David Icke - Son of God Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Would you rather a stupidly rich owner who would allow us to bounce back from relegation pretty quickly but wouldn't appoint Shearer, or an owner who was moderately rich and would appoint Big Al but wouldn't set us apart from the crowd when it comes to Championship spending? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Stupid rich owner every time. I still don't know what kind of manager Shearer is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J7 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 I want the best manager for us. Doesnt matter who it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Shearer and respectable backing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TêteDeMaure Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 INSANE money. Shearer as a manager we just don't know how it will end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Depends on who we'd get if it wasn't Shearer. Would anyone want Kinnear, even with a shitload of cash? I wouldn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Money with a shite manager is pointless, as proven during the Souness era, so for me it has to be Shearer. Moyes is a great example of what can be acheived with a good, sensible system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakie Doke Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Souness wasn't actually that bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliMag Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Souness wasn't actually that bad. Yes, he was. The only reason we weren't relegated was because he started with a pretty good team built by SBR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 If we couldn't be set apart from the crowd when it comes to Championship spending, I'd be seriously worried about the financial clout of the new owner(s)! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Souness wasn't actually that bad. Get the fuck out of my thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Souness wasn't actually that bad. Post of the year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Money with a shite manager is pointless, as proven during the Souness era, so for me it has to be Shearer. Moyes is a great example of what can be acheived with a good, sensible system. The quality of the other manager isn't specified, just the fact it isn't Shearer. Think of it as a roll of the dice by the new owners - could be better, could be worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Shearer and decent money. A few additions to the current squad plus a good manager and we'll be flying up the league! The money factor on really kicks in when/if we re-enter the Premiership.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Stupidly rich owner obviously, Shearer could easily turn out to be Greame Souness mk2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Stupidly rich owner obviously, Shearer could easily turn out to be Greame Souness mk2 He could easily turn out to be Sir Bobby Robson mk2. We've got fuck all to base it on. Personally, i'd rather not be shitting cash - cos it's pretty much everything i go against when it comes to modern day football. I'd like to have enough money to survive and get there through skill, quality and graft - a nice balance, like the Bobby era. I know it's thoroughly idealistic, but i just hate how you have to be mega-rich nowadays to achieve any form of success. I'd quite happily take a moderately wealthy owner, with Shearer as boss - if those are the options. But the reasoning for that leans towards the first half of the deal, rather than the second half. I don't want to see us turn into an utterly deplorable parasite like Chelsea or City. Not too fussed on Shearer... love him to pieces obviously but if we can appoint someone who's proven to be a good manager ahead of him, i won't cry into my pillow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBG Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Souness wasn't actually that bad. Yes, he was. The only reason we weren't relegated was because he started with a pretty good team built by SBR. And that he didn't lose in his first 10 games if I remember rightly. Winning most of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Stupidly rich owner obviously, Shearer could easily turn out to be Greame Souness mk2 He could easily turn out to be Sir Bobby Robson mk2. We've got f*** all to base it on. Personally, i'd rather not be shitting cash - cos it's pretty much everything i go against when it comes to modern day football. I'd like to have enough money to survive and get there through skill, quality and graft - a nice balance, like the Bobby era. I know it's thoroughly idealistic, but i just hate how you have to be mega-rich nowadays to achieve any form of success. I'd quite happily take a moderately wealthy owner, with Shearer as boss - if those are the options. But the reasoning for that leans towards the first half of the deal, rather than the second half. I don't want to see us turn into an utterly deplorable parasite like Chelsea or City. Not too fussed on Shearer... love him to pieces obviously but if we can appoint someone who's proven to be a good manager ahead of him, i won't cry into my pillow. which is why chosing him over an awful lot of money is madness, surely you knew what I meant Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Stupidly rich owner obviously, Shearer could easily turn out to be Greame Souness mk2 He could easily turn out to be Sir Bobby Robson mk2. We've got f*** all to base it on. Personally, i'd rather not be shitting cash - cos it's pretty much everything i go against when it comes to modern day football. I'd like to have enough money to survive and get there through skill, quality and graft - a nice balance, like the Bobby era. I know it's thoroughly idealistic, but i just hate how you have to be mega-rich nowadays to achieve any form of success. I'd quite happily take a moderately wealthy owner, with Shearer as boss - if those are the options. But the reasoning for that leans towards the first half of the deal, rather than the second half. I don't want to see us turn into an utterly deplorable parasite like Chelsea or City. Not too fussed on Shearer... love him to pieces obviously but if we can appoint someone who's proven to be a good manager ahead of him, i won't cry into my pillow. which is why chosing him over an awful lot of money is madness, surely you knew what I meant Aye, well i do now. I'd rather put my faith in Shearer, with a so-so-rich owner - than succumb to the apparant necessity to be uber-wealthy in today's English game. Like i said in my post... the first part of the deal is what's imporant to me. Either be mega-rich scum like Chelsea or City, or try and battle it out through skill and graft (in all footballing departments), like we did under Bobby. In our current situation, the choice of manager isn't as relevant as those issues, for me. There's absolutely no way we require a mega-rich owner to get out of this division. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 I don't think there is any pride to be had in 'doing it the hard way' in modern football, especially as i'm not entirely convinced you can do it the hard way now. Maybe half a decade ago when it was still possible to make a dent on the league without huge funding it was but now it seems suicidal to shun the idea of a rich owner. Nowadays teams are capable of being rich and not instantly being the spawn of the devil - take Villa for example. I'm not excusing it as I think it's an awful way for football to be ran but for success it's the only way. I ideally want to see Newcastle win something as soon as possible and if stupid amounts of cash are needed to do that then so be it. It certainly wouldn't take the shine of success. The Robson era was nice, but you've got to remember we were one of the better funded sides in the league at a time when the top three or four was breakable and prices weren't as high. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 I don't think there is any pride to be had in 'doing it the hard way' in modern football. Maybe half a decade ago when it was still possible to make a dent on the league without huge funding it was but now it seems suicidal to shun the idea of a rich owner. Nowadays teams are capable of being rich and not instantly being the spawn of the devil - take Villa for example. I'm not excusing it as I think it's an awful way for football to be ran but for success it's the only way. I ideally want to see Newcastle win something as soon as possible and if stupid amounts of cash are needed to do that then so be it. It certainly wouldn't take the shine of success. I'd certainly be happy with the way Villa have done things. Yes, they've still spent decent money but it's seemed much more respectable IMO - buying a number of young and/or English players for example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 I'm sorry but I couldn't disagree more with you Dave. It would be lovely to buy a bunch of young lads and nurture them ala Aston Villa, but watching City makes me envious, someone broke down their spending, and the owners wealth is like 50 billion or something. They converted that to if it was an average 30,000 a year wage, and the likes of Barry cost 65p or something daft. I want money and the best players now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Fair enough. I think what City are doing (well, trying to do seeing as none of the best players are taking them seriously) is pathetic and disgusting. Where's the soul? Absolutely typical of today's 'I want it now, but without putting any time or effort in whatsoever' society tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 I'm sorry but I couldn't disagree more with you Dave. It would be lovely to buy a bunch of young lads and nurture them ala Aston Villa, but watching City makes me envious, someone broke down their spending, and the owners wealth is like 50 billion or something. They converted that to if it was an average 30,000 a year wage, and the likes of Barry cost 65p or something daft. I want money and the best players now. Nah. Sorry but the thought of Newcastle carrying on like City disgusts me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 City are in danger of becoming an absolute joke in the football world and one that players will get ridiculed for joining. Puyol now? Honestly, what a bunch of wankers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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