Tamas Kadar

[Wilson]

he's done pardews wife or summit imo

[TRon]

Well that taught him the little shitrag. With our 5ft 8 centre back stand ins we've surely sent a message to the unruly youngster that he's well down the pecking order.

 

 

[Doctor Zaius]

Obviously nowhere near the standard required. If he cant even get on the bench when we're without a centre half he's not going to make it is he?

 

 

[alexf]

You could argue Santon was "nowhere near the standard required" while R.Taylor was keeping him out the side but we've seen that isn't the case haven't we

[Doctor Zaius]

You could argue Santon was "nowhere near the standard required" while R.Taylor was keeping him out the side but we've seen that isn't the case haven't we

 

Santon came from playing first team football for Inter Milan and was kept out of the side because Pardew didnt want ot disrupt a defence that had been playing so well. Kadar has barely played in the first team, not even sure he's played much in the reserves. He's clearly not good enough unless he would have at least been on the bench.

 

The two situations are utterly incomparable.

[johnnypd]

he's looked okay when i've seen him play, though that was mostly in the championship. can only think of the one bad game he's had, can't remember who it was against though.

 

he earned two caps for Hungary just a few weeks back, albeit against minnow opposition, so it's not like he would've been coming into the fixture having been out for ages. can anyone who has been to reserve games this season comment on his performances?

[Unbelievable]

He was our only recognised, specialist, fit centre back. Pardew not even considering him for a squad position is criminal negligence if you ask me.

[Dave]

He was our only recognised, specialist, fit centre back. Pardew not even considering him for a squad position is criminal negligence if you ask me.

 

Just shows how little we rate his ability and/or attitude. We'll be desperately trying to sell him (or give him away) in January ahead of his contract running out in the summer.

[Disco]

He was our only recognised, specialist, fit centre back. Pardew not even considering him for a squad position is criminal negligence if you ask me.

 

Just shows how little we rate his ability and/or attitude. We'll be desperately trying to sell him (or give him away) in January ahead of his contract running out in the summer.

 

We'll get a fee anyway with his age, non?

[Guest Heneage]

I think he'll stay till his contract runs out. Obviously the staff don't rate him, whether that's down to lack of progression or problems with his attitude we will never know unfortunately.

[Dave]

Still a saving on wages to be had.

[Ronaldo]

Isn't he supposed to be completely aloof and uncommunicative in training?

[Unbelievable]

He was our only recognised, specialist, fit centre back. Pardew not even considering him for a squad position is criminal negligence if you ask me.

 

Just shows how little we rate his ability and/or attitude. We'll be desperately trying to sell him (or give him away) in January ahead of his contract running out in the summer.

 

If that's the case, even more serious questions need to be asked about how we planned to go through the first half of a Premiership season with 3 centre backs, one of whom got seriously injured before the transfer window closed and with no confidence in any of our reserve or youth players coming in and being able of doing a job if needed. It's just incredibly bad management and it's costing us very dear.

 

Also, Kadar used to be seen as a promising youngster and didn't look out of sorts on the few occasions we got to see him. He does not have a documented history of behavioral problems unlike some other youngsters who we've given much more slack in recent years. From what I've read and heard about the reserve matches he has captained the side in recent weeks and done alright, so there's no reason to suspect there's anything seriously wrong in terms of form, fitness or mentality. For that reason to not have him in the squad in our hour of need for me is unforgivable unless we get a plausible explanation.

[Disco]

Didn't he come out and say it was worth knacking himself because he got the block in against the mackem reserves a while back? Surely his attitude can't have changed that much, if it has?

[TRon]

He was our only recognised, specialist, fit centre back. Pardew not even considering him for a squad position is criminal negligence if you ask me.

 

Just shows how little we rate his ability and/or attitude. We'll be desperately trying to sell him (or give him away) in January ahead of his contract running out in the summer.

 

Even if there's a problem between the player and the coaching staff what harm could it have done either side if we'd put it to one side and made use of him when we need him? He might not be a world beater but I don't remember him doing too much wrong when he played for us previously. He should have at least been on the bench, even if he might not have ultimately done any better were he on the pitch it would have made us look less easy prey with a proper central defender involved somewhere.

[Mick]

Didn't he come out and say it was worth knacking himself because he got the block in against the mackem reserves a while back? Surely his attitude can't have changed that much, if it has?

 

Yes he did say that when his leg was broken.

[Sifu]

Like some people have said, looks like we're looking to offload Kadar. The fact he wasn't even on the bench today and Ferguson, a LB/winger, got the place ahead of him speaks volumes.

 

Absolute shame if we do end up getting rid.

