managing say Sweden or the Czechs based on our record. Agree. I'd like us to get someone to instill a winning mentality into us firstly and foremost. I don't care what nationality he is. I actually would like Wenger. is a nation deserving of claiming a title if it takes someone from another nation to do it for them though? I actually think Redknapp would manage England pretty well, better than Hodgson anyway. Sorry but that's bollocks. What difference does it make? We've had foreign coaches win the Ashes with England teams. Just don't see the problem at all. What it says to me is there aren't any decent English managers. And of course, there aren't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I'm personally a bit puzzled why you're allowed foreign managers in international football anyway, but if its allowed then there's no difference between a German managing us and an Italian in Capello. The rivalry is a false one, we're also-rans while they're perennial achievers. It's like trying to say Manchester United are Newcastle's rivals. There would be no difference to a German managing say Sweden or the Czechs based on our record. Agree. I'd like us to get someone to instill a winning mentality into us firstly and foremost. I don't care what nationality he is. I actually would like Wenger. How is a nation deserving of claiming a title if it takes someone from another nation to do it for them though? I actually think Redknapp would manage England pretty well, better than Hodgson anyway. I agree that in an ideal world countries would only have managers and players from their own country, but I don't think the rest of the world really gives a shit. Spain won the Euros with Marcos Senna in their side and no one cared, this year they had Diego Costa, and although it irritated the Brazilians no one else cared. As for Redknapp, his 1 FA Cup in 30 years tells me he's not a tournament manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Pls tell me the non German thing isn't based on anything historic? It's probably not futuristic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Pls tell me the non German thing isn't based on anything historic? What else could it be? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Pls tell me the non German thing isn't based on anything historic? It's probably not futuristic. Weyyyy. But still. "Mind you this might only be a darts match but we've stil got to beat these German lads" "Hows' that like?" "Cos these bastards bombed me granny" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Italy was complicit and actively participated in aerial attack on Britain, yet Capello got his millions. Cameroon was cut and sliced repeatedly by Britain, Germany, and France yet hire French and German managers repeatedly. Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Eriksson also flopped in three main issues for England: 2. For such a good side on paper, they were largely a lucky team (Germany 5-1 aside). I don't remember a single game against top opposition where I felt really positive or that we dominated to such an extent or that I enjoyed our style of play. In fact the last time England looked good, was under Glenn Hoddle in France 98. I think that team with Shearer, Owen, etc were more unlucky than most. They gave a good Argentina side featuring a peak Batistuta a helluva game with only 10 men and had a goal ruled out. They shouldn't have really faced Argentina as it was only down to a silly penalty against Romania that ensured we finished second as opposed to top of the group. . While I don't disagree, at international football I don't know how often this actually happens. If you look at the last 2 World Cup finalists: Spain - won all the games 1-0 with the mighty Paraguay a penalty save away from taking the lead. Don't think they played brilliantly at all except maybe in defending against Germany in the semi's. Netherlands - weren't brilliant in 2010 in terms of style of play. I believe the lines between success and failure at international level are so small. Like you say, a poor tackle and the route you take becomes very hard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 The idea that a foreigner shouldn't manage a country's national team is almost as much of an anachronism as international football itself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicago_shearer Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 If Klopp wanted to manage England, fair enough, bring him in. Xenophobia is stupid. But in real life the actual German national team are getting fantastic results with a former Austrian league manager whose main career accomplishment was winning a German cup in 1996. Plenty of managers who would never get a job in the Premier League doing well in this World Cup with less talent than the England team. The national team have bigger problems than the man picking the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Xenophobia, man. Do one. There's absolutely no xenophobia in saying that the manager should be the same nationality as the players (not that I particularly agree with that) or that a German coach wouldn't work as manager of England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27960776 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27960776 I feel he said that Gerrard is a selfish cunt but in a very polite way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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