madras Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 will people give Nolan a break, he was played out of position in case anyone didn't watch the game properly.# I blame this on Hughton. Why the f*** didn't CH employ Nolan as a central midfield I will never know, he played him upfront with Carroll wtf!! When we had Shola and Xisco on the bench. At times Carroll was deeper and closer to the midfield than Nolan was. Now tell me what the f*** is this type of tactic meant to be?? Amateur. If CH employed him Nolan as a Attack Mid player then why was he given the license to play so far up in attack. The whole formation stunk and smelt of ineptitude. Today it really showed the difference between a World Class Prem Coach and a Championship one. hughton played nolan where he played quite a lot of last season. the reason for carroll to sometimes be firther back is that in the second half they rotated so one could do some midfield hussle and the other could catch a breather up front, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 It only reinforced the correct opinion that shitehouse midfielders like Kevin Nolan have no place in the Premier League. He isn't capable of a CM role, doesn't have the passing, the ball retention, the stamina...... Hughton's only mistake with Nolan is not selling him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 will people give Nolan a break, he was played out of position in case anyone didn't watch the game properly.# I blame this on Hughton. Why the f*** didn't CH employ Nolan as a central midfield I will never know, he played him upfront with Carroll wtf!! When we had Shola and Xisco on the bench. At times Carroll was deeper and closer to the midfield than Nolan was. Now tell me what the f*** is this type of tactic meant to be?? Amateur. If CH employed him Nolan as a Attack Mid player then why was he given the license to play so far up in attack. The whole formation stunk and smelt of ineptitude. Today it really showed the difference between a World Class Prem Coach and a Championship one. That is Nolan's position, that's where he was succesful for Bolton. Maybe the reason Carroll was there in the first place was because Nolan is such an unfit footballer he didn't have the legs to get back? Nolan was just wandering around aimlessly, not even closing down opposition, that's the whole point of an attacking midfielder to get back enough to be an extra man but then link and/or break with the attack. He didn't do either and just doesn't have what it takes against such energetic opposition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Routledge was shit. He had a few good runs at the start and end of the half but otherwise poor. Coloccini and Williamson were decent tbf though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Routledge was s***. He had a few good runs at the start and end of the half but otherwise poor. Coloccini and Williamson were decent tbf though. thought Routledge was good tbf. Tracked back and held onto the ball well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Carroll will be a handful this season. Enrique had Valencia in his pocket.(most of the time) Nolan is utter garbage. Barton was decent, as was Routledge. Jonas How this man is an Argentine International is beyond me. Harper is finished by the looks of it, at least from this game. Way to slow. There was no point in bringing Shola on, I would rather have brought Xisco on as a striker, at least he has got some pace. Williamson and Colo, hope they learn that silly mistakes will cost us in this league. Smith did alright tbf to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mani Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 will people give Nolan a break, he was played out of position in case anyone didn't watch the game properly.# I blame this on Hughton. Why the f*** didn't CH employ Nolan as a central midfield I will never know, he played him upfront with Carroll wtf!! When we had Shola and Xisco on the bench. At times Carroll was deeper and closer to the midfield than Nolan was. Now tell me what the f*** is this type of tactic meant to be?? Amateur. If CH employed him Nolan as a Attack Mid player then why was he given the license to play so far up in attack. The whole formation stunk and smelt of ineptitude. Today it really showed the difference between a World Class Prem Coach and a Championship one. hughton played nolan where he played quite a lot of last season. the reason for carroll to sometimes be firther back is that in the second half they rotated so one could do some midfield hussle and the other could catch a breather up front, Thats it, it's amatuer, why would a coach play nolan in that role. Why not just play a flat three of nolan barton and smith, or a flat five, guti nolan barton smith routledge . Nolan is best when he is amongst the thick of things not dilly dallying between upfront and midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Yeah, that's one thing I will add. Smith broke up the play pretty well. He disappeared in the 2nd half though. He's pretty useless against opposition who we can beat, but decent if we want to scrape a point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Routledge was s***. He had a few good runs at the start and end of the half but otherwise poor. Absolute guff. What chance did he have up against 4 players with not a soul in sight? Easily the stupidest post of the day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Nolan is best when he is amongst the thick of things not dilly dallying between upfront and midfield. Actually, no. It's this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mani Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 I felt he did ok at times., especially ploughing foward, but he gave Perch alot of work to do. Perch, ive already made my feelings known earlier. he had a stinker, bit better in the 2nd half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Routledge was s***. He had a few good runs at the start and end of the half but otherwise poor. Absolute guff. What chance did he have up against 4 players with not a soul in sight? Easily the stupidest post of the day. So he was shit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Not sure how you can say Routledge was rubbish and then not say anything about Gutierrez. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mani Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 will people give Nolan a break, he was played out of position in case anyone didn't watch the game properly.