Who do you hate most

[UV]

Hate is too strong a word. There are those I get angry about though.

 

Ashley and Gullitt bungled things, but they held their hands up afterwards and admitted their mistakes. I don't hate a person in that position.

 

Shepherd and Keegan have also been at fault, but, with varying degrees of success, have pointed the finger elsewhere. That, I don't respect.

 

I don't know what to make of Souness. He didn't do a good job, he has his weaknesses as a man manager, but he has taken too much of the blame.

 

When did Ashley hold his hands up ? 

 

Google 'Mike Ashley apology' if you're curious.

 

I did this as I was curious as to which mistakes Ashley had admitted to. Unfortunately I didn't find the answer to that, but I did learn that Shearer is 110% the man for the manager's job, he'd be the perfect appointment and that bringing Shearer back to Newcastle United was the best decision he has made. So fair play to Ashley on that, all is forgiven.

[johnnypd]

Nile Ranger.

 

[/the cool kids]

 

[/jk]

 

am i the only one that doesn't get the Ranger love in? 

[Cronky]

Hate is too strong a word. There are those I get angry about though.

 

Ashley and Gullitt bungled things, but they held their hands up afterwards and admitted their mistakes. I don't hate a person in that position.

 

Shepherd and Keegan have also been at fault, but, with varying degrees of success, have pointed the finger elsewhere. That, I don't respect.

 

I don't know what to make of Souness. He didn't do a good job, he has his weaknesses as a man manager, but he has taken too much of the blame.

 

When did Ashley hold his hands up ? 

 

Google 'Mike Ashley apology' if you're curious.

 

Yeah, i know what he said but it was just words mate.  Do you really think he is sorry?

 

If he REALLY did hold his hands up and admit he was wrong why haven't we got a proper manager yet and why is the swuad still paper thin?

 

The mans a proven gobshyte, him and his cockney casino managing baboon.

 

Well for me the important thing is that he's accepted at least his share of the responsibility through that apology. He's admitted that he's made mistakes, that's enough.

 

I don't particularly want anyone to grovel, and I don't know 'how' sorry he is. However, I'm sure he feels there are others who should be holding their hands up as well.

 

The manager situation has been affected by his decision to sell. I can't see that it's an indication of how 'sorry' he feels.

 

 

[Isegrim]

Hate is too strong a word. There are those I get angry about though.

 

Ashley and Gullitt bungled things, but they held their hands up afterwards and admitted their mistakes. I don't hate a person in that position.

 

Shepherd and Keegan have also been at fault, but, with varying degrees of success, have pointed the finger elsewhere. That, I don't respect.

 

I don't know what to make of Souness. He didn't do a good job, he has his weaknesses as a man manager, but he has taken too much of the blame.

 

When did Ashley hold his hands up ? 

 

Google 'Mike Ashley apology' if you're curious.

 

I did this as I was curious as to which mistakes Ashley had admitted to. Unfortunately I didn't find the answer to that, but I did learn that Shearer is 110% the man for the manager's job, he'd be the perfect appointment and that bringing Shearer back to Newcastle United was the best decision he has made. So fair play to Ashley on that, all is forgiven.

Not to forget his apology nearly 12 months ago. We should be glad that he learnt from his mistakes then. Otherwise he would see us losing games in the Premierleague. How much fun would that be, eh...

[UV]

Hate is too strong a word. There are those I get angry about though.

 

Ashley and Gullitt bungled things, but they held their hands up afterwards and admitted their mistakes. I don't hate a person in that position.

 

Shepherd and Keegan have also been at fault, but, with varying degrees of success, have pointed the finger elsewhere. That, I don't respect.

 

I don't know what to make of Souness. He didn't do a good job, he has his weaknesses as a man manager, but he has taken too much of the blame.

 

When did Ashley hold his hands up ? 

 

Google 'Mike Ashley apology' if you're curious.

 

Yeah, i know what he said but it was just words mate.  Do you really think he is sorry?

