Dinho lad Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Now Manchester United, there's a team that would be absolutely screwed by a two-window ban. I think they'd cope better than chelsea! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 You can bet your mortgage that if Man U are not banned, Chelsea will appeal on the grounds of victimisation and the ban will be overturned ; on the other hand, you can bet your mortgage that FIFA/UEFA will NOT want to take on Man U in a court case if they ARE banned - this will be a damp squib, both clubs will pay a derisory fine after an appeal and things will go on as before..... All this is simply Platini whingeing because French clubs are involved, although he IS right that English clubs spend too much money on foreign talent instead of developing more of their own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Libertine Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Now Manchester United, there's a team that would be absolutely screwed by a two-window ban. tottenham would be better. they change their whole squad every window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 You can bet your mortgage that if Man U are not banned, Chelsea will appeal on the grounds of victimisation and the ban will be overturned ; on the other hand, you can bet your mortgage that FIFA/UEFA will NOT want to take on Man U in a court case if they ARE banned - this will be a damp squib, both clubs will pay a derisory fine after an appeal and things will go on as before..... All this is simply Platini whingeing because French clubs are involved, although he IS right that English clubs spend too much money on foreign talent instead of developing more of their own. I think this is imposed by FIFA whereas Platini is UEFA. If ManU aren't found guilty of the same crime they won't be banned - by the looks of it Roma argued it down to a one-window ban so I wouldn't be surprised if that is the outcome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brummiemag Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 for me, its Fifas Agenda against the premiership big spenders. Its the first dominoe, more will follow. Lets hope so Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kirkpatrick9 Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/article6820875.ece Times reckon Manure are next. Ashley will be phoning Le Havre first thing to see if they can ban us from spending any more money on transfers. There is some poetic justice in Chelsea being banned for tapping, but with Man Utd at least they spend and tap from their own resources and are obligated to repay debts... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 You can bet your mortgage that if Man U are not banned, Chelsea will appeal on the grounds of victimisation and the ban will be overturned ; on the other hand, you can bet your mortgage that FIFA/UEFA will NOT want to take on Man U in a court case if they ARE banned - this will be a damp squib, both clubs will pay a derisory fine after an appeal and things will go on as before..... All this is simply Platini whingeing because French clubs are involved, although he IS right that English clubs spend too much money on foreign talent instead of developing more of their own. They cant do that though. The HAVE already banned Roma and Sion for lesser offences(taking into account previous) so its a massive can of worms to reduce it to a fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Just read that Abramovich wants to back Platini and his plan to allow clubs to only spend what they make. Basically going against what Man City are doing. He must be forgetting that he started all this off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Can't see that Chelsea have any chance with thhis appeal, except maybe on a legal technicality. It's beyond reason that after deciding to ban them FIFA will reconsider. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Think this is just an excuse for Le Havre to harvest money from the bigger clubs, they couldn't give a shit about the player himself. Still, it feels pretty good that the top four teams get some shit from time to time. It isn't Le Havre though. The bigger clubs should have to pay adequate compensation mind, bit of a joke at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Just read that Abramovich wants to back Platini and his plan to allow clubs to only spend what they make. Basically going against what Man City are doing. He must be forgetting that he started all this off. And Chelsea really don't generate enough money to sustain themselves, so he'll need to do it again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Just read that Abramovich wants to back Platini and his plan to allow clubs to only spend what they make. Basically going against what Man City are doing. He must be forgetting that he started all this off. Agree Players prices were levelling out and wages until that shit bag came along Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Just read that Abramovich wants to back Platini and his plan to allow clubs to only spend what they make. Basically going against what Man City are doing. He must be forgetting that he started all this off. And Chelsea really don't generate enough money to sustain themselves, so he'll need to do it again. chelsea can just about sustain themselves, because of all the cash ambromvich's revolution has brought via new sponsership etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Just read that Abramovich wants to back Platini and his plan to allow clubs to only spend what they make. Basically going against what Man City are doing. He must be forgetting that he started all this off. And Chelsea really don't generate enough money to sustain themselves, so he'll need to do it again. chelsea can just about sustain themselves, because of all the cash ambromvich's revolution has brought via new sponsership etc 76M loss in 2008 says they don't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Think this is just an excuse for Le Havre to harvest money from the bigger clubs, they couldn't give a s*** about the player himself. Still, it feels pretty good that the top four teams get some s*** from time to time. Le Havre actually aren't involved in this situation at all. It's Lens, a much bigger club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 I reckon it will get reduced to a 1 transfer window ban - which they should just about cope with Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 I reckon it will get reduced to a 1 transfer window ban - which they should just about cope with Probaly exactly what will happen, probaly just about right tbh. Still, this is the kind of thing that needs to be further exposed. You look at things like this, the Mikel Obi saga (dirty from all sides), and the dealings with minors (especially poor kids from South America and Africa and you realise there is a deeper problem we probaly don't knoe the full story of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 I reckon it will get reduced to a 1 transfer window ban - which they should just about cope with Probaly exactly what will happen, probaly just about right tbh. Still, this is the kind of thing that needs to be further exposed. You look at things like this, the Mikel Obi saga (dirty from all sides), and the dealings with minors (especially poor kids from South America and Africa and you realise there is a deeper problem we probaly don't knoe the full story of. I agree - football is full of "dodgy" dealings so anything that goes some way to eradicating them should be encouraged. Lets hope all the clubs up to no good start getting punishments Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 what is needed is a decent way of compensating the clubs that develop these kids before they are 16 right now they are free agents the moment they reach 16 - and if they sign for ManU then their old club can get nowt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 I'm just relieved that they now won't be able to make a £30M bid for Wor Shola. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Probaly exactly what will happen, probaly just about right tbh. Still, this is the kind of thing that needs to be further exposed. You look at things like this, the Mikel Obi saga (dirty from all sides), and the dealings with minors (especially poor kids from South America and Africa and you realise there is a deeper problem we probaly don't knoe the full story of. WOW TIGER!!!! Lets not muddy the waters here as all Chelsea have done is set a young kid up & his family for life or helped them out big time. It hardly the same as rotten clubs across Europe who get young Africans & South Americans on trial & then let them fend & make there own way if they turn out shit. It would be nice if FIFA & UEFA made clubs register which players they are getting on trial if they that player is not from that country & then either the agent of the player or club have to provide evidence that the player has a means of getting back home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Geordiesned Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 http://www.sundaysun.co.uk/sport/newcastle-utd/2009/09/06/chelsea-transfer-ban-halts-move-for-vuckic-79310-24616358/ Sep 6 2009 by Neil Farrington, Sunday Sun CHELSEA’S new transfer ban has forced them to shelve a move for Newcastle’s Slovenian superkid Haris Vuckic. The Blues have been keeping tabs on Vuckic, who has just turned 17, since late last season. And sources in London have claimed that Chelsea agreed to travel to Tyneside for an Academy friendly against Newcastle last month mainly to get a detailed first-hand view of Vuckic. Several other top clubs across Europe – Real Madrid among them – have been alerted to Vuckic’s dazzling displays for United’s junior and reserve teams. But Newcastle can ill afford to lose a youngster who has broken into the first-team picture at St James’s Park in the opening month of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Man U and Man City are now both getting shit from French clubs over similar accusations. Maybe with us not signing anyone we might end up being the only club not crippled by bans Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 What's the difference between the cases we've seen the last week, and us with N'Zogbia? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie2000 Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 the problem wasn't with us signing him, it was to do with how much training compensation was paid, IIRC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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