AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Are Setanta Ireland the only people showing this? Livesportontv.com doesn't list any other coverage. It's on ITV. I've sometimes found that site misses fixtures on terrestial TV for some reason. Oh right, thanks. It did seem a bit weird. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen927 Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Request for the England team to wear poppies has been denied by FIFA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sydneycove Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Request for the England team to wear poppies has been denied by FIFA. I don't get why they don't just wear armbands or/and have a special training kit and flog that off at auction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Should just wear them anyway. Ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Are Setanta Ireland the only people showing this? Livesportontv.com doesn't list any other coverage. It's on ITV. I've sometimes found that site misses fixtures on terrestial TV for some reason. i found it to be pretty awful when using it last season, frequently misses games every day, even your 4pm sunday kick offs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I've bought a poppy for the England game, in fact I've bought two. Not going to wear them, just stick the pins in my eyes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Are Setanta Ireland the only people showing this? Livesportontv.com doesn't list any other coverage. It's on ITV. I've sometimes found that site misses fixtures on terrestial TV for some reason. i found it to be pretty awful when using it last season, frequently misses games every day, even your 4pm sunday kick offs. It used to be absolutely spot on and never missed a fixture but over the last year or so it's gone to shit. Regularly misses fixtures off, repeats others twice, has games on the wrong day. No idea what's gone on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 I think the poppy is something of an exception as a symbol, but I can also see the difficulty that FIFA would have in keeping it as an exception if they then get similar requests from other countries. There are other ways of commemorating Remembrance weekend at the match. Rather than make a fuss over a proposal which we've not put forward for the previous 90+ years, we should draw a line under this particular issue. We're in danger of wallowing in a sense of moral superiority, which is one of our least attractive features in the eyes of other nations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 FA should just tell the players to wear them and just pay the fkn fine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Why do they want to wear them now all of a sudden? Surely there are other ways to show respect? Although, I suspect it's easier to simply wear a flower than to actually attempt to modify your behaviour or actually, y'know, do something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Why do they want to wear them now all of a sudden? Surely there are other ways to show respect? Although, I suspect it's easier to simply wear a flower than to actually attempt to modify your behaviour or actually, y'know, do something. part of the post diana hysteria. much more important to be seen to do a tiny little than to actually do a great deal in private.........it's all about appearances. no need for poppies on the england shirt through the last century, why now ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Wearing a poppy is "doing something" though. The whole point of the appeal is to raise awareness as well as raising money. I don't see that they are "needed" on the England shirt, but I don't see why they shouldn't wear them if they want to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Wearing a poppy is "doing something" though. The whole point of the appeal is to raise awareness as well as raising money. I don't see that they are "needed" on the England shirt, but I don't see why they shouldn't wear them if they want to. how much would the british legion draw in if people didn't get a poppy to say "look at me everyone, i'm a caring person", like i say it's all about appearance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Wearing a poppy is "doing something" though. The whole point of the appeal is to raise awareness as well as raising money. I don't see that they are "needed" on the England shirt, but I don't see why they shouldn't wear them if they want to. how much would the british legion draw in if people didn't get a poppy to say "look at me everyone, i'm a caring person", like i say it's all about appearance. Don't understand what you mean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Wearing a poppy is "doing something" though. The whole point of the appeal is to raise awareness as well as raising money. I don't see that they are "needed" on the England shirt, but I don't see why they shouldn't wear them if they want to. how much would the british legion draw in if people didn't get a poppy to say "look at me everyone, i'm a caring person", like i say it's all about appearance. Don't understand what you mean. if people didn't get a poppy for making a donation i don't think nearly as many people would contribute, hence they are paying to be able to say "look at me, i'm a caring person" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Wearing a poppy is "doing something" though. The whole point of the appeal is to raise awareness as well as raising money. I don't see that they are "needed" on the England shirt, but I don't see why they shouldn't wear them if they want to. how much would the british legion draw in if people didn't get a poppy to say "look at me everyone, i'm a caring person", like i say it's all about appearance. Don't understand what you mean. if people didn't get a poppy for making a donation i don't think nearly as many people would contribute, hence they are paying to be able to say "look at me, i'm a caring person" Ah right, I see. Well I suppose you've got a point, they wouldn't give out poppies if they didn't encourage people to donate. But that's a bit like criticising Children in Need for putting on a TV show or Lance Armstrong for selling those armbands... obviously they do it to raise money. On the other hand, the poppy appeal is also about remembering people who died, so displaying the poppy and raising awareness also helps with that. Your first point is probably right, but I don't think the logic quite follows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest johnson293 Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 FA should just tell the players to wear them and just pay the fkn fine According to Radio this morning, FIFA have instructed the officials to stop the game and leave the pitch if the England Players wear the poppies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 FA should just tell the players to wear them and just pay the fkn fine According to Radio this morning, FIFA have instructed the officials to stop the game and leave the pitch if the England Players wear the poppies. Yeh , that won't happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Wearing a poppy is "doing something" though. The whole point of the appeal is to raise awareness as well as raising money. I don't see that they are "needed" on the England shirt, but I don't see why they shouldn't wear them if they want to. how much would the british legion draw in if people didn't get a poppy to say "look at me everyone, i'm a caring person", like i say it's all about appearance. Don't understand what you mean. if people didn't get a poppy for making a donation i don't think nearly as many people would contribute, hence they are paying to be able to say "look at me, i'm a caring person" Ah right, I see. Well I suppose you've got a point, they wouldn't give out poppies if they didn't encourage people to donate. But that's a bit like criticising Children in Need for putting on a TV show or Lance Armstrong for selling those armbands... obviously they do it to raise money. On the other hand, the poppy appeal is also about remembering people who died, so displaying the poppy and raising awareness also helps with that. Your first point is probably right, but I don't think the logic quite follows. it's just that sort of thing has taken a massive hysterical leap since diana, check out any scene of death and the floral tributes etc now are often ridiculous. it's not enough to feel loss, people now need to be seen to feel it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Ok ignoring FIFA being dicks, here's radical formation Hart Johnson Terry Jagielka Cole Barry Parker Milner Lampard Walcott Bent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Harper Simpson S.Taylor Perch R.Taylor Guthrie Gosling Smith Sammy Shola Ranger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 I would rather play Richardson ahead of Smith, or even Tavernier at LB, move R.Taylor to RM and let Guthrie play in the middle. Fuck Alan Smith. Bar that, yeah, I'd rather watch that team than the dross that will be on show for the next friendlies. Reckon Sweden are going to win as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Harper Simpson S.Taylor Perch R.Taylor Guthrie Gosling Smith Sammy Shola Ranger Why wouldn't you just put Gosling at RM? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Ok ignoring FIFA being dicks, here's radical formation Hart Johnson Terry Jagielka Cole Barry Parker Milner Lampard Walcott Bent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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