 

If he REALLY did hold his hands up and admit he was wrong why haven't we got a proper manager yet and why is the swuad still paper thin?

 

The mans a proven gobshyte, him and his cockney casino managing baboon.

 

Well for me the important thing is that he's accepted at least his share of the responsibility through that apology. He's admitted that he's made mistakes, that's enough.

 

I don't particularly want anyone to grovel, and I don't know 'how' sorry he is. However, I'm sure he feels there are others who should be holding their hands up as well.

 

The manager situation has been affected by his decision to sell. I can't see that it's an indication of how 'sorry' he feels.

 

 

 

You mean his decision to "sell" which came just 5 days after saying "Talks are now ongoing between us about how we can take this club forward again." Have you not learned yet that nothing Ashley or Llambias say can be believed. They are quite happy to lie through their teeth even when they know they're going to get found out just days later. They have no shame and they will say whatever they think is necessary to get them through the current shit storm their incompetence has kicked up. Any apology or statement of contrition is completely hollow.

 

He didn't actually say he'd made any mistakes btw, the carefully worded statement was "I fully accept that mistakes were made during this and previous seasons and I am very sorry for that." I personally think they don't actually believe they've made any major mistakes themselves, they just think they've been unlucky and have been let down by some of the people they appointed.

[Mr. Snrub]

Gullit.

 

He benched Shearer!!!!!!

[Yorkie]

Genuinely astonished at how close this poll is.

[NG32]

Hate is too strong a word. There are those I get angry about though.

 

Ashley and Gullitt bungled things, but they held their hands up afterwards and admitted their mistakes. I don't hate a person in that position.

 

Shepherd and Keegan have also been at fault, but, with varying degrees of success, have pointed the finger elsewhere. That, I don't respect.

 

I don't know what to make of Souness. He didn't do a good job, he has his weaknesses as a man manager, but he has taken too much of the blame.

 

When did Ashley hold his hands up ? 

 

Google 'Mike Ashley apology' if you're curious.

 

Yeah, i know what he said but it was just words mate.  Do you really think he is sorry?

 

If he REALLY did hold his hands up and admit he was wrong why haven't we got a proper manager yet and why is the swuad still paper thin?

 

The mans a proven gobshyte, him and his cockney casino managing baboon.

 

Well for me the important thing is that he's accepted at least his share of the responsibility through that apology. He's admitted that he's made mistakes, that's enough.

 

I don't particularly want anyone to grovel, and I don't know 'how' sorry he is. However, I'm sure he feels there are others who should be holding their hands up as well.

 

The manager situation has been affected by his decision to sell. I can't see that it's an indication of how 'sorry' he feels.

 

 

 

Jesus.

[Pilko]

Ashley.

[Isegrim]

Hate is too strong a word. There are those I get angry about though.

 

Ashley and Gullitt bungled things, but they held their hands up afterwards and admitted their mistakes. I don't hate a person in that position.

 

Shepherd and Keegan have also been at fault, but, with varying degrees of success, have pointed the finger elsewhere. That, I don't respect.

 

I don't know what to make of Souness. He didn't do a good job, he has his weaknesses as a man manager, but he has taken too much of the blame.

 

When did Ashley hold his hands up ? 

 

Google 'Mike Ashley apology' if you're curious.

 

Yeah, i know what he said but it was just words mate.  Do you really think he is sorry?

 

If he REALLY did hold his hands up and admit he was wrong why haven't we got a proper manager yet and why is the swuad still paper thin?

 

The mans a proven gobshyte, him and his cockney casino managing baboon.

 

Well for me the important thing is that he's accepted at least his share of the responsibility through that apology. He's admitted that he's made mistakes, that's enough.

 

I don't particularly want anyone to grovel, and I don't know 'how' sorry he is. However, I'm sure he feels there are others who should be holding their hands up as well.

 

The manager situation has been affected by his decision to sell. I can't see that it's an indication of how 'sorry' he feels.

