Conjo Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 We didn't know how good we had it when were tearing our hair out evey match Bramble played. Last season was the first since the 90's where I have been content with both our starting CBs in the premier league. While we've had some good individuals, we haven't had a starting pair where one of them haven't had the burden of carrying their partner to some extent like Woodgate, Coloccini and Faye. Shame that Faye got sold the summer Colo arrived. They would have been an excellent pairing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinotheprehistoricgeordie Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Not sure I've ever seen a weaker CB than Mikey boy, a total lettuce. Cacapa Fucking hell forgot about him. Holy shit we've watched some shite. That Portsmouth game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 I feel there is a bit of revisionist history here. He wasn't a terrible player and we have had loads worse than him. He was average, did well in spells, did poorly in others and was a decent squad player who had some useful runs in the team. Don't see the need to demonise the guy. The floated set piece debacle was a Pardew issue and unfair to blame Williamson for his poor tactics. We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. I struggle to think of a worse CB that's played for us over the past 15-20 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 I feel there is a bit of revisionist history here. He wasn't a terrible player and we have had loads worse than him. He was average, did well in spells, did poorly in others and was a decent squad player who had some useful runs in the team. Don't see the need to demonise the guy. The floated set piece debacle was a Pardew issue and unfair to blame Williamson for his poor tactics. We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. I struggle to think of a worse CB that's played for us over the past 15-20 years. Ramage? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 He was used as right back for us though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 I feel there is a bit of revisionist history here. He wasn't a terrible player and we have had loads worse than him. He was average, did well in spells, did poorly in others and was a decent squad player who had some useful runs in the team. Don't see the need to demonise the guy. The floated set piece debacle was a Pardew issue and unfair to blame Williamson for his poor tactics. We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. I struggle to think of a worse CB that's played for us over the past 15-20 years. Ramage? God forgot about the abomination that was Peter Damage. He wasn't even good enough to drive one if his dad's trucks FFS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Not sure I've ever seen a weaker CB than Mikey boy, a total lettuce. Cacapa Fucking hell forgot about him. Holy shit we've watched some shite. That Portsmouth game I have zero recollection. Was he too shit to comprehend, because I feel like that's what it has to be. I bet some of the teamsheets from those years would reduce me to tears. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 I feel there is a bit of revisionist history here. He wasn't a terrible player and we have had loads worse than him. He was average, did well in spells, did poorly in others and was a decent squad player who had some useful runs in the team. Don't see the need to demonise the guy. The floated set piece debacle was a Pardew issue and unfair to blame Williamson for his poor tactics. We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. I struggle to think of a worse CB that's played for us over the past 15-20 years. Ramage? God forgot about the abomination that was Peter Damage. He wasn't even good enough to drive one if his dad's trucks FFS Ramage! Holy SHIT. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Used to hunt down streams to watch these cunts play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilky Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 I feel there is a bit of revisionist history here. He wasn't a terrible player and we have had loads worse than him. He was average, did well in spells, did poorly in others and was a decent squad player who had some useful runs in the team. Don't see the need to demonise the guy. The floated set piece debacle was a Pardew issue and unfair to blame Williamson for his poor tactics. We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. I struggle to think of a worse CB that's played for us over the past 15-20 years. Worse than: Marcelino Frank Dumas David Beharall Titus Bramble Steve Caldwell Gary Caldwell Jean Alain Boumsong Oguchi Onyewu Paul Huntington David Rozenhal Cacapa Tamas Kadar Peter Ramage David Edgar Zurab Khizanishvilli Fitz Hall Sol Campbell Grant Hanley If you think he is the worst centre half than all of the above then yeah we will have to agree to disagree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenige Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 I feel there is a bit of revisionist history here. He wasn't a terrible player and we have had loads worse than him. He was average, did well in spells, did poorly in others and was a decent squad player who had some useful runs in the team. Don't see the need to demonise the guy. The floated set piece debacle was a Pardew issue and unfair to blame Williamson for his poor tactics. Completely inappropriate to post that much sense here. Begone! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 He's a good bloke, and likes the North-East, hope it goes well for him at Gateshead. Genuine question; is there anywhere else that keeps non-locals as hooked? Feels like Newcastle is really unique for that, or I just don't pay enough attention to other regions. 3 trebles for a fiver. