Are you really going to make a stand?

[Benwell Lad]

Talkshite's reporter for the Hull game is going on about it.  

 

"Wretched naming of the stadium".

"I don't know who's advising the fella, but every week they come out with something, and its like shooting themselves in the foot.  Then the next week they have to come out with something to try and cover it"

"The club is just a shambles.  A mess from top to bottom"

"If someone steps up with the cash, he'll bite their hand off, obviously".

 

Nothing we didn't know like, just thought I'd post it.

 

Ironically, just about everything he said could be applied to the club who's game he was attending and a few others too, however they all still love talking about the "insignificant Newcastle"

[Guest kissmyballs]

I was on the metro last night and some you punks got on at Haymarket. I was with my little one (she's 6) and these neanderthals break into some chant about bonfires/Ashley/Llambias/f***ing burning.  For 15 minutes solid.  There were about 6 of them, aged 20-23 i'd say.  Complete pricks.  You could see the fear/intimidation felt by some of the older folk on the train and their disregard for youngsters on the train. Putting the emphasis on the 'and burn the f***ing lot'. Sometimes it embarrasing being a fan of NUFC. Lads will be lads I guess but if I'd had a snooker ball in a sock I would have had no regret in using them.

 

That's a bit over the top isn't it.

Not really chap if it was just me, snooker ball, sock and those 6 neanderthals in a back lane somewhere. I would not carry out such action within the confines of public transport of course.

So a few daft kids chanting some less than tasteful chants on the Metro is a heinous crime, but assaulting somebody in a back lane with a DIY cosh is OK? Unusual value system you’ve got there.

[Guest kissmyballs]

I was on the metro last night and some you punks got on at Haymarket. I was with my little one (she's 6) and these neanderthals break into some chant about bonfires/Ashley/Llambias/f***ing burning.  For 15 minutes solid.  There were about 6 of them, aged 20-23 i'd say.  Complete pricks.  You could see the fear/intimidation felt by some of the older folk on the train and their disregard for youngsters on the train. Putting the emphasis on the 'and burn the f***ing lot'. Sometimes it embarrasing being a fan of NUFC. Lads will be lads I guess but if I'd had a snooker ball in a sock I would have had no regret in using them.

 

Having seen people on here use expressions like "slurper" and "bum-f***" as a way of communicating their argument nothing should surprise us about the levels they'll sink to.

Legitimate and even insultory protest can be justified and the present Newcastle ownership deserve criticism, but the "Ashley rapist" banner yesterday was a disgrace and going too far, in a stadium where many parents take young children.

Perhaps the "politician fans" who like to organise protests could ask their protesters to do so in a manner which does not offend decent people ?

It was inevitable there would be some form of protest, and that in absence of the more ‘respectable’ leading voices organising anything they would (as you put it) sink to low levels.  I’ll be interested to hear what NUST have to say about  yesterday’s events. They basically washed their hands of the problem and let the Ultras run the show. 

[Pav]

Having seen people on here use expressions like "slurper" and "bum-f***" as a way of communicating their argument nothing should surprise us about the levels they'll sink to.

Legitimate and even insultory protest can be justified and the present Newcastle ownership deserve criticism, but the "Ashley rapist" banner yesterday was a disgrace and going too far, in a stadium where many parents take young children.

Perhaps the "politician fans" who like to organise protests could ask their protesters to do so in a manner which does not offend decent people ?

The word rapist offends 'decent' people? I hope these 'decent' people stay well clear of TVs, Radios, Newspapers, Magazines....get a grip mate. The young children arguement has never washed with me, either. It's not a day out for the family for fucks sake, it's the fucking football. How anyone in this day and age can expect to go to the football and not hear any offensive language is beyond me. Again, get a grip.

 

It was inevitable there would be some form of protest, and that in absence of the more ‘respectable’ leading voices organising anything they would (as you put it) sink to low levels.  I’ll be interested to hear what NUST have to say about  yesterday’s events. They basically washed their hands of the problem and let the Ultras run the show. 

I and few others met with NUST the other night. Obviously nothing was said about the banners, but in general they understood why people would want to protest and wished us the best of luck. They don't want to involve themselves in such things these days, which is fair enough if you ask me. In other words they won't really have anything to say on the matter.