 

 

So you are rather happy with someone saying he is sorry regardless of actually meaning it and especially acting in accordance? Weird.

 

As for accepting his share of responsibility. He and his cronies have several times tried to shift the blame anyway and pointed with fingers as much as others - if not even more. Mainly at Keegan and Shepherd. No word of accepting that buying a club without doing due dilligence is rather stupid - he would have known about the financial state then. No word of real apology for being shown up as incompetent liars at an independent tribunal. Just blank words (or more lies) months later after being unable to sell the club. Whatever makes you happy though...

 

 

[Cronky]

Hate is too strong a word. There are those I get angry about though.

 

Ashley and Gullitt bungled things, but they held their hands up afterwards and admitted their mistakes. I don't hate a person in that position.

 

Shepherd and Keegan have also been at fault, but, with varying degrees of success, have pointed the finger elsewhere. That, I don't respect.

 

I don't know what to make of Souness. He didn't do a good job, he has his weaknesses as a man manager, but he has taken too much of the blame.

 

When did Ashley hold his hands up ? 

 

Google 'Mike Ashley apology' if you're curious.

 

Yeah, i know what he said but it was just words mate.  Do you really think he is sorry?

 

If he REALLY did hold his hands up and admit he was wrong why haven't we got a proper manager yet and why is the swuad still paper thin?

 

The mans a proven gobshyte, him and his cockney casino managing baboon.

 

Well for me the important thing is that he's accepted at least his share of the responsibility through that apology. He's admitted that he's made mistakes, that's enough.

 

I don't particularly want anyone to grovel, and I don't know 'how' sorry he is. However, I'm sure he feels there are others who should be holding their hands up as well.

 

The manager situation has been affected by his decision to sell. I can't see that it's an indication of how 'sorry' he feels.

 

 

So you are rather happy with someone saying he is sorry regardless of actually meaning it and especially acting in accordance? Weird.

 

As for accepting his share of responsibility. He and his cronies have several times tried to shift the blame anyway and pointed with fingers as much as others - if not even more. Mainly at Keegan and Shepherd. No word of accepting that buying a club without doing due dilligence is rather stupid - he would have known about the financial state then. No word of real apology for being shown up as incompetent liars at an independent tribunal. Just blank words (or more lies) months later after being unable to sell the club. Whatever makes you happy though...

 

 

 

I don't see why people are quibbling about the wording of this apology and how much he means it, when he's the only one who's uttered any kind of apology or accepted any kind of responsibility at all. Unless you think it's all his fault, in which case, fine, you're entitled to your opinion.

 

Even then, I can't see why anyone should 'hate' him, unless you think he did it all deliberately, in which case again, fine if that's how you see it.

[fredbob]

No option for the fans? Never the fans fault, they pay there money and therefore are entitled to say or do whatever they want....include essentially hounding out SBR from the club. For finishing 5th.

 

I went there.

 

 

[TaylorJ_01]

Hate Allardyce more than Souness.

 

Have a soft-ish spot for Souness after reading about him apologising for what he done to Newcastle to a fan abroad. By all accounts he is a nice guy and I find it hard to hate nice guys. Then there's that fat, smug cunt Ashley.

 

Voted Ashley.

[madras]

No option for the fans? Never the fans fault, they pay there money and therefore are entitled to say or do whatever they want....include essentially hounding out SBR from the club. For finishing 5th.

 

I went there.

 

 

not strictly true though was it. he wasn't hounded out by the fans and a lot of fans were, in my opinion, correct to voice concern about the drop in standards on the pitch from the season before.

[Tooj]

No option for the fans? Never the fans fault, they pay there money and therefore are entitled to say or do whatever they want....include essentially hounding out SBR from the club. For finishing 5th.

 

I went there.

 

 

not strictly true though was it. he wasn't hounded out by the fans and a lot of fans were, in my opinion, correct to voice concern about the drop in standards on the pitch from the season before.

