Vinny Green Balls Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 as a footballer, yes, Ronaldo was levels above. But Shearer had a quality that separated him from everybody else. It was that immense force of will. Reminded me of watching Michael Jordan play in his heyday. This is what makes Shearer one of the best strikers I have seen in my 35 years. There were certainly players with more physical ability. But they ended up paling in comparison to his iron resolve. That said, in his prime, Ronaldo had it all. And as legendary as Shearer is, and legendary he is, Ronaldo always was a step up. To say he was levels above Shearer, however, is a bit of hyperbole. The difference is more between Maradona and Platini. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 I wish people wouldn't bring Shearer into this. I don't want to knock our local hero but to compare the two isn't doing Shearer any favours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 A very good player but imo,maybe over rated. The best striker I've seen is Van Basten,between 87 and 88,he was just unplayable.A crying shame injury blighted and curtailed his career,and had it not have done so,I suspect we wouldn't be rating Ronaldo quite so highly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 A very good player but imo,maybe over rated. The best striker I've seen is Van Basten,between 87 and 88,he was just unplayable.A crying shame injury blighted and curtailed his career,and had it not have done so,I suspect we wouldn't be rating Ronaldo quite so highly. I really don't see how when Ronaldo was at his peak you can call him overrated. Pace, power, precision, skill, flair, movement, clinicality - he had it all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Ronaldo was several levels above Shearer, as a footballer and a striker. As a goalscorer, Shearer trumps the tranny-fiddler. What a load of rubbish. Admittedly, one didn't witness Ronaldo in his "prime", but Shearer delivered more consistently over a longer period of time in worse teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 A very good player but imo,maybe over rated. The best striker I've seen is Van Basten,between 87 and 88,he was just unplayable.A crying shame injury blighted and curtailed his career,and had it not have done so,I suspect we wouldn't be rating Ronaldo quite so highly. Van Basten as a pure striker was almost perfection. But Ronaldo added running power and dribbling skill to all that. He was like two players in one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 His goal scoring levels harken back to another time when the best were so much better than the shittier teams they played. What is extraordinary is that Ronaldo did it in the modern era. f***ing unbelievable. And as much as I like Messi, he will never be such a physical force of nature like Ronaldo. A f***ing battering ram who also had the intelligence to outwit the best defenders. Outmuscle or outwit, he could kill you with both. Ronaldo is a better physical specimen than Messi but so is C.Ronaldo arguably, doesn't mean he is a better player. If you were arguing that, which I'm not sure you were, anyway.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Ronaldo was several levels above Shearer, as a footballer and a striker. As a goalscorer, Shearer trumps the tranny-fiddler. What a load of rubbish. Admittedly, one didn't witness Ronaldo in his "prime", but Shearer delivered more consistently over a longer period of time in worse teams. 420 goals in 620 games is absolutely astonishing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 and no, I am not likening them to those two. Wildly different players. Just between abilities. Platini is an absolute legend, but Maradona was clearly better. In the end, I agree with TRon. The comparisons will never favor Shearer. But who gives a shit? I wish I had a quarter of the ability of either. There's clearly room for both players. And I consider myself immensely fortunate to have seen Ronaldo and Shearer live. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Ronaldo overrated? That is absurd. van Basten was absolutely unplayable in his prime. But so was Ronaldo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Good poster, will be missed. RIP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Ronaldo was several levels above Shearer, as a footballer and a striker. As a goalscorer, Shearer trumps the tranny-fiddler. What a load of rubbish. Admittedly, one didn't witness Ronaldo in his "prime", but Shearer delivered more consistently over a longer period of time in worse teams. 420 goals in 620 games is absolutely astonishing. It's not shabby. There's no doubt that Ronaldo was the greater all-round player but, imo, Shearer was a better finisher. Ronaldo will rightly go down as one of the greats. How many goals would he have scored playing for Southampton, Blackburn, Newcastle and England? Who knows Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Well in the scheme of things,people are saying he's the greatest ever. I think that's people over rating him. As a striker he was very good,but no better than Van Basten at their best. As far as all round players go,nobody touches Zizou,imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Also, since he's been brought up... Van Basten's bicycle kicks :fwap: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Shearer was never in the same league as Ronaldo either,have a word with yourselves comparing the 2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Shearer a better finisher? Another opinion completely based on ignorance. There's no way Shearer was a better finisher, never in a million years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Well in the scheme of things,people are saying he's the greatest ever. I think that's people over rating him. As a striker he was very good,but no better than Van Basten at their best. As far as all round players go,nobody touches Zizou,imo. Zidane was brilliant, but he couldn't do it on his own like Ronaldo could. Zidane performed better with great players around him, those who he could pick a pass for etc. Ronaldo didn't need great players around him as he could demolish teams all on his own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 I don't agree with the Platini and Maradona comparison either. Platini is regarded in the upper echelons of players to have played the game. Shearer isn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Ronaldinho at his best was better than Zidane. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 People are saying that he was the greatest striker in the last 20 odd years. And I think it's safe to say that he was. See what people say about him in 20 years time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 I don't agree with the Platini and Maradona comparison either. Platini is regarded in the upper echelons of players to have played the game. Shearer isn't. Shearer is widely regarded as the best striker to ever play in the PL. Sometimes we forget how good players in this country are for me Dalglish is better Platini. I am not comparing Shearer to Ronaldo as I think Ronaldo is one of the world greatest ever players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Tooj, I wasn't comparing the two. I was comparing the difference in their overall status in the game. I would not put Ronaldo up there with Maradona. Nor would I put Shearer up there with Platini. Both sets completely different players. I was making the point that Ronaldo is one step above Shearer, as Maradona is one step above Platini. Having been fortunate to see Platini play, I even have trouble saying Zidane was superior to him. I still regard Platini as the best player France has ever produced. Ronaldo falls into the second tier legends category for me. 1st tier would be Pele, Maradona, and distantly Cruyff. Then you have the Beckenbauer's, Platini's Ronaldo's, van Basten's, Zidane's, Rivelino's, Zico's...and I'd even throw in Cubillas here Shearer is in the 3rd tier with the Laudrup's, Neeskens, Tigana's, Klinsmann's... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 They're different types of player though Tooj.Zidane was a magician,unrivalled by any other midfielder I've seen,whereas Ronaldo has strikers who can compare with him.Van Basten and possibly even Batistuta. However the best team I've seen,Brazil 82 lacked one thing and that was a striker.Perish the thought what Ronaldo would've added to that side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Too many players are ignored when they haven't won a World Cup. Eusebio, for example, seems to be ignored quite a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 George Best moreso. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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