Guest ProudToBeAGeordie Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 The transfer deadline doesn't apply where a club is in administration as it could cause them to go out of business if they can't sell players after the window has closed. An example of this was us signing Darren Ambrose from Ipswich when they went into temporary administration (I think it was only for 24 hours) but the administrators sold him to us at a knock down £1m in the September after the transfer window had closed. I recall the Ipswich fans were furious that we "stole " him for just £1m! I can't see this happening with Moses though, the big boys will come in for him at the last minute, they will just hang back to try and ensure the price isn't too inflated by a bidding war and the administrators will then snap their hands off. That maybe true, but he is talking up about wanting 1st team football, and he is not going to get that with any of the big boys. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 I know I'm biaised, but Moses would be mad to choose Forest or West Brom over us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 We signed Ambrose in March 2003 but that's just me being pedantic, I guess the point still stands unless the rules have changed. You didn't get docked 10 points for going into administration back then so it's feasible that some other things have changed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 £2.5-£3m for a player who will almost certainly increase in value, may already be premiership quality and fits the bill in terms of position, type of player, age, wages etc. may not be seen by Fat Mike as that big a gamble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Because Ashley paid off most of our large debts that would have needed refinancing and reorganised a working capital loan with BArclays and keeps lumping in £20m or so every now and then. Without him, we most certainly would be like every other club. Yup, deserves some credit for the debt thing. No excuse for every other mistake he's made mind, but that bit he got right. He had to pay it off. It's not like he did it out of the kindness of his heart. It was a smart business decision, no more, no less. It was essential and in a way kind of lucky. He didn't have to use his bonce, he just had to pay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Now is the time, Mike! You can win over the fans with this one.. Do it! Freddy style! "How much do you want for Moses? 2 million? I'm giving you 9!" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 I've got a bad feeling that some Prem side is going to come in last minute and we'll be looking at this thread ruefully in a year's time. (Much like the Arshavin/Modric threads.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 I've got a bad feeling that some Prem side is going to come in last minute and we'll be looking at this thread ruefully in a year's time. (Much like the Arshavin/Modric threads.) It's quite possible, but you've got to be in it to win it. If a Premier League club comes in and he goes there it's nowt to be upset about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broadsword Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Because Ashley paid off most of our large debts that would have needed refinancing and reorganised a working capital loan with BArclays and keeps lumping in £20m or so every now and then. Without him, we most certainly would be like every other club. Yup, deserves some credit for the debt thing. No excuse for every other mistake he's made mind, but that bit he got right. He had to pay it off. It's not like he did it out of the kindness of his heart. It's amazing how some fans just don't seem to realise the position we would have been in had that debt still been around the club. It's quite fortunate really, in a sick kind of way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 We'll end up with Vicktor Meldrew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Because Ashley paid off most of our large debts that would have needed refinancing and reorganised a working capital loan with BArclays and keeps lumping in £20m or so every now and then. Without him, we most certainly would be like every other club. Yup, deserves some credit for the debt thing. No excuse for every other mistake he's made mind, but that bit he got right. He had to pay it off. It's not like he did it out of the kindness of his heart. It's amazing how some fans just don't seem to realise the position we would have been in had that debt still been around the club. It's quite fortunate really, in a sick kind of way. I do realise it. I also realise that he had to pay them off due to clauses written into them about the sale of the club and it wasn't a charitable move on his part. In hindsight it was very fortunate given the current state of the club/football in general but lets not get carried away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ProudToBeAGeordie Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Because Ashley paid off most of our large debts that would have needed refinancing and reorganised a working capital loan with BArclays and keeps lumping in £20m or so every now and then. Without him, we most certainly would be like every other club. Yup, deserves some credit for the debt thing. No excuse for every other mistake he's made mind, but that bit he got right. He had to pay it off. It's not like he did it out of the kindness of his heart. It's amazing how some fans just don't seem to realise the position we would have been in had that debt still been around the club. It's quite fortunate really, in a sick kind of way. I think you will find we are still in debt big style, It's just put down as a personal loan by Ashley who is not charging intrest on it. Anybody buys the club of him, either pays that back staight off, or pays it back in installments and you can bet as soon as he is off he will be charging intrest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Because Ashley paid off most of our large debts that would have needed refinancing and reorganised a working capital loan with BArclays and keeps lumping in £20m or so every now and then. Without him, we most certainly would be like every other club. Yup, deserves some credit for the debt thing. No excuse for every other mistake he's made mind, but that bit he got right. He had to pay it off. It's not like he did it out of the kindness of his heart. It's amazing how some fans just don't seem to realise the position we would have been in had that debt still been around the club. It's quite fortunate really, in a sick kind of way. You do know why the money had to be repaid, don't you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonTastic Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Club admit they spoke with administrators and players agent last night SSN now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The_Scoreboard Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 very fair and substantial offer, nufc his preferred option and club are optimistic. Football decision not financial (SSN) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 very fair and substantial offer, nufc his preferred option and club are optimistic. Football decision not financial (SSN) No way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 fuck me.. what the hell? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The_Scoreboard Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 very fair and substantial offer, nufc his preferred option and club are optimistic. Football decision not financial (SSN) No way. WAY Club, players agent and administrators in discussion yesterday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 The toon are back. See you on the way down mackems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 very fair and substantial offer, nufc his preferred option and club are optimistic. Football decision not financial (SSN) No way. WAY Club, players agent and administrators in discussion yesterday This is mental. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRL Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 very fair and substantial offer, nufc his preferred option and club are optimistic. Football decision not financial (SSN) No way. WAY Club, players agent and administrators in discussion yesterday So, who is saying NUFC preferred option and football decision not financial? Is that the agent, administrators or us? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 It's all from Hughton's press conference this morning I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ProudToBeAGeordie Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 very fair and substantial offer, nufc his preferred option and club are optimistic. Football decision not financial (SSN) No way. WAY Club, players agent and administrators in discussion yesterday Journal have said this morning that Palace rejected our bid :/ But then when the news broke yesterday the comment was that WBA,Forest and us had made "Improved bids" for the lad, so hope we fuck around haggling on a price, just get him in before the sharks come and snap him up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The_Scoreboard Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 very fair and substantial offer, nufc his preferred option and club are optimistic. Football decision not financial (SSN) No way. WAY Club, players agent and administrators in discussion yesterday So, who is saying NUFC preferred option and football decision not financial? Is that the agent, administrators or us? Not us - sources closest to the player, taste of St.James' Park, atmosphere in front of 40000 fans and in back of his mind and his agents mind, Tony Finegan this is a football decision not a money decision, to go to a football club like newcastle that are on the cusp of getting back to PL its a real opportunity Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 very fair and substantial offer, nufc his preferred option and club are optimistic. Football decision not financial (SSN) Who is running NUFC and what have they done with Mike Ashley? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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