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leffe186

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I see alot more discussion of wages and how much worth players have on here nowadays, but I don't see many "We should keep him as he's cheap" or "Get rid of him, he's on too much" ???

 

You'll not have seen the Alan Smith thread then.

 

IIRC there was a fair bit of wage discussion after relegation, and understandably so.

 

FWIW here's what one Arsenal fan apparently said about wages:

 

""Arsenal's year ending 09/10 shows the spending on wages at £111m, marginally (approx £20m) below Man Utd and City, with Chelsea being the top spenders.

 

If we look down the list we will see Spurs at £67m for the same period.

 

This is an extraordinary statistic and it needs some pause for reflection : Arsenal spent £44 million more than Spurs on wages in one financial year.

 

This is shocking.

 

Many gooners complain that Spurs seem to outspend us in the transfer market (which they do) and many neutrals and gooners alike think that Arsenal's brilliant book balancing in the transfer market is one of the main reasons why he should not be sacked.

 

At the same time we all know that the addition of 3 or 4 good quality players would probably be the difference in winning the league this season and possibly 2 or 3 previous seasons in the last 5 years.

 

So the question is two-fold :

 

a) why does Arsene spend so much money on wages and

 

b) why do Spurs spend so little?

 

The fact that Arsenal reward their huge swathes of mediocrity should be a source of grave concern amongst us fans. Players like Rosicky on £80k per week, and on a long contract, Denilson, Bendtner, Diaby & Almunia not being far behind is criminal.

 

Spurs on the other hand pay a top whack of £60k per week and the top earner is Robbie Keane and he is currently off the wage bill altogether! OK, perhaps it is not going to be possible for Spurs to remain with such a low top wage, especially if they want to keep some of their best players such as Bale & Van Der Vaart, but what it shows is that Arsene has totally lost it.

 

He is wasting millions and millions of pounds on garbage players and this is restricting him from spending that money on better players. Make no mistake, this is his decision and his alone."

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Cronky

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I see alot more discussion of wages and how much worth players have on here nowadays, but I don't see many "We should keep him as he's cheap" or "Get rid of him, he's on too much" ???

 

You'll not have seen the Alan Smith thread then.

 

IIRC there was a fair bit of wage discussion after relegation, and understandably so.

 

FWIW here's what one Arsenal fan apparently said about wages:

 

""Arsenal's year ending 09/10 shows the spending on wages at £111m, marginally (approx £20m) below Man Utd and City, with Chelsea being the top spenders.

 

If we look down the list we will see Spurs at £67m for the same period.

 

This is an extraordinary statistic and it needs some pause for reflection : Arsenal spent £44 million more than Spurs on wages in one financial year.

 

This is shocking.

 

Many gooners complain that Spurs seem to outspend us in the transfer market (which they do) and many neutrals and gooners alike think that Arsenal's brilliant book balancing in the transfer market is one of the main reasons why he should not be sacked.

 

At the same time we all know that the addition of 3 or 4 good quality players would probably be the difference in winning the league this season and possibly 2 or 3 previous seasons in the last 5 years.

 

So the question is two-fold :

 

a) why does Arsene spend so much money on wages and

 

b) why do Spurs spend so little?

 

The fact that Arsenal reward their huge swathes of mediocrity should be a source of grave concern amongst us fans. Players like Rosicky on £80k per week, and on a long contract, Denilson, Bendtner, Diaby & Almunia not being far behind is criminal.

 

Spurs on the other hand pay a top whack of £60k per week and the top earner is Robbie Keane and he is currently off the wage bill altogether! OK, perhaps it is not going to be possible for Spurs to remain with such a low top wage, especially if they want to keep some of their best players such as Bale & Van Der Vaart, but what it shows is that Arsene has totally lost it.

 

He is wasting millions and millions of pounds on garbage players and this is restricting him from spending that money on better players. Make no mistake, this is his decision and his alone."

 

The whingeing gooner is one of the strangest phenomena of modern football. They've got a great stadium, play great football, they're second in the league with a reasonable chance of winning it, they enjoy regular Champions League football, but their manager has supposedly 'lost it'.

 

The problem seems to be that because Wenger brought them league titles before, it's a disaster when it doesn't continue to happen. Past success becoming an accusing finger.