 

Correct.

[Mr Logic]

Souness for me. Ashely is an idiot. Souness was supposed to know football.

[Super Duper Branko Strupar]

The reason I chose Gullit is because at Euro 96 my dad worked at Slayley Hall, and drove the 3 pundits, I forget the other 2 but Gullit was one (one may have been Lynam), to the Stadium for whatever game it was (Romania vs someone?).

Anyhoo, Gullit said in the car there that "Newcastle were not a Premiership side and were dilusioned". And thats a quote!

Then he f**cking comes here and drops Shearer and picks a losing side to the mackams at home in the teeming f**king rain! Worst night of my life that was!

C**t!

[fredbob]

No option for the fans? Never the fans fault, they pay there money and therefore are entitled to say or do whatever they want....include essentially hounding out SBR from the club. For finishing 5th.

 

I went there.

 

 

not strictly true though was it. he wasn't hounded out by the fans and a lot of fans were, in my opinion, correct to voice concern about the drop in standards on the pitch from the season before.

 

I just cant understand this view, we finished 5th and played awfully. Put that into perspective now and you can perfectly understand why i hate those fans, a few years earlier we were being saved from relegation by this man. I dont mind people voicing there unhappiness at the level of performance througout the season but to call for his head and eventually get that wish was scandalous in my opinion, something which set us into our spiral.

 

Just think about the recpetion he got on the last game of the season and compare it with the recpetion roeder got for finshing 7th, theres something definintievly wrong about the logical inconcsistency of the fans. Its what i'd vote for if it were up. No question.

 

[fredbob]

No option for the fans? Never the fans fault, they pay there money and therefore are entitled to say or do whatever they want....include essentially hounding out SBR from the club. For finishing 5th.

 

I went there.

 

 

not strictly true though was it. he wasn't hounded out by the fans and a lot of fans were, in my opinion, correct to voice concern about the drop in standards on the pitch from the season before.

 

Correct.

 

Should of gone the season before, right?

[midds]

No option for the fans? Never the fans fault, they pay there money and therefore are entitled to say or do whatever they want....include essentially hounding out SBR from the club. For finishing 5th.

 

I went there.

 

 

not strictly true though was it. he wasn't hounded out by the fans and a lot of fans were, in my opinion, correct to voice concern about the drop in standards on the pitch from the season before.

 

Correct.

 

Should of gone the season before, right?

 

Once it was made public it was going to be his last season he was on borrowed time. That was the mistake. The players knew he wouldn't be there in 12 months time and I believe he lost some of his players. Not his fault but I do wish he'd have gone in the summer rather than go through what he eventually did.

[Superior Acuña]

I don't think any fans called for his head.  People were critical, but to claim he was hounded out is ridiculous.  For one, what happened at the Wolves game was with 2 games remaining, with the possibility of finishing 4th, 5th or 6th, that was about the game and certain players, not the position.  The last day at Liverpool was very positive.

[Mick]

not strictly true though was it. he wasn't hounded out by the fans and a lot of fans were, in my opinion, correct to voice concern about the drop in standards on the pitch from the season before.

 

Voicing concern at a drop in standards is fair enough, walking out like many did was crazy and the beginning of the end for Bobby.  What made it even worse was so many stayed back a year later when we had Souness.  

[alpal78]

Genuinely astonished at how close this poll is.

 

I actually surprised that the gap between Ashley and Souness is so big. Ashley with other joker of his got us relegated (players also share some blame imo), but if we are honest we were already a poor team by the time he took over. Souness absolutely destroyed a superb team that with a bit of tweaking could have broken our trophy dry run and the way he treated some of our favourite players was absolutely unacceptable! I can still feel the anger when I think of those times.

 

I'm still convinced that a significant number of those who voted for Ashley is basing it on current emotions. They are unable/unwilling to access the depth of their hatred towards Souness during his time. If only we could dig up some of the post on Souness, he would be lucky to be called a rapist!

