Optimistic Nut Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 Guppy and Huckerby are two examples of players let go because of having no reserve team. And I also know for a fact Michael Carrick's dad wanted his son to join the Newcastle academy but was advised by his friend who was West Ham's North East scout at the time to go there instead as he'd have no chance of progressing here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen927 Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 It's been edited out now, but last night on his Wikipedia page under Personal Life, it told of how Chris spends half an hour deliberating over which microwave meal to purchase at Kingston Park Tesco. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 Guppy and Huckerby are two examples of players let go because of having no reserve team. And I also know for a fact Michael Carrick's dad wanted his son to join the Newcastle academy but was advised by his friend who was West Ham's North East scout at the time to go there instead as he'd have no chance of progressing here. Guppy was not upto the job at the time. We signed Hucks during 95, he trains with the 1st team, plays behind the doors friendlies (as the clubs does now) we loaned him out & then Cov put in rather big bid for him....s*** happens. Your wrong about Carrick he was never going to join Newcastle, as the club had a rule at the time you either played for the Newcastle United pre-youth teams or your local boys club you could not do both, Vince (his dad & now vice-President of Wallsend Boys Club) has always been a supporter of Wallsend Boys club so that was always going to go one way . NUFC was never really option due to this. Carrick had trial with Arsenal but Weg did not take him as Peter Kirkley (now Wallsend Boys club President) was working for Arsenal at the time. Also worth remembering MC was not midfielder in his youth days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 Wasn't Huckerby, like Sir Les and Paul Kitson, also a victim of the sell-other-forwards-to-pay-for-Shearer thing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 I think the mistake after the last promotion probably refers to the fact that we went into debt to buy ready-made top players in an attempt at quick success. We neglected the youth and scouting networks. Keegan himself referred to it as building a walls and roof of a house without any foundations. (or words to that effect) It's not sustainable long-term unless you have a benefactor who's a bottomless pit of money. Adding to that, how long after promotion was it that we scrapped the reserves? BOTH of these things were also BAD mistakes - you should never neglect the future of the club by scrapping or downgrading Juniors/Reserves. KK should not have been allowed to do this and frankly, I would have supported any Chairman who had put his foot down over it...even if KK had walked. For all the complaints about Dalglish, one of the first things he did was to re-start these things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 Yep. Dalglish gets a lot of stick for some of his signings, but the likes of Pinas, Gudjohnsson, Robinson, Coppinger, Brady, Serrant, etc. were signed pretty much just to get a reserve squad back in order. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 BOTH of these things were also BAD mistakes - you should never neglect the future of the club by scrapping or downgrading Juniors/Reserves. KK should not have been allowed to do this and frankly, I would have supported any Chairman who had put his foot down over it...even if KK had walked. Our junior teams were still playing. Reserve team football has been downgraded by EVERY manager in the country Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 Yep. Dalglish gets a lot of stick for some of his signings, but the likes of Pinas, Gudjohnsson, Robinson, Coppinger, Brady, Serrant, etc. were signed pretty much just to get a reserve squad back in order. Gudjohnsson was signed for the youth team & was on trial at the club under KK in the month he left. Robinson & Copps were both signed for the youth team. Brady & Pinas aye. Serrant had been training with the England squad & then got picked for the England B team ffs!!! We didn sign him for the 2nd XI. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 Generally a big club will have 1 or 2 young players in the main squad that came through the juniors - its worth it if it saves you a million a year I guess reserves are only to give some players a sort of competitive run-out against different players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 It might not have always been pretty but job done, well done Chris Hououghhton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 :clap: :clap: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nepharite Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 The quiet assassin Christopher "Chris" William Gerard Hughton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 Credit to him... great man! Hope so much that he'll be a success next season :clap: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoU Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 Very well done Chris. Guess we won't let him go now. Just hope he at least gets the support then and a full season then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoU Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 btw when was the last time a manager had an entire season here, incl. pre-season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 We should be indebted to him for the loyalty and professionalism he has shown whilst here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 btw when was the last time a manager had an entire season here, incl. pre-season? Sir Bobby? Till his sacking in 04.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliMag Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 btw when was the last time a manager had an entire season here, incl. pre-season? Season isn't over so don't jinx it man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesPaul Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 Freedom of Newcastle and a statue outside the ground Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoU Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 btw when was the last time a manager had an entire season here, incl. pre-season? Sir Bobby? Till his sacking in 04.... Yes. Just checked. it says alot really. btw when was the last time a manager had an entire season here, incl. pre-season? Season isn't over so don't jinx it man. Sorry, you're right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4 Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 Can't not love him now. His celebrations, his dedication... he just looks genuinely pleased too. Put aside whatever shortcomings he might have, he's got the job done. I'm certainly very grateful for that! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 Yep. Dalglish gets a lot of stick for some of his signings, but the likes of Pinas, Gudjohnsson, Robinson, Coppinger, Brady, Serrant, etc. were signed pretty much just to get a reserve squad back in order. Dalglish was fucking terrible man. Absolutely ruined a perfectly good team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewellander Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 Hughton deserves a lot of admiration for his last two years with the club. I know he's not the best manager in the world, but he's done the job and deserves a chance to manage us in the Premiership next year. Great job! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 Hope he kicks their arses at half time. Its not over until that Championship trophy is ours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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