 

I love the way that bloke talks about adding '3 or 4 good quality players' as though it's a matter of going down to Tesco's and handing over the cash. Players that are better than the ones they've got are not in plentiful supply, and will be chased by other major clubs as well.

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Punk77

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Nice to hear. I understand both parties actually. Everything depends on our survival in PL. As soon as the place is secured, I think NUFC will give him the the extra contract year he's requesting.

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mentioned a bit of this in the pardew thread but mate from work went to a talk in with Joey last night and here's the snippets from the email i got today about what was said....

 

On his contract -

I can honestly tell you I want to stop here, I know you hear this all the

time, but I generally so, whether you believe me or not.... The idiots who

run the club keep moving the goalposts, they have offered me to take a pay

cut - I'm nobodies mug and the idiots who run the show haven't got a clue..

If I don't get what I want I will still stop here and let my contract run

down, love it here, and Alan Pardew is working his b*ll*cks off to get me

the deal I want.

 

On Pardew -

He is a cracking bloke and a great manager and coach, I hope the fans can

give him time and see what he can do, people think he's Ashley puppet, I

can tell you he most defiantly isn't anyones puppet and he isn't scared to

stand up to anyone at the club, I love working with him.

 

On Shearer -

I have a hell of a lot of respect for the man as a player, he was great,

but mmm we don't get on, we never will, I was recently out with a few of

the lads and he was there, we didn't say a word to each other all night,

just a wink and a nod.. Fantastic player but wasn't so good as a manager...

when I was at Man City Robbie Fowler was my role model - haha.. He was a

great player too, never scored as many penalties as Shearer though.... Ha.

 

 

 

On That bust up at Anfield.

We were 3-0 down and I f*cking hate that Alonso, I hate the c*nt... so I

thought right, here we go... it was a very bad tackle and a very bad thing to

do, I know that.. When I was in the dressing room Shearer stormed in after

the game pointing the finger and shouting you are a coward! Nobody calls me

a coward, if he had attacked me with regards to my football I would of

accepted my b*ll*cking, but he attacked me personally, I can tell you now

if anyone in here want to call me a coward I will take you into the car

park here and now, nobody calls me that.. Anyway yes there was a bit argy

bargy and we haven't got on since.

 

 

 

Who is your most hated current Player -

At the moment Carl Henry at wolves, what he done down there early in the

season, I wished I had digged him like I did Pederson the other month, I

really do... I know Mick McCarthy had told him to try and get me sent off,

anyway I kept calling him Chris, and pretending not to know who he was

after the game to wind him up.

 

On that 5-1 against mackems -

Unbelievable, an amazing day that will stop with me for the rest of my life.

 

 

On Nile Ranger -

I can tell you he is the thickest man I have ever met in my life, he hasn't got a single brain cell, dopey as hell.

 

 

On Enrique, will he stop -

I'm stopping, that's all that matters to me, if he wants to go, go.. I'm

not bothered.. He is the most vainest man I have ever met, honestly he is

terrible, he cannot walk past a mirror with out checking himself out, I

don't know why, he's an ugly Spanish c*nt anyway.

 

What happened after that heavy defeat at Leyton orient pre- season -

We got hammered 6-0, after the game we spoke about what we need to do to

get this club back up in the premier league and who is up for the battle,

I'm not going to name names here, but some didn't want to be here and

couldn't care less, I want tell you who they are... "come on Joey, we want

names".. Hmmm, okay right, I will tell you 2 of them, 2 names only, that

f*cking Bassong and f*cking Martins, disgrace they are, total disgrace...

anyway, the next morning after the match, me and a few of the lads

confronted those who didn't want to be there and, well, I basically told

them to piss off out of this club and never to come back.

 

On this side now -

Look, I believe we are a good football team, get behind us, we will be alright..

 

 

On Andy Carroll -

£35 million, I would of sold him as well, no doubt about it.

 

Finishing off -

When I speak, I speak my mind and tell the truth, I hope all of you here

can believe everything I have said tonight as I don't talk shite and tell things how they are.

 

 

 

 

 

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SUPERTOON

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mentioned a bit of this in the pardew thread but mate from work went to a talk in with Joey last night and here's the snippets from the email i got today about what was said....

