The College Dropout Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27960776 I feel he said that Gerrard is a selfish c*** but in a very polite way. Not really, he said Gerrard is not a defensively intelligent footballer. His best performances for L'pool under Benitez imo came in a free role of sorts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Spain, Germany, Italy, Netherlands, France - none of these countries would entertain the idea of a foreign coach, and none have had one for a very long time. I don't think England should be any different in that approach personally, given our resources and the strength of our domestic competition. Doing otherwise is a tacit acceptance that our coaching isn't good enough, not something I'd want to be doing ideally. But...the strength of your domestic competition is built almost entirely by foreign players and managers, isn't it? Rooney is probably still the best English player and everyone just spent a week calling him an overrated asshole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 The real issue is why we have to look abroad any-case. If the likes of Pardle and Allardyce get linked then you have your answer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I hate to say it but I think Redknapp would have got more out of this crop of players than Hodgson has. It would have been a lot more odious but Harry had Spurs playing some decent attacking football at times Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Who are best English club managers atm? Hughes, Pulis and Bruce? Speaks volumes that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Who are best English club managers atm? Hughes, Pulis and Bruce? Speaks volumes that. Well two are Welsh for starters Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Who are best English club managers atm? Hughes, Pulis and Bruce? Speaks volumes that. And two of them aren't English. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.S.R. Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Hughes is Welsh Edit: And surprisingly so it Pulis. He doesn't sound it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.S.R. Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 English managers are either gobby chancers or dull as dishwater. The likes of Big Sam, Harry and Pardew would be conning old ladies out their life savings if they didn't have a career in football Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Well, fuck That pretty much makes Bruce the best English manager then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Who are best English club managers atm? Hughes, Pulis and Bruce? Speaks volumes that. It does. I think too many English players at top level retire and live it up. Booze, the golf course, the Caribbean, wherever. Can't blame them too much for that. At the same time I think club's attach too much significance to playing careers in making managerial appointments. Honestly, if it had to be an English coach I'd give it to Hoddle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Spain, Germany, Italy, Netherlands, France - none of these countries would entertain the idea of a foreign coach, and none have had one for a very long time. I don't think England should be any different in that approach personally, given our resources and the strength of our domestic competition. Doing otherwise is a tacit acceptance that our coaching isn't good enough, not something I'd want to be doing ideally. But that's because those countries you've listed have had relative success. England haven't in God knows how long. Your coaching isn't good enough, that should be obvious. The system needs fresh ideas, it needs continental ideas. The Premier League is strong yet it is dominated by foreign managers because they're better than English managers. It should be no surprise then that an international coach would be better for the National team setup, because the local coaches aren't good enough. A German is coaching the American National team. If a German can coach the American one then I don't see why they can't coach the English one because the local coaches aren't good enough for either countries. Yes, international competitions are about national pride and identity but is there much pride is doing it your own way and not achieving any success? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Well, who are the best three English managers? Are any of the them currently working in the Premier League? Or any top league? If the answers make you wince, it's time to swallow your pride and hire a German or Scotsman. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 For similar reasons to why the nationality of the players do. Arseholes like Shola Ameobi and Diego Costa muddying the waters not withstanding. Shola Ameobi is hardly is hardly comparable to Diego Costa for goodness sake. I still think that the best English manager is Steve McLaren, tbh. It's a shame about 2008, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Hoddle is the best manager we've had since Sir Bob imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Well, who are the best three English managers? Are any of the them currently working in the Premier League? Or any top league? If the answers make you wince, it's time to swallow your pride and hire a German or Scotsman. Next season the English managers in the Premier League will be Pardew, Bruce, Redknapp, Dyche, Pearson, Alladyce and Gary Monk. Doesn't exactly fill you with confidence. I would say the best 3 would be: Dyche, Redknapp and Bruce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicago_shearer Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 It may be more difficult for ex-English players to break through in management. I don't buy this idea that they are all thick, 80s style long ball merchants, particularly those that played under some of the best managers in the world. Deschamps didn't spend 5 years managing lower league sides and "learning his trade." Monaco, Juventus, Marseille. Difficult to imagine an ex-England player getting a chance in the top division like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Has anybody read Glenn Hoddle's World Cup book? He really knew what he was doing, Eileen Drewery and his thoughts on the disabled aside. We'd have troubled most teams if we'd got past those pesky Argies Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 It may be more difficult for ex-English players to break through in management. I don't buy this idea that they are all thick, 80s style long ball merchants, particularly those that played under some of the best managers in the world. Deschamps didn't spend 5 years managing lower league sides and "learning his trade." Monaco, Juventus, Marseille. Difficult to imagine an ex-England player getting a chance in the top division like that. Shearer? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 The job of national manager rarely goes to some big name in Country X that has taken the league by storm. Too much studying of league records as usual. Klinsmann had no managerial experience whatsoever, Low had a bit but not high level success. The difference between league management and national is so vast that it's hardly the same job. To be honest, if Gary Neville said he wanted the job, I'd go for it. Sink or swim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Hoddle is the best manager we've had since Sir Bob imo. Sir Bobby wasn't a good England manager mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I see that Gerrard is undecided on his future. What you need is a manager who will decide his future for him. JK didn't wait for Landycakes to call it a day, neither should Hodgson wait for Gerrard's decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Hodgson has said he wants Gerrard to stay on, which should be the end of Roy as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Redknapp would have done a better job tha hodgson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Spain, Germany, Italy, Netherlands, France - none of these countries would entertain the idea of a foreign coach, and none have had one for a very long time. I don't think England should be any different in that approach personally, given our resources and the strength of our domestic competition. Doing otherwise is a tacit acceptance that our coaching isn't good enough, not something I'd want to be doing ideally. But your coaching isn't good enough. That should be clear by now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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