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i'm english but since 1990 have had absolutely nothing but utter disdain for the england international scene - there can not be a nation that has failed to meet it's expectations so consistently, if there is i'd love to know who

 

i'd honestly say it's a steady decline and all since sky took over football and it'll keep going that way until someone has the balls to take it back

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I think it's fair to say that a lot of nations (not just Ireland, Scotland, Wales, N.Ireland) like beating us as I wouldn't say the English are very well-liked globally.  I doubt that any team would raise their game against us though.

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i'm english but since 1990 have had absolutely nothing but utter disdain for the england international scene - there can not be a nation that has failed to meet it's expectations so consistently, if there is i'd love to know who

 

i'd honestly say it's a steady decline and all since sky took over football and it'll keep going that way until someone has the balls to take it back

 

You must have enjoyed Euro 96 surely?

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i'm english but since 1990 have had absolutely nothing but utter disdain for the england international scene - there can not be a nation that has failed to meet it's expectations so consistently, if there is i'd love to know who

 

i'd honestly say it's a steady decline and all since sky took over football and it'll keep going that way until someone has the balls to take it back

 

You must have enjoyed Euro 96 surely?

 

yes and no, i enjoyed it for what it was but in terms of england i was stood about in the pubs watching people go batshit about england when it was clear they were never the best team in it...bit like brazil this summer

 

as i've got older i've warmed to england more, back then i had zero national sentiment, arguably negative tbh

 

EDIT: in fact i'd say since about 1990 until recently i only ever paid attention to toon players playing for england, beyond that i didn't care and still don't

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i'm english but since 1990 have had absolutely nothing but utter disdain for the england international scene - there can not be a nation that has failed to meet it's expectations so consistently, if there is i'd love to know who

 

i'd honestly say it's a steady decline and all since sky took over football and it'll keep going that way until someone has the balls to take it back

 

You must have enjoyed Euro 96 surely?

 

yes and no, i enjoyed it for what it was but in terms of england i was stood about in the pubs watching people go batshit about england when it was clear they were never the best team in it...bit like brazil this summer

 

as i've got older i've warmed to england more, back then i had zero national sentiment, arguably negative tbh

 

EDIT: in fact i'd say since about 1990 until recently i only ever paid attention to toon players playing for england, beyond that i didn't care and still don't

 

What's wrong with that like?

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i'm english but since 1990 have had absolutely nothing but utter disdain for the england international scene - there can not be a nation that has failed to meet it's expectations so consistently, if there is i'd love to know who

 

i'd honestly say it's a steady decline and all since sky took over football and it'll keep going that way until someone has the balls to take it back

 

You must have enjoyed Euro 96 surely?

 

yes and no, i enjoyed it for what it was but in terms of england i was stood about in the pubs watching people go batshit about england when it was clear they were never the best team in it...bit like brazil this summer

 

as i've got older i've warmed to england more, back then i had zero national sentiment, arguably negative tbh

 

EDIT: in fact i'd say since about 1990 until recently i only ever paid attention to toon players playing for england, beyond that i didn't care and still don't

 

What's wrong with that like?

 

i explained it in the next sentence i think, not that there's anything wrong with it of course i've just never been in the billy england camp...always wanted the best football/team to win, in fact i'd say i still do

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This still going on?

 

Can't we all just agree that England's a much better country with an underachieving team and nobody hates Ireland.

I'd agree with that.  Can't see the inferiors agreeing though[emoji6]

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This still going on?

 

Can't we all just agree that England's a much better country with an underachieving team and nobody hates Ireland.

I'd agree with that.  Can't see the inferiors agreeing though[emoji6]

 

too busy tarmacking, lets just unilaterally agree to call it a day

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This still going on?

 

Can't we all just agree that England's a much better country with an underachieving team and nobody hates Ireland.

I know I'm biting but why exactly is England a much better country?

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This still going on?

 

Can't we all just agree that England's a much better country with an underachieving team and nobody hates Ireland.

I know I'm biting but why exactly is England a much better country?

 

Don't bite.

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This still going on?

 

Can't we all just agree that England's a much better country with an underachieving team and nobody hates Ireland.

I'd agree with that.  Can't see the inferiors agreeing though[emoji6]

 

too busy tarmacking, lets just unilaterally agree to call it a day

Oh look silly mojo has taken the obvious satire as real views[emoji38]

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In Lampard's case, for a midfielder to be his club's all-time leading goalscorer is a fantastic feat, even though his team were nearly always much better than the opposition. He was an outstanding finisher.

 

Gerrard though could produce moments that would take your breath away - like that equalising goal from 35 yards against West Ham in the Cup Final. That combination of power and skill sets him above the rest IMO.

 

Absolutely convinced that if you looked through Lampard's catalogue of goals, you would find goals of that calibre in there.

 

Of course you would. Lampard scored a long list of sensational strikes, remember in particular one he kindly plonked in the top corner at Goodison after being given it from a throw-in.

 

Gerrard however has the Captain Liverpool romanticism surrounding him which falsely puts him above Lampard. It's pathetic.

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At least 100 of Lampard's goals were lucky deflections and about another 50 penalties.

 

Nah, he was a fantastic club player and was probably the best in the business in his role for a good few years.  Also parts of his game were always under rated like his range of passing and even his tackling.  Ridiclous amount of assists aswell for a CM.

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