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 I thought he was our weakest CB in respect he got bullied easily and had no strength at all, not our worst CB overall tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 I feel there is a bit of revisionist history here. He wasn't a terrible player and we have had loads worse than him. He was average, did well in spells, did poorly in others and was a decent squad player who had some useful runs in the team. Don't see the need to demonise the guy. The floated set piece debacle was a Pardew issue and unfair to blame Williamson for his poor tactics. We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. I struggle to think of a worse CB that's played for us over the past 15-20 years. Worse than: Marcelino Frank Dumas David Beharall Titus Bramble Steve Caldwell Gary Caldwell Jean Alain Boumsong Oguchi Onyewu Paul Huntington David Rozenhal Cacapa Tamas Kadar Peter Ramage David Edgar Zurab Khizanishvilli Fitz Hall Sol Campbell Grant Hanley If you think he is the worst centre half than all of the above then yeah we will have to agree to disagree. there's a good 10 names there that were worse than big mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 He was essentially crap but a decent pro and it's not his fault Pardew played to his weakness at set pieces. Much worse players have represented us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Bramble was not worse than Willo. No way. Agreed. There was always a massive mistake around the corner with Bramble because he was thick as pigshit but he was capable of a decent performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 I think being our floated set piece target under pardew has gotten him some unneeded hate we've had some super turds as that list from the last page proved Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 I feel there is a bit of revisionist history here. He wasn't a terrible player and we have had loads worse than him. He was average, did well in spells, did poorly in others and was a decent squad player who had some useful runs in the team. Don't see the need to demonise the guy. The floated set piece debacle was a Pardew issue and unfair to blame Williamson for his poor tactics. We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. I struggle to think of a worse CB that's played for us over the past 15-20 years. Worse than: Marcelino Frank Dumas David Beharall Titus Bramble Steve Caldwell Gary Caldwell Jean Alain Boumsong Oguchi Onyewu Paul Huntington David Rozenhal Cacapa Tamas Kadar Peter Ramage David Edgar Zurab Khizanishvilli Fitz Hall Sol Campbell Grant Hanley If you think he is the worst centre half than all of the above then yeah we will have to agree to disagree. Remember, we got to see Mike Williamson in all his glory as a regular starter over a number of seasons. Most of the guys you have listed above were bit-part players who didn't play often enough to make a fair judgement on. Did Gary Caldwell even make a first team appearance for us? Zurab Khizanishvilli made only a handful, same with the Gooch. Of our REGULAR STARTING CBs from the past twenty years, how many can you realistically say were worse than Mike Williamson? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 I feel there is a bit of revisionist history here. He wasn't a terrible player and we have had loads worse than him. He was average, did well in spells, did poorly in others and was a decent squad player who had some useful runs in the team. Don't see the need to demonise the guy. The floated set piece debacle was a Pardew issue and unfair to blame Williamson for his poor tactics. We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. I struggle to think of a worse CB that's played for us over the past 15-20 years. Worse than: Marcelino Frank Dumas David Beharall Titus Bramble Steve Caldwell Gary Caldwell Jean Alain Boumsong Oguchi Onyewu Paul Huntington David Rozenhal Cacapa Tamas Kadar Peter Ramage David Edgar Zurab Khizanishvilli Fitz Hall Sol Campbell Grant Hanley If you think he is the worst centre half than all of the above then yeah we will have to agree to disagree. Remember, we got to see Mike Williamson in all his glory as a regular starter over a number of seasons. Most of the guys you have listed above were bit-part players who didn't play often enough to make a fair judgement on. Did Gary Caldwell even make a first team appearance for us? Zurab Khizanishvilli made only a handful, same with the Gooch. Of our REGULAR STARTING CBs from the past twenty years, how many can you realistically say were worse than Mike Williamson? I'll say again, Peter Ramage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 The players that Williamson regularly played alongside were weaker than him like, particularly Coloccini, so that seems like a strange observation to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Fitz Hall was canny enough when he was here. Best nickname in football too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 I feel there is a bit of revisionist history here. He wasn't a terrible player and we have had loads worse than him. He was average, did well in spells, did poorly in others and was a decent squad player who had some useful runs in the team. Don't see the need to demonise the guy. The floated set piece debacle was a Pardew issue and unfair to blame Williamson for his poor tactics. We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. I struggle to think of a worse CB that's played for us over the past 15-20 years. Worse than: Marcelino Frank Dumas David Beharall Titus Bramble Steve Caldwell Gary Caldwell Jean Alain Boumsong Oguchi Onyewu Paul Huntington David Rozenhal Cacapa Tamas Kadar Peter Ramage David Edgar Zurab Khizanishvilli Fitz Hall Sol Campbell Grant Hanley If you think he is the worst centre half than all of the above then yeah we will have to agree to disagree. Williamson wasn't good, but his distribution was always a much bigger issue than his defending. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Am I wrong or didn't Bramble full on catch a ball in the middle of play? Have I imagined that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Am I wrong or didn't Bramble full on catch a ball in the middle of play? Have I imagined that? At some point in his life he probably has. You might be think of Jenas though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Am I wrong or didn't Bramble full on catch a ball in the middle of play? Have I imagined that? At some point in his life he probably has. You might be think of Jenas though. Racist Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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