[Guest BooBoo]

Whoever came up with the idea of the rapist banner wants a clip.

[Liam Liam Liam O]

Whoever came up with the idea of the rapist banner wants a clip.

 

It's exactly the sort of thing that is going to mean the stewards having to get involved, and then there will be the accusations that they've been heavy handed in making them taking it down.

 

It's almost like the people who chose & took it were deliberately looking to cause aggravation, isn't it?

[Pav]

Whoever came up with the idea of the rapist banner wants a clip.

 

It's exactly the sort of thing that is going to mean the stewards having to get involved, and then there will be the accusations that they've been heavy handed in making them taking it down.

 

It's almost like the people who chose & took it were deliberately looking to cause aggravation, isn't it?

Why do the stewards have to get involved? A banner in an empty stadium hurts nobody and Ashley doesn't care so where's the problem? Still though, it was obvious it would be took, but it was one of those things where you had to be there. I'm not sure if you've seen the clip of these stewards, but just imagine them charging towards bairns no older than 12 who had a hold of said banner. They didn't even attempt to talk to anyone, they just charged in and began pushing fans about. That's not the job of a steward, they shouldn't be able to lay a finger on anyone. Horrible c***s they are.

[Liam Liam Liam O]

Whoever came up with the idea of the rapist banner wants a clip.

 

It's exactly the sort of thing that is going to mean the stewards having to get involved, and then there will be the accusations that they've been heavy handed in making them taking it down.

 

It's almost like the people who chose & took it were deliberately looking to cause aggravation, isn't it?

Why do the stewards have to get involved? A banner in an empty stadium hurts nobody and Ashley doesn't care so where's the problem? Still though, it was obvious it would be took, but it was one of those things where you had to be there. I'm not sure if you've seen the clip of these stewards, but just imagine them charging towards bairns no older than 12 who had a hold of said banner. They didn't even attempt to talk to anyone, they just charged in and began pushing fans about. That's not the job of a steward, they shouldn't be able to lay a finger on anyone. Horrible c***s they are.

 

If it was obvious it would be took (sic) I think you've ruined your own defence unfortunately.

 

I've had trouble with the stewarding at the club myself and got an apology from the club for it, but that yesterday deserves pretty much whatever it got.

[Guest BooBoo]

With such a ridiculous statement on the banner the stewards were always going to remove it.

 

Knowing Ashley and the way he goes on it wouldnt be that surprising if he had his people looking into a potential libel case!

[Heron]

(Not to the above post but as a general outlook)

 

Cannot believe some people like.

 

The Ashley Fat Cockney Rapist banner was brilliant - as previously mentioned a bit ont he edge but he has driven us so far I think it's kind of acceptable. Thumbs up to the other banner in the Gallowgate too.

 

I can't help but feel that some of the older support in the ground are all too happy to whinge about Mike Ashley in a bar before and after the game and criticise those youngsters trying to make a stand. Maybe if they were there making a stand too there would be less "Chavs" and other youngsters in the public eye by the time the stories hit the press?

 

I missed the pre-match protests and sang just about every song that belted from Leazes Level 7. In my opinion the atmosphere was pretty flat in other parts of the ground apart from the occassional Newcastle chant and one Ashley Out chant which belted out of the Gallowgate following an altercation with the steward about the afore mentioned banner.

 

The main significant chant was "Stand up for St James' Park" which unsurprisingly started from the Leazes Corner again - maybe a biased opinion but it's one I'm happy top share. Is it just me or are a very small minority of people just anti-singing section/Toon Ultras?

 

Also, I personally believe that many people are willing to comment on the protests labelling everyone who went as Charvas - were you there? If so are you a charva and if protesting was so stupid why were you there unless you had a camera and a note pad to write a story!?

 

Protesting had f*** all to do with getting rid of Ahsley in one swell swoop - it was about making him feel uncomfortable. I expect alot of the negative charva element and some of the more stupid songs to be well documented in the press. However, there were a number of good chants as well at the reception after the game - Stand up for St James Park and Sit Down For St James Park being two of them. The sit down one should have been done for longer just so it looked nice and peaceful with a sense of We Shall Not Be Moved if you like.

