gbandit Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Makes sense I suppose, bloody Pardew and his mastery of the media! Makes no sense to me at all. When the opposition is sitting deep you need players like HBA who can operate in a small space, not players like Sammy who need lots of space to run into. One hundred per cent correct Unbelievable. You need players who can work balls through tight space. Who picks a pass better in our team? Sammy? The kid who runs and runs but has yet to make a meaningful cross/shot/pass in a game? ... Cheers Pards, for talking shite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 He's talking nonsense there like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
powellnufc Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 The was I interpret Pardews reasoning is that if Ben Arfa came on he would cut in a lot and play in the centre where it would be very congested, whereas someone like Sammy hogs the touchline therefore making the pitch wider and helping to allow more space in the centre for the rest of the team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 The was I interpret Pardews reasoning is that if Ben Arfa came on he would cut in a lot and play in the centre where it would be very congested, whereas someone like Sammy hogs the touchline therefore making the pitch wider and helping to allow more space in the centre for the rest of the team But Sammy was played on the right, and he's left footed so would have had to come in. It's just a simple refusal to play him on the wing because he doesn't work hard enough. Very frustrating indeed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 The headline for the link on Newsnow is 'Ben Arfa rested for West Brom clash'. I was like what on earth...very misleading! Yeah i was angry before i started reading it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I'd be furious not frustrated. Sammy and Haris showed something in training? Hatem's shown it on the pitch for years, comes back from injury and has some moments. Haris and Sammy have changed no games for us..... I'm sick of harping on about it but it's my number one gripe with both Pardew and the current set up He's had 3 or 4 "moments" in what, 7 appearances this season? I know in theory Ben Arfa should be a cut above Obertan and Best, but he's obviously not doing it in training if Harris and Sammy are ahead of him in the pecking order. Don't really see how anyone can argue with that if they haven't watched him every day in training like Pardew and Carver do. And also, what really boils my p*ss with everyone's criticism of Obertan is that he had 3 or 4 "moments" against Swansea alone, but everyone still clamours for him to be replaced. He's obviously not ready yet. I don't watch any of the players in training, I do watch them during the match where it counts and Obertan isn't performing. If Pardew thinks training is more important than a match then he's a moron. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Absolutely has to start tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Absolutely has to start tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShearMagic Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Absolutely has to start tonight. The game got brought forward?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Probably be brought on in the 78th min when it's 0-0 and be expected to score a wonder goal. [/Pardewed] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 The was I interpret Pardews reasoning is that if Ben Arfa came on he would cut in a lot and play in the centre where it would be very congested, whereas someone like Sammy hogs the touchline therefore making the pitch wider and helping to allow more space in the centre for the rest of the team In that case, Sammy for Obertan is a like for like replacement persisting with the tactics that clearly weren't working in the second half, while it was clear for all and sundry we needed to try something different in order to break the deadlock.. Still doesn't make sense.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Wednesday then. Fucking hell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Should start at the expense of Best. Understand that Pardew sees him as a number 10, but he is more than capable of playing on the wing. Would still like to see Jonas on the right covering Simpson (I don't feel Santon needs as much protection as Simpson) with Ben Arfa on the left - if Pards want to play 4-4-2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 You'd think he'd have learned his lesson after the whole Tevez debacle. SBR stressed time and time again that one of the jobs of the managers is to bring the best out of troubled footballers. It's no surprise that the best managers in the world manage to do this, while the ones who fall by the wayside are guilty of having no idea how to deal with prodigious talent. Reminds me of Souness and his Robert excuses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 His excuse of bringing on the two ameobis is pathetic and highlights where he lacks tactically: expecting Sammy to put a cross in so Shola can rise above a center half to head home. Traditional, anyone? Hardly modern footie. And the funniest thing is, we were trying that all fucking game! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 His excuse of bringing on the two ameobis is pathetic and highlights where he lacks tactically: expecting Sammy to put a cross in so Shola can rise above a center half to head home. Traditional, anyone? Hardly modern footie. And the funniest thing is, we were trying that all fucking game! Fan favourites... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 His excuse of bringing on the two ameobis is pathetic and highlights where he lacks tactically: expecting Sammy to put a cross in so Shola can rise above a center half to head home. Traditional, anyone? Hardly modern footie. And the funniest thing is, we were trying that all fucking game! Fan favourites... Shola a fan favourite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 His excuse of bringing on the two ameobis is pathetic and highlights where he lacks tactically: expecting Sammy to put a cross in so Shola can rise above a center half to head home. Traditional, anyone? Hardly modern footie. And the funniest thing is, we were trying that all fucking game! It's not even that complex. It was 2 v 6/7 in the box everytime. Just counting bodies should tell you it needs changing. An AM in the hole makes the two lines of four unsure and causes confusion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocho Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Ben Arfa made his debut vs Everton on the left last season instead of Jonas and was arguably his best game for us. Load of rubbish that he can't play on the wing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 His excuse of bringing on the two ameobis is pathetic and highlights where he lacks tactically: expecting Sammy to put a cross in so Shola can rise above a center half to head home. Traditional, anyone? Hardly modern footie. And the funniest thing is, we were trying that all fucking game! Fan favourites... Shola a fan favourite. Local lads, always give their all, represent themselves well in the community. Model pros, the pair of them. Shame they're shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 His excuse of bringing on the two ameobis is pathetic and highlights where he lacks tactically: expecting Sammy to put a cross in so Shola can rise above a center half to head home. Traditional, anyone? Hardly modern footie. And the funniest thing is, we were trying that all fucking game! Fan favourites... Shola a fan favourite. PMSL I hate the useless cunt. I hinestly think he's still just easing HBA in and protecting him after his long lay off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Playing him on the right would work well, he'll be able to cut in on his left and create some new patterns etc. Very fed up with Obertan, not because I think he is that piss poor, but because he dwells on the ball and gets into way too many good positions. Still only has one assist and no goals. Even Jonas manages more, and his strength has never been providing points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JS Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Pardew, Tevez, Mascherano springs to mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 His excuse of bringing on the two ameobis is pathetic and highlights where he lacks tactically: expecting Sammy to put a cross in so Shola can rise above a center half to head home. Traditional, anyone? Hardly modern footie. And the funniest thing is, we were trying that all f***ing game! Fan favourites... Shola a fan favourite. Local lads, always give their all, represent themselves well in the community. Model pros, the pair of them. Shame they're s****. I really wish you'd fuck off like. Fuck knows how you were ever part of that united for newcastle campaign like. I agree with most that he shouldnt be starting, or coming on infront of Ben Arfa, but writing a 19 year old lad who's barely played any football off as 'shit' man. give over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 His excuse of bringing on the two ameobis is pathetic and highlights where he lacks tactically: expecting Sammy to put a cross in so Shola can rise above a center half to head home. Traditional, anyone? Hardly modern footie. And the funniest thing is, we were trying that all f***ing game! Fan favourites... Shola a fan favourite. Local lads, always give their all, represent themselves well in the community. Model pros, the pair of them. Shame they're s****. http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-JnxY36Ynyj8/TdYHh4mYbKI/AAAAAAAACpU/4MsRfRoEgXk/s1600/Alan+Shearer+wallpapers4.jpg You've got this many chances left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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