[alexf]

You could argue Santon was "nowhere near the standard required" while R.Taylor was keeping him out the side but we've seen that isn't the case haven't we

 

Santon came from playing first team football for Inter Milan and was kept out of the side because Pardew didnt want ot disrupt a defence that had been playing so well. Kadar has barely played in the first team, not even sure he's played much in the reserves. He's clearly not good enough unless he would have at least been on the bench.

 

The two situations are utterly incomparable.

 

OK, but i was just coming at it from the angle that just because Pardew hasn't put his faith in him yet doesn't necessarily mean that he isn't up to standard as i believe Pardew is making some very questionable team selections of late as well as ofcourse the whole Tevez/Mascherano thing at West Ham

[LooneyToonArmy]

Kadar told he can have a Magpies future

 

 

FORGOTTEN man Tamas Kadar has been reassured that he still has a future at Newcastle United - once he has shown he deserves his chance.

 

The young Hungarian has been on stand-by since manager Alan Pardew handed him a squad number, 40, in light of the defensive crisis at the club.

 

But rather than pit the centre-back in to action at Norwich City on Saturday, the Newcastle boss chose to switch right-back Danny Simpson in to the middle to partner James Perch.

 

There is a strong chance that captain Fabricio Coloccini will have recovered to face Swansea City this weekend, but Mike Williamson is unlikely to be match fit to return.

 

And with Steven Taylor ruled out for the rest of the season with Achilles trouble, Pardew knows he is hardly well blessed with defensive cover before he looks at strengthening in next month's transfer window.

 

Kadar is likely to figure in this afternoon's behind-closed-doors reserves game with Bolton, when Pardew will be keeping a close eye on the options he has available to him.

 

"Tamas is an option for us. He has played well for the reserves," said Pardew. "He is a player who has not had many opportunities and is looking to kick start his Newcastle career.

 

"We have had one or two who have come out of the woodwork here, who were supposedly not meant to be in the frame. Ryan Taylor is a prime example. So there is no reason why Tamas can't come into the side and do very, very well."

 

Kadar, 21, has struggled to step up to the first team stage since figuring in a few matches during Newcastle's promotion season in the Championship.

 

He has never been on the losing side for the Magpies in each of his 13 appearances, but with his contract due to expire at the end of the season there is a feeling he is running out of time to stay at St James' Park.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Would have definitely started him against Norwich, and would play him alongside Colo against Swansea too. Unless there's something we don't know about his fitness or attitude.

[Tiresias]

Suspect he may get a chance considering neither Perch nor Simpson acquitted themselves well enough against norwich

[Guest Wally_McFool]

Suspect he may get a chance considering neither Perch nor Simpson acquitted themselves well enough against norwich

 

If hes fit, we have nowt to lose by playing him seeing as  Simpson and Perch were exposed for being what they were (which is too short and out of position)

[binnsy]

Didn't he come out and say it was worth knacking himself because he got the block in against the mackem reserves a while back? Surely his attitude can't have changed that much, if it has?

 

Yes he did say that when his leg was broken.

 

That was one of the best bravest bits of defending i've ever seen, bit of a goalmouth scramble and ball rolls along the goal about 3 yards out, Jordan Henderson comes steaming in to grab what looks like a last minute equaliser with the goal gaping but out of nowhere kadar dives in knocks the ball out and hendersons lunge connects straight into his leg and breaks it. 

[Sifu]

I'm not entirely optimistic that Kadar will stay beyond his current contract like. The fact that he wasn't even on the bench for the Norwich game is worrying signs for the lad. He must have thought that he was in contention for at least a place on the bench considering he was the only fit CB available.

Most of us wanted him to start too though now as it stands, don't think he'll be starting for the first team any time soon. Shame.

[Stu]

I'm not entirely optimistic that Kadar will stay beyond his current contract like. The fact that he wasn't even on the bench for the Norwich game is worrying signs for the lad. He must have thought that he was in contention for at least a place on the bench considering he was the only fit CB available.

Most of us wanted him to start too though now as it stands, don't think he'll be starting for the first team any time soon. Shame.

 

Yet he hadn't been training with the first team squad for months, he's not likely to be rushed straight into the thick of things - it would do his confidence more harm than good.

 

This isn't football manager, if Kadar's attitude or training hasn't been up to standard, we're not suddenly going to go back on everything just because we've not got a recognised CB. Preferred position or not, without the months of training, Premier League standard of fitness/match practice, lack of experience - Kadar is not going to make a difference on his own. This is the real world, not a computer game.

 

If there's a future for him (and I'd like there to be), he needs to do whatever it is that the club want of him in order to be training with the first team squad. First choice (captain, even) for the reserves and 'banging on the managers door' (TM - L.Best) for a match day 18 place.