 

Again just to go back to the point I wanted to make - some of the fans complaining about what people sang need to shut the f*** up - the one section that really got behind their team constantly yesterday was the Corner in Level 7 - whether it be 75% team chants and 25% Anti-Ashley is irrelevant. In my very own biased opinion the Leazes Level 7 comes out with the most credibility as far as backing the team goes so shut the f*** up if you sit on your hands all game singing f*** all and don't like it when Get Out of Our Club is aired several times.

 

No-one ever made a platform for changing a shower of s*** sat in their armchair in the library.

 

[Pav]

Whoever came up with the idea of the rapist banner wants a clip.

 

It's exactly the sort of thing that is going to mean the stewards having to get involved, and then there will be the accusations that they've been heavy handed in making them taking it down.

 

It's almost like the people who chose & took it were deliberately looking to cause aggravation, isn't it?

Why do the stewards have to get involved? A banner in an empty stadium hurts nobody and Ashley doesn't care so where's the problem? Still though, it was obvious it would be took, but it was one of those things where you had to be there. I'm not sure if you've seen the clip of these stewards, but just imagine them charging towards bairns no older than 12 who had a hold of said banner. They didn't even attempt to talk to anyone, they just charged in and began pushing fans about. That's not the job of a steward, they shouldn't be able to lay a finger on anyone. Horrible c***s they are.

 

If it was obvious it would be took (sic) I think you've ruined your own defence unfortunately.

 

I've had trouble with the stewarding at the club myself and got an apology from the club for it, but that yesterday deserves pretty much whatever it got.

 

Nah I don't agree. Like I said, we knew it would be took, but the manner in which it was took was out of order. And again, the only reason we knew it would be took is because the stewards are c***s. Why should it be took? If they just let the fans to it we wouldn't see it kicking off and it would have been a peaceful protest. It's the police & stewards causing bother, yet the blame will be placed on the fans.

[binnsy]

i have no problem with the rapist banner,  Ashley is raping our footbal club.

next game it should be there again, ideally in the gallowgate end so its even more visable but change the words,  don't need the fat cockney bit, how about a simple...

 

MIKE ASHLEY -  FOOTBALL CLUB RAPIST.

[Thespence]

The stewards who went up to take it down were they the Bangladeshi mafia type, doorman stewards or a Bombaybouncer mix?

 

 

[Guest BooBoo]

Whoever came up with the idea of the rapist banner wants a clip.

 

It's exactly the sort of thing that is going to mean the stewards having to get involved, and then there will be the accusations that they've been heavy handed in making them taking it down.

 

It's almost like the people who chose & took it were deliberately looking to cause aggravation, isn't it?

Why do the stewards have to get involved? A banner in an empty stadium hurts nobody and Ashley doesn't care so where's the problem? Still though, it was obvious it would be took, but it was one of those things where you had to be there. I'm not sure if you've seen the clip of these stewards, but just imagine them charging towards bairns no older than 12 who had a hold of said banner. They didn't even attempt to talk to anyone, they just charged in and began pushing fans about. That's not the job of a steward, they shouldn't be able to lay a finger on anyone. Horrible c***s they are.

 

If it was obvious it would be took (sic) I think you've ruined your own defence unfortunately.

 

I've had trouble with the stewarding at the club myself and got an apology from the club for it, but that yesterday deserves pretty much whatever it got.

 

Nah I don't agree. Like I said, we knew it would be took, but the manner in which it was took was out of order. And again, the only reason we knew it would be took is because the stewards are c***s. Why should it be took? If they just let the fans to it we wouldn't see it kicking off and it would have been a peaceful protest. It's the police & stewards causing bother, yet the blame will be placed on the fans.

 

The police are obliged to remove any libellous signs/ banner etc, but there's no excuse for stewards being heavy handed. I would guess though that they would have been getting serious grief.

[binnsy]

if i was a steward on £5 an hour the last thing i'd want to be doing is getting into a confrontation over a banner,  i thought stewards were there for crowd control,  surely removing banners isn't part of the job description!

[Pav]

The stewards who went up to take it down were they the Bangladeshi mafia type, doorman stewards or a Bombaybouncer mix?

It was the big doormen from 'Phoenix Eye Security'. Not exactly then type you'd want to be getting ragged around by, horrible cunts.

