Yorkie Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 I can't see us signing a striker, in spite of the fact i see it as the main priority. An efficient centre-mid is gonna be extremely hard to come by; i can see Gosling being the only import, or someone else of his ilk. I know some people protest about the cliche defensive mid/attacking mid central combination, but i really think our team could make use of someone a bit specialist. And since we're not signing a striker, it'd have to be an creative centre-mid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Perch is never our first-choice RB, is he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Carlos Eduardo please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Perch is never our first-choice RB, is he? He is at present. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 I expect we'll get cleverley in and Guthrie will be shifted out instead & used to cover Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 I don't fancy any of our RBs, tbh. All shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Well Simpson is injured... but regardless of that, it's definitely a position i'd hope Hughton felt needed an upgrade. Whether or not Perch is that upgrade remains to be seen, i can't claim to know anything about him. I don't rate Simpson though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 I can't see us signing a striker, in spite of the fact i see it as the main priority. An efficient centre-mid is gonna be extremely hard to come by; i can see Gosling being the only import, or someone else of his ilk. I know some people protest about the cliche defensive mid/attacking mid central combination, but i really think our team could make use of someone a bit specialist. And since we're not signing a striker, it'd have to be an creative centre-mid. Hasn't Hughton said a couple of times he'll be after a striker? Also if we're not signing a centre mid or a striker who do you see us signing? Must admit I can see Hughton bringing in a winger on loan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 He wouldn't buy Perch and not play either him or Simpson. We should get Eagles in and hopefully Cleverley on loan. Then hopefully an upgrade on Lovenkrands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 I can't see us signing a striker, in spite of the fact i see it as the main priority. An efficient centre-mid is gonna be extremely hard to come by; i can see Gosling being the only import, or someone else of his ilk. I know some people protest about the cliche defensive mid/attacking mid central combination, but i really think our team could make use of someone a bit specialist. And since we're not signing a striker, it'd have to be an creative centre-mid. Hasn't Hughton said a couple of times he'll be after a striker? Also if we're not signing a centre mid or a striker who do you see us signing? Must admit I can see Hughton bringing in a winger on loan. We probably will sign another centre-mid tbf. We'll replace Pancrate and retain Hall i think (or i'd like to think so; was a big fan of Fitz). We won't sign a striker unless we shift one, i just can't see Ashley sanctioning when there's already six on the books. Really need to get Ranger off on loan like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Perch has played in CM has he not? Of course, he's played absolutely everywhere... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Yep- Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 I expect we'll get cleverley in and Guthrie will be shifted out instead & used to cover SAF seems to love Cleverley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 How did we actually play? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Pretty poor performance all round apart from Enrique, Guthrie and Colo. Carroll, Xisco and Best were ok when they came on. Perch was dreadful in the first half but improved after the break. In a competetive game he would have been sent off. Shola was also poor. Decent result, but hoping for more positives from the Deportivo game. Guthrie was awful on the left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 PSV played some lovely football. Toivonen and Engelaar bossed the midfield. The Bulgarian lad was decent in the first half too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Will say more when not on mobile, but again 2nd half performance was streets ahead of the 1st. Perch was poor, Shola was worse. Lovenkrands never got into the game, Guthrie was terrible on the wing, Carroll/Best introduction was the turning point. R Taylor impressed me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 How did we actually play? Terrible. We had no width and at any given time you could spot 5-6 Newcastle players standing in the center circle doing very little. Whatever rumour there was about Chris Hughton narrowing the pitch to try and stop teams from using wingers, right or wrong, it won't work. I was expecting Lovenkrands to perhaps make it up for it, at least on the left, with some runs to the flanks but it never happened. This saw pretty much 99% of our football, again, hit up the middle for one of the two strikers to win. On the rare occassion they did win it there was very little in terms of support from the midfield, or from their strike partner (Lovenkrands failed to link up with Ameobi at all from what I can remember). Unsurprisingly our two goals came from play down the wings/crosses, you know - typical good old fashioned Newcastle football. PSV had the flanks all to themselves with the way Newcastle set out, with R. Taylor and Guthrie prone to tucking inside far too often (its unclear if they were told to do so, or if it was natural instinct/lack of positional awareness). Perch was in trouble throughout the game and if it had been a 'real' game would have been sent off at 10 minutes for being the last man back when he fouled Ola Toivonen. Toivonen scored from the resulting freekick with very little Steve Harper could have done as the ball flew into the top corner out of reach. Perch found it hard to deal with PSV's left winger hugging the touchline and being left unmarked, which saw PSV switch play from one flank to the other countless times. What was also good to watch, and hopefully someone on the Newcastle bench will play this back to our team, was the way PSV played simple passes and moved in triangles - you know basic football patterns. Toivonen was at the heart of every move by PSV, working tirelessly from the front line, dropping back into the midfield to help weave the patterns and get the ball forward. No one picked him up, not even Alan Smith, our Defensive Midfield Juggernaut that people love to rant and rave about. I know its only a pre-season friendly, but Kevin Nolan wasn't taking it seriously at all, playing up to the crowd several times; most noticably during a Newcastle freekick where he stared down the keeper, stalked him back and forth as he tried to set up his wall, before hiding behind a PSV defender, peeking out from between the Defender's legs and arms. Krul came on in the 2nd half for Harper and made a great reaction save. I'm scratching my head at how the game ended 2-2. All I can take away from this is we lack any cover for our wingers, and when we don't play with the wingers we're clueless as to how to get the ball forward constructively. But, we already know this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 How was perch? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 I know its only a pre-season friendly, but Kevin Nolan wasn't taking it seriously at all, playing up to the crowd several times; most noticably during a Newcastle freekick where he stared down the keeper, stalked him back and forth as he tried to set up his wall, before hiding behind a PSV defender, peeking out from between the Defender's legs and arms. I'm blessed not to have seen that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 http://www.psv.nl/News/News-page/PSV-fans-pay-tribute-to-Sir-Bobby-Robson.htm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 How was perch? He just wasn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 The first half was shit and like watching us at the start of last season, Perch wasn't very good and was at fault for the first PSV goal. From where I was sat, Harper could have done better for the second goal, good a strike as it was. Subs on in the second were much better, Xisco (right mid) and Carroll looked very lively. We had nee width at all first half, our wingers were Guthrie and R.Taylor, who both drifted in so much that we were almost playing with 4 in the centre at times. Harper - 6, looked at fault for the second to me, otherwise tidy Perch - 5, gave away first goal and was exposed badly by R.Taylor's lack of cover Williamson - 7, great in the air Coloccini - 7, fine, one brilliant goal-line tackle in particular Enrique - 6, very positive but gave away ball when surging forwards a bit much R.Taylor - 6, only gets the mark for goal and assist, was crap otherwise Nolan - 5, slow, few runs into box but very little end product Smith - 5, few good sliding tackles but nothing else of note Guthrie - 6, better when moved central in the second half Shola - 5, full of shit touches and missed headers Lovenkrands - 4, barely had a touch SUBS: Carroll - 7, almost scored a great solo goal Best - 6, scored (apparently) Xisco - 6, did well in a right wing berth, one run inside and shot just wide Tavernier - 6, slotted in fine Crowd was silent bar about 50 lads in the top of the Gallowgate middle section. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Hate the atmosphere at friendly matches. Xisco was at left mid fwiw Pilko Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulivye Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 did psv play weaker players in the 2nd half? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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