[Isegrim]

Hate is too strong a word. There are those I get angry about though.

 

Ashley and Gullitt bungled things, but they held their hands up afterwards and admitted their mistakes. I don't hate a person in that position.

 

Shepherd and Keegan have also been at fault, but, with varying degrees of success, have pointed the finger elsewhere. That, I don't respect.

 

I don't know what to make of Souness. He didn't do a good job, he has his weaknesses as a man manager, but he has taken too much of the blame.

 

When did Ashley hold his hands up ? 

 

Google 'Mike Ashley apology' if you're curious.

 

Yeah, i know what he said but it was just words mate.  Do you really think he is sorry?

 

If he REALLY did hold his hands up and admit he was wrong why haven't we got a proper manager yet and why is the swuad still paper thin?

 

The mans a proven gobshyte, him and his cockney casino managing baboon.

 

Well for me the important thing is that he's accepted at least his share of the responsibility through that apology. He's admitted that he's made mistakes, that's enough.

 

I don't particularly want anyone to grovel, and I don't know 'how' sorry he is. However, I'm sure he feels there are others who should be holding their hands up as well.

 

The manager situation has been affected by his decision to sell. I can't see that it's an indication of how 'sorry' he feels.

 

 

So you are rather happy with someone saying he is sorry regardless of actually meaning it and especially acting in accordance? Weird.

 

As for accepting his share of responsibility. He and his cronies have several times tried to shift the blame anyway and pointed with fingers as much as others - if not even more. Mainly at Keegan and Shepherd. No word of accepting that buying a club without doing due dilligence is rather stupid - he would have known about the financial state then. No word of real apology for being shown up as incompetent liars at an independent tribunal. Just blank words (or more lies) months later after being unable to sell the club. Whatever makes you happy though...

 

 

 

I don't see why people are quibbling about the wording of this apology and how much he means it, when he's the only one who's uttered any kind of apology or accepted any kind of responsibility at all. Unless you think it's all his fault, in which case, fine, you're entitled to your opinion.

 

Even then, I can't see why anyone should 'hate' him, unless you think he did it all deliberately, in which case again, fine if that's how you see it.

Because actions speak louder than words. Words mean nothing when not filled with content. There isn't any content in his words. Just blankness. That isn't 'taking responsibility'. Apropriate actions would be. He is only showing responsibility for his mistakes by making even more. He isn't doing things deliberately but out of stupidity. I actually find this even worse (more hateful) because he has had more than enough chances to rectify things by his own, by retracting from his 'terrible decisions' as he called it. He isn't doing this, so he can f*ck off with all his empty words.

[Mowen]

Hate is too strong a word. There are those I get angry about though.

 

Ashley and Gullitt bungled things, but they held their hands up afterwards and admitted their mistakes. I don't hate a person in that position.

 

Shepherd and Keegan have also been at fault, but, with varying degrees of success, have pointed the finger elsewhere. That, I don't respect.

 

I don't know what to make of Souness. He didn't do a good job, he has his weaknesses as a man manager, but he has taken too much of the blame.

 

When did Ashley hold his hands up ? 

 

Google 'Mike Ashley apology' if you're curious.

 

Yeah, i know what he said but it was just words mate.  Do you really think he is sorry?

 

If he REALLY did hold his hands up and admit he was wrong why haven't we got a proper manager yet and why is the swuad still paper thin?

 

The mans a proven gobshyte, him and his cockney casino managing baboon.

 

Well for me the important thing is that he's accepted at least his share of the responsibility through that apology. He's admitted that he's made mistakes, that's enough.

 

I don't particularly want anyone to grovel, and I don't know 'how' sorry he is. However, I'm sure he feels there are others who should be holding their hands up as well.

 

The manager situation has been affected by his decision to sell. I can't see that it's an indication of how 'sorry' he feels.

 

 

 

Actions speak louder than words.

 

"The club admitted it had repeatedly and deliberatly misled and lied to the fans."