[Liam Liam Liam O]

Whoever came up with the idea of the rapist banner wants a clip.

 

It's exactly the sort of thing that is going to mean the stewards having to get involved, and then there will be the accusations that they've been heavy handed in making them taking it down.

 

It's almost like the people who chose & took it were deliberately looking to cause aggravation, isn't it?

Why do the stewards have to get involved? A banner in an empty stadium hurts nobody and Ashley doesn't care so where's the problem? Still though, it was obvious it would be took, but it was one of those things where you had to be there. I'm not sure if you've seen the clip of these stewards, but just imagine them charging towards bairns no older than 12 who had a hold of said banner. They didn't even attempt to talk to anyone, they just charged in and began pushing fans about. That's not the job of a steward, they shouldn't be able to lay a finger on anyone. Horrible c***s they are.

 

If it was obvious it would be took (sic) I think you've ruined your own defence unfortunately.

 

I've had trouble with the stewarding at the club myself and got an apology from the club for it, but that yesterday deserves pretty much whatever it got.

 

Nah I don't agree. Like I said, we knew it would be took, but the manner in which it was took was out of order. And again, the only reason we knew it would be took is because the stewards are c***s. Why should it be took? If they just let the fans to it we wouldn't see it kicking off and it would have been a peaceful protest. It's the police & stewards causing bother, yet the blame will be placed on the fans.

 

That last bit is exactly what I said you'd say at the top of the page.

 

The banner was offensive so as to cause trouble and then when attempts to remove it are made it's the stewards who are at fault. Priceless.

 

I know the stewards are appalling, but if it had been the police, you'd be levelling exactly the same accusation at them.

[Pav]

That last bit is exactly what I said you'd say at the top of the page.

 

The banner was offensive so as to cause trouble and then when attempts to remove it are made it's the stewards who are at fault. Priceless.

 

I know the stewards are appalling, but if it had been the police, you'd be levelling exactly the same accusation at them.

How was it to cause trouble? I held onto it after the match, and at that point the only thing going through my mind was protesting, not getting shoved around by some middle aged pricks. The only reason the banner was lost in the end was due to the police. Once they came up there was no chance of keeping it. Would they have came if the stewards hadn't? Your guess is as good as mine, although they didn't seem at all arsed until it started kicking off with the stewards.

[WarrenBartonCentrePartin]

it was funny, I laughed when I saw it, and I'm unhappy it got confiscated.  Well done for trying.

 

However if I was told a banner was being made, and it was my decision what to put on it, I wouldn't have had 'rapist'.  If you make another one, try to think of something a little bit more articulate or witty.

 

The 'Not wanted @ St. James' ' works well with it being a play on the rename

[Guest Heneage]

Saying he's a rapist is just stupid.

[Pav]

it was funny, I laughed when I saw it, and I'm unhappy it got confiscated.  Well done for trying.

 

However if I was told a banner was being made, and it was my decision what to put on it, I wouldn't have had 'rapist'.  If you make another one, try to think of something a little bit more articulate or witty.

 

The 'Not wanted @ St. James' ' works well with it being a play on the rename

Yeah I agree, didn't even know about the banner until just before the game. Either way hopefully there'll be more of the same at the next home game 

[Big Geordie]

The atmosphere on the Leazes 'Curva' was excellent yesterday. Reminds me of days long gone when I used to stand in the Gallowgate Corner/Scoreboard. Makes me want to get to more games, despite what's going on with Ashley - hoping to make the Swansea match too and back up in L7.

[madras]

(Not to the above post but as a general outlook)

 

Cannot believe some people like.

The Ashley Fat Cockney Rapist banner was brilliant - as previously mentioned a bit ont he edge but he has driven us so far I think it's kind of acceptable. Thumbs up to the other banner in the Gallowgate too.

 

I can't help but feel that some of the older support in the ground are all too happy to whinge about Mike Ashley in a bar before and after the game and criticise those youngsters trying to make a stand. Maybe if they were there making a stand too there would be less "Chavs" and other youngsters in the public eye by the time the stories hit the press?