 

On his contract -

I can honestly tell you I want to stop here, I know you hear this all the

time, but I generally so, whether you believe me or not.... The idiots who

run the club keep moving the goalposts, they have offered me to take a pay

cut - I'm nobodies mug and the idiots who run the show haven't got a clue..

If I don't get what I want I will still stop here and let my contract run

down, love it here, and Alan Pardew is working his b*ll*cks off to get me

the deal I want.

 

On Pardew -

He is a cracking bloke and a great manager and coach, I hope the fans can

give him time and see what he can do, people think he's Ashley puppet, I

can tell you he most defiantly isn't anyones puppet and he isn't scared to

stand up to anyone at the club, I love working with him.

 

On Shearer -

I have a hell of a lot of respect for the man as a player, he was great,

but mmm we don't get on, we never will, I was recently out with a few of

the lads and he was there, we didn't say a word to each other all night,

just a wink and a nod.. Fantastic player but wasn't so good as a manager...

when I was at Man City Robbie Fowler was my role model - haha.. He was a

great player too, never scored as many penalties as Shearer though.... Ha.

 

 

 

On That bust up at Anfield.

We were 3-0 down and I f*cking hate that Alonso, I hate the c*nt... so I

thought right, here we go... it was a very bad tackle and a very bad thing to

do, I know that.. When I was in the dressing room Shearer stormed in after

the game pointing the finger and shouting you are a coward! Nobody calls me

a coward, if he had attacked me with regards to my football I would of

accepted my b*ll*cking, but he attacked me personally, I can tell you now

if anyone in here want to call me a coward I will take you into the car

park here and now, nobody calls me that.. Anyway yes there was a bit argy

bargy and we haven't got on since.

 

 

 

Who is your most hated current Player -

At the moment Carl Henry at wolves, what he done down there early in the

season, I wished I had digged him like I did Pederson the other month, I

really do... I know Mick McCarthy had told him to try and get me sent off,

anyway I kept calling him Chris, and pretending not to know who he was

after the game to wind him up.

 

On that 5-1 against mackems -

Unbelievable, an amazing day that will stop with me for the rest of my life.

 

 

On Nile Ranger -

I can tell you he is the thickest man I have ever met in my life, he hasn't got a single brain cell, dopey as hell.

 

 

On Enrique, will he stop -

I'm stopping, that's all that matters to me, if he wants to go, go.. I'm

not bothered.. He is the most vainest man I have ever met, honestly he is

terrible, he cannot walk past a mirror with out checking himself out, I

don't know why, he's an ugly Spanish c*nt anyway.

 

What happened after that heavy defeat at Leyton orient pre- season -

We got hammered 6-0, after the game we spoke about what we need to do to

get this club back up in the premier league and who is up for the battle,

I'm not going to name names here, but some didn't want to be here and

couldn't care less, I want tell you who they are... "come on Joey, we want

names".. Hmmm, okay right, I will tell you 2 of them, 2 names only, that

f*cking Bassong and f*cking Martins, disgrace they are, total disgrace...

anyway, the next morning after the match, me and a few of the lads

confronted those who didn't want to be there and, well, I basically told

them to p*ss off out of this club and never to come back.

 

On this side now -

Look, I believe we are a good football team, get behind us, we will be alright..

 

 

On Andy Carroll -

£35 million, I would of sold him as well, no doubt about it.

 

Finishing off -

When I speak, I speak my mind and tell the truth, I hope all of you here

can believe everything I have said tonight as I don't talk s**** and tell things how they are.

 

 

 

 

 

 

:mackems: Where the hell did you make that up from.

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Skirge

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I was at that. All of the stuff you'd think is bullshit...is bullshit.

 

It's all essentially an overdramatisation of what he actually said.

 

So what did he actually say about Jose & Nile ?

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JH

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I was at that. All of the stuff you'd think is bullshit...is bullshit.

 

It's all essentially an overdramatisation of what he actually said.

 

So what did he actually say about Jose & Nile ?

 

Jose - overpaid, overhyped, undedicated cunt

Nile - cunt

 

:snod:

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Skirge

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I was at that. All of the stuff you'd think is bullshit...is bullshit.

 

It's all essentially an overdramatisation of what he actually said.

 

So what did he actually say about Jose & Nile ?

 

Jose - overpaid, overhyped, undedicated cunt

Nile - cunt

 

:snod:

:lol:

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