# I blame this on Hughton. Why the f*** didn't CH employ Nolan as a central midfield I will never know, he played him upfront with Carroll wtf!! When we had Shola and Xisco on the bench. At times Carroll was deeper and closer to the midfield than Nolan was. Now tell me what the f*** is this type of tactic meant to be?? Amateur. If CH employed him Nolan as a Attack Mid player then why was he given the license to play so far up in attack. The whole formation stunk and smelt of ineptitude. Today it really showed the difference between a World Class Prem Coach and a Championship one. That is Nolan's position, that's where he was succesful for Bolton. Maybe the reason Carroll was there in the first place was because Nolan is such an unfit footballer he didn't have the legs to get back? Nolan was just wandering around aimlessly, not even closing down opposition, that's the whole point of an attacking midfielder to get back enough to be an extra man but then link and/or break with the attack. He didn't do either and just doesn't have what it takes against such energetic opposition. no nolan was deeper when he was at bolton,. he had the license to make runs out of mid, but mid was his primary position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Not sure how you can say Routledge was rubbish and then not say anything about Gutierrez. I thought neither had any end product. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShearMagic Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 As others have said it was very pleasing the way the lads kept at it and didn't give up. In the relegation season that game would've finished 5 or 6 nil because as soon as it got to 2-0 our players would've dropped their heads and stopped playing. Carroll was immense. Absolutely fantastic shift put in by him. Where is Lovenkrands? He's got limited capabilities but if we insist on booting the ball up long to Carroll we need someone with a bit of pace to play next to him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 As others have said it was very pleasing the way the lads kept at it and didn't give up. In the relegation season that game would've finished 5 or 6 nil because as soon as it got to 2-0 our players would've dropped their heads and stopped playing. Carroll was immense. Absolutely fantastic shift put in by him. Where is Lovenkrands? He's got limited capabilities but if we insist on booting the ball up long to Carroll we need someone with a bit of pace to play next to him In the relegation season this game ended 1-1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Injured. And not good enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 As others have said it was very pleasing the way the lads kept at it and didn't give up. In the relegation season that game would've finished 5 or 6 nil because as soon as it got to 2-0 our players would've dropped their heads and stopped playing. Carroll was immense. Absolutely fantastic shift put in by him. Where is Lovenkrands? He's got limited capabilities but if we insist on booting the ball up long to Carroll we need someone with a bit of pace to play next to him Lovenkrands & Guthrie have minor knocks and are expected back for Villa, according to the Journal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 As others have said it was very pleasing the way the lads kept at it and didn't give up. In the relegation season that game would've finished 5 or 6 nil because as soon as it got to 2-0 our players would've dropped their heads and stopped playing. Carroll was immense. Absolutely fantastic shift put in by him. Where is Lovenkrands? He's got limited capabilities but if we insist on booting the ball up long to Carroll we need someone with a bit of pace to play next to him In the relegation season this game ended 1-1. It never got to 2-0 though did it? That's his point. I thought the heads would drop after the second but they still put in a fight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 will people give Nolan a break, he was played out of position in case anyone didn't watch the game properly.# I blame this on Hughton. Why the f*** didn't CH employ Nolan as a central midfield I will never know, he played him upfront with Carroll wtf!! When we had Shola and Xisco on the bench. At times Carroll was deeper and closer to the midfield than Nolan was. Now tell me what the f*** is this type of tactic meant to be?? Amateur. If CH employed him Nolan as a Attack Mid player then why was he given the license to play so far up in attack. The whole formation stunk and smelt of ineptitude. Today it really showed the difference between a World Class Prem Coach and a Championship one. That is Nolan's position, that's where he was succesful for Bolton. Maybe the reason Carroll was there in the first place was because Nolan is such an unfit footballer he didn't have the legs to get back? Nolan was just wandering around aimlessly, not even closing down opposition, that's the whole point of an attacking midfielder to get back enough to be an extra man but then link and/or break with the attack. He didn't do either and just doesn't have what it takes against such energetic opposition. no nolan was deeper when he was at bolton,. he had the license to make runs out of mid, but mid was his primary position. Iirc his stand-out season at Bolton, where he scored 10 was when he was playing just behind Davies. If not, then he had the legs then, he just doesn't have the legs now, if CM is his best position i seriously worry because he was truly awful there when he first signed he was over-ran by virtually everyone he came up against. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShearMagic Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 As others have said it was very pleasing the way the lads kept at it and didn't give up. In the relegation season that game would've finished 5 or 6 nil because as soon as it got to 2-0 our players would've dropped their heads and stopped playing. Carroll was immense. Absolutely fantastic shift put in by him. Where is Lovenkrands? He's got limited capabilities but if we insist on booting the ball up long to Carroll we need someone with a bit of pace to play next to him In the relegation season this game ended 1-1. When did I mention anything about this game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 As others have said it was very pleasing the way the lads kept at it and didn't give up. In the relegation season that game would've finished 5 or 6 nil because as soon as it got to 2-0 our players would've dropped their heads and stopped playing. Carroll was immense. Absolutely fantastic shift put in by him. Where is Lovenkrands? He's got limited capabilities but if we insist on booting the ball up long to Carroll we need someone with a bit of pace to play next to him In the relegation season this game ended 1-1. and yet we got beat 5-1 in a season we stopped up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Oh, and Scholes. Jesus Christ what a player. Best player on the pitch by a mile today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Oh, and Scholes. Jesus Christ what a player. Best player on the pitch by a mile today. Xisco. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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