Stifler Posted Monday at 20:03 Share Posted Monday at 20:03 3 minutes ago, Scoreboard82 said: They're forgetting the failed goal line technology incident v Sheffield United the other year. Can't remember exactly but wouldn't they have went down had that Sheffield United "goal" stood? It was the first game back after the Covid lockdown. Aston Villa gained a point out of that fixture as a result of the goal not being given. They stayed up by 1 point, but would have went down on goal difference, Eddie Howe’s Bournemouth were relegated in their place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted Monday at 20:06 Share Posted Monday at 20:06 At least this villa fan has seen the funny side... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted Monday at 20:35 Share Posted Monday at 20:35 seems more a foul every time you see it slowed down. didnt realise he'd stood on his hand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAK Posted Monday at 21:02 Share Posted Monday at 21:02 1 hour ago, Scoreboard82 said: They're forgetting the failed goal line technology incident v Sheffield United the other year. Can't remember exactly but wouldn't they have went down had that Sheffield United "goal" stood? Incomparable! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted Tuesday at 09:05 Share Posted Tuesday at 09:05 aye Keith, I can’t see any reason that they didn’t put Oliver on that game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted Tuesday at 09:11 Share Posted Tuesday at 09:11 That was Eddie’s karma coming back for them for the goal line incident when Bournemouth went down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KetsbaiaIsBald Posted Tuesday at 09:21 Share Posted Tuesday at 09:21 (edited) 12 hours ago, huss9 said: seems more a foul every time you see it slowed down. didnt realise he'd stood on his hand. Indeed - Given that the ref made the decision on field. Let's say he did not blow. Was there even enough proof to overturn the on field decision? Especially looking at that and the ambiguity of the rule. In the comments of the above tweet the Manc goes all in on the "between hands argument"!. Edited Tuesday at 09:24 by KetsbaiaIsBald Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie1892 Posted Tuesday at 09:22 Share Posted Tuesday at 09:22 couldnt have happened to a nicer club fuck them, hope PSR fucks them as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted Tuesday at 09:25 Share Posted Tuesday at 09:25 Think the only thing the ref did wrong was blowing the whistle to early therefor not giving VAR a choice. Should have let it play out unless he was 100% convinced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted Tuesday at 09:28 Share Posted Tuesday at 09:28 well they laughed at us when we went down... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted Tuesday at 09:30 Share Posted Tuesday at 09:30 1 minute ago, Displayname said: Think the only thing the ref did wrong was blowing the whistle to early therefor not giving VAR a choice. Should have let it play out unless he was 100% convinced. But that's the thing. Kicking the ball out of a keepers hands is generally always a foul. So the distance away he was, he probably couldn't see that hands weren't on the ball, so whilst a massive assumption that the keeper had the ball under control, there was little clear evidence for him that he didn't. hence he blew his whistle. MOTD and such like calling a 'massive howler' is kind of wrong. Its an error, but definitely think the ref has blown for what he thought he saw, not due to an uncertainty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted Tuesday at 09:32 Share Posted Tuesday at 09:32 1 minute ago, TK-421 said: But that's the thing. Kicking the ball out of a keepers hands is generally always a foul. So the distance away he was, he probably couldn't see that hands weren't on the ball, so whilst a massive assumption that the keeper had the ball under control, there was little clear evidence for him that he didn't. hence he blew his whistle. MOTD and such like calling a 'massive howler' is kind of wrong. Its an error, but definitely think the ref has blown for what he thought he saw, not due to an uncertainty. No matter what its not a big deal since he made the correct decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted Tuesday at 09:36 Share Posted Tuesday at 09:36 The mistake was blowing early rather than getting the wrong decision imo. Standing on a keeper's hand as he's shielding has always been a foul and while knocking it away from the keeper he made fouled him. Ref should/could have let it go but if it goes to VAR then I think they see the keeper's hand being stood on and give the foul anyway. Whole thing could have been handled better but I don't think it would have changed anything, the goal would have been ruled out regardless. Can't believe the fuss the club and fans are making over it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted Tuesday at 09:41 Share Posted Tuesday at 09:41 (edited) the standing on hand thing i have to admit I didn't spot at time so arguably does redeem the refs call, but I think we'd all be upset to be on the receiving end of that. However, what Villa are brushing under the carpet was they came to a widely unfancied Man U team that no-one gave much of a chance of pulling anything out and they delivered an absolute stinker of a performance. Even before Martinez's dreadful challenge they were very poor and only Man U's quite frankly incredible skill at failing to put chances away left them with any chance of being in the game. Now Emery can brush this aside due to this controversy. Still think very unfortunate though, really impressed by Emery and this Villa team, clearly just Europe took a toll and tiredness caught up at end of season with some poor ends to cup runs. Would have much rather Chelsea missed out, but obviously very glad it helped us. Edited Tuesday at 09:41 by Tiresias Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KetsbaiaIsBald Posted Tuesday at 09:51 Share Posted Tuesday at 09:51 13 minutes ago, midds said: The mistake was blowing early rather than getting the wrong decision imo. Standing on a keeper's hand as he's shielding has always been a foul and while knocking it away from the keeper he made fouled him. Ref should/could have let it go but if it goes to VAR then I think they see the keeper's hand being stood on and give the foul anyway. Whole thing could have been handled better but I don't think it would have changed anything, the goal would have been ruled out regardless. Can't believe the fuss the club and fans are making over it I agree mostly but I think if he had blown I think VAR could have ended up incorrectly allowing it. Match of the day and ref watch did not pick up on the hand stand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted Tuesday at 09:59 Share Posted Tuesday at 09:59 Don't think he did tread on his hand from the other angles. Just appears that way in the angle shown in that clip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted Tuesday at 10:07 Share Posted Tuesday at 10:07 No chance VAR sees him stand on his hand. If it goes to VAR the goal is given. Glad it was the right decision after all. They can have zero complaints now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUICE690 Posted Tuesday at 10:09 Share Posted Tuesday at 10:09 9 minutes ago, alexf said: Don't think he did tread on his hand from the other angles. Just appears that way in the angle shown in that clip. You don't think he stands on his hand from that clip? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted Tuesday at 10:20 Share Posted Tuesday at 10:20 nah im saying it does look like that in the clip above but from the other angles I saw it doesn't seem like there was a full on tread. Keeper certainly didn't react like he'd been stood on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted Tuesday at 10:26 Share Posted Tuesday at 10:26 1 minute ago, alexf said: nah im saying it does look like that in the clip above but from the other angles I saw it doesn't seem like there was a full on tread. Keeper certainly didn't react like he'd been stood on. But its so clear that he did from the clip above? You can the hand moving in sync with the foot after the contact. Maybe he managed to pull the hand away after in the last millisecond to avoid being stepped on, but that shoudn't matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic Posted Tuesday at 11:09 Share Posted Tuesday at 11:09 38 games and 114 points over a season and the Villains blame it all on a single decision. Cry babies cry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted Tuesday at 11:12 Share Posted Tuesday at 11:12 Is there an example where a decision has been overturned that effects a final league position, after a final league has been confirmed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted Tuesday at 11:15 Share Posted Tuesday at 11:15 Just now, mighty__mag said: Is there an example where a decision has been overturned that effects a final league position, after a final league has been confirmed? Calcioploli I think but that was match fixing not ref mistake. The fact that Villa got battered the whole game seems to be lost on a lot of folk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted Tuesday at 11:26 