Tiresias Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 I heard that and it was said in a light hearted manner entirely, think you're reading too much into it. Johnathan Wilson's Inverting the Pyramid book is pretty good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Craig-NUFC Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Them even discussing "finishing above the mags" is a reflection of their under achievement so far. According to them, before a ball was kicked this season, finishing above us was a given, a formality, never in question. I listened to the Guardian's podcast last night and one jounalist on there, a mackem, said in response to the mention of MON "We are only about 10 points behind Newcastle now, we are catching them up, we can do this, COME ON!" (or words to that affect) So even the supposedly educated ones are obssessed with us. He laughed after he said it and didn't sound at all serious. He also praised Cabaye, Tiote and Ba. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Wigan 27? Some of theirs must have been arrested several times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest je85 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Called it Got a feeling we may sign Zamora Proper London boy imo, couldn't see him moving elsewhere. Was linked with Spurs last week in the Standard. I think MON will try and get him for the mackems in Jan. He can be his new Heskey. Literally weeks ahead of you. They need a left back so £15m on Gary Cahill and some goals so £5m on Emile Heskey. Europe here they come. He'll blow half on a pacey but average striker, probably with experience due to the pressure to find goals...Zamora or Odemwingie. Great minds and all that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Zamora's a decent player to be honest. He'll not get you 20 goals like, but he'll cause problems up front with his running and power. He works the channels well and is a good all-rounder up there. A bit like Best in many ways. He's not worth 8m at 31 though and isn't someone who will take the mackems to the next level. Mind, Bent who would get you those 20 goals, couldn't take them to the next level either. They need 60m or more to do that and then will have to rely on others like ourselves, Villa, Everton et al not standing in their way. It is hard for any side outside of the top 6 really these days. Spurs are so well run they are a step above the rest of us while Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal and Man City have too much money. Liverpool are looking the odd one out but they still have a big pull and seemingly lots of money too. CL footy is very important to them on that front though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Zamora's a decent player to be honest. He'll not get you 20 goals like, but he'll cause problems up front with his running and power. He works the channels well and is a good all-rounder up there. A bit like Best in many ways. He's not worth 8m at 31 though and isn't someone who will take the mackems to the next level. Mind, Bent who would get you those 20 goals, couldn't take them to the next level either. They need 60m or more to do that and then will have to rely on others like ourselves, Villa, Everton et al not standing in their way. It is hard for any side outside of the top 6 really these days. Spurs are so well run they are a step above the rest of us while Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal and Man City have too much money. Liverpool are looking the odd one out but they still have a big pull and seemingly lots of money too. CL footy is very important to them on that front though. The mackems' squad needs a massive overhaul really, don't know if £60 million would be enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 The trouble with their squad I think is lack of a style, it just seems a fairly random assortment of players of varying quality. Do they counter-attack? are they passing or hoofing? Martin O'Neil may go some way towards this, but their lack of quality wide players seems to be letting them down, and they're not especially solid at back. I doubt they'll do much in January, after splurging over the Summer and not achieving much, I doubt a rebuild is in order too much, especially in the more expensive window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Wigan 27? Some of theirs must have been arrested several times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Is it not more the case that good players, er, aren't going to go to Sunderland? They've spent a fuckload on shite for 2 reasons IMO - incompetent transfer activity, yes, but just plain and simple, why would a good-ish player go to Sunderland when almost certainly clubs of a higher standard will be interested? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Absolutely shafted by the ref apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Absolutely shafted by the ref apparently. they say that every time they don't win, nice to watch when it happens though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Catching up with us again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbers Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 They need to start winning these games if they are to push for Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Perfect result for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Absolutely shafted by the ref apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Absolutely shafted by the ref apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Just seen Everton's penalty incident Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Howard Webb making up for his gaffe for us at the SoL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 haha what a penalty!!! biggest joke ever! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Howard Webb making up for his gaffe for us at the SoL. what was that again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Howard Webb making up for his gaffe for us at the SoL. what was that again? Larsson's save? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Howard Webb making up for his gaffe for us at the SoL. what was that again? The save by Larsson on the goal line from Barton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 ah yeah! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimburst Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 What was the everton penalty incident? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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