 

I missed the pre-match protests and sang just about every song that belted from Leazes Level 7. In my opinion the atmosphere was pretty flat in other parts of the ground apart from the occassional Newcastle chant and one Ashley Out chant which belted out of the Gallowgate following an altercation with the steward about the afore mentioned banner.

 

The main significant chant was "Stand up for St James' Park" which unsurprisingly started from the Leazes Corner again - maybe a biased opinion but it's one I'm happy top share. Is it just me or are a very small minority of people just anti-singing section/Toon Ultras?

 

Also, I personally believe that many people are willing to comment on the protests labelling everyone who went as Charvas - were you there? If so are you a charva and if protesting was so stupid why were you there unless you had a camera and a note pad to write a story!?

 

Protesting had f*** all to do with getting rid of Ahsley in one swell swoop - it was about making him feel uncomfortable. I expect alot of the negative charva element and some of the more stupid songs to be well documented in the press. However, there were a number of good chants as well at the reception after the game - Stand up for St James Park and Sit Down For St James Park being two of them. The sit down one should have been done for longer just so it looked nice and peaceful with a sense of We Shall Not Be Moved if you like.

 

Again just to go back to the point I wanted to make - some of the fans complaining about what people sang need to shut the f*** up - the one section that really got behind their team constantly yesterday was the Corner in Level 7 - whether it be 75% team chants and 25% Anti-Ashley is irrelevant. In my very own biased opinion the Leazes Level 7 comes out with the most credibility as far as backing the team goes so shut the f*** up if you sit on your hands all game singing f*** all and don't like it when Get Out of Our Club is aired several times.

 

No-one ever made a platform for changing a shower of s*** sat in their armchair in the library.

 

no it wasn't. it makes newcastle fans look like a bunch of twats.

[Heron]

(Not to the above post but as a general outlook)

 

Cannot believe some people like.

The Ashley Fat Cockney Rapist banner was brilliant - as previously mentioned a bit ont he edge but he has driven us so far I think it's kind of acceptable. Thumbs up to the other banner in the Gallowgate too.

 

I can't help but feel that some of the older support in the ground are all too happy to whinge about Mike Ashley in a bar before and after the game and criticise those youngsters trying to make a stand. Maybe if they were there making a stand too there would be less "Chavs" and other youngsters in the public eye by the time the stories hit the press?

 

I missed the pre-match protests and sang just about every song that belted from Leazes Level 7. In my opinion the atmosphere was pretty flat in other parts of the ground apart from the occassional Newcastle chant and one Ashley Out chant which belted out of the Gallowgate following an altercation with the steward about the afore mentioned banner.

 

The main significant chant was "Stand up for St James' Park" which unsurprisingly started from the Leazes Corner again - maybe a biased opinion but it's one I'm happy top share. Is it just me or are a very small minority of people just anti-singing section/Toon Ultras?

 

Also, I personally believe that many people are willing to comment on the protests labelling everyone who went as Charvas - were you there? If so are you a charva and if protesting was so stupid why were you there unless you had a camera and a note pad to write a story!?

 

Protesting had f*** all to do with getting rid of Ahsley in one swell swoop - it was about making him feel uncomfortable. I expect alot of the negative charva element and some of the more stupid songs to be well documented in the press. However, there were a number of good chants as well at the reception after the game - Stand up for St James Park and Sit Down For St James Park being two of them. The sit down one should have been done for longer just so it looked nice and peaceful with a sense of We Shall Not Be Moved if you like.

 

Again just to go back to the point I wanted to make - some of the fans complaining about what people sang need to shut the f*** up - the one section that really got behind their team constantly yesterday was the Corner in Level 7 - whether it be 75% team chants and 25% Anti-Ashley is irrelevant. In my very own biased opinion the Leazes Level 7 comes out with the most credibility as far as backing the team goes so shut the f*** up if you sit on your hands all game singing f*** all and don't like it when Get Out of Our Club is aired several times.

 

No-one ever made a platform for changing a shower of s*** sat in their armchair in the library.

 

no it wasn't. it makes newcastle fans look like a bunch of twats.

 

Not really - it's no different from singing something along the lines of  he's only a poor little hammer which you've probably sang before. Other songs like Geordie boys we are here, etc. They're all no different...

[SteveMc]

It's surely pretty clear that they aren't calling him an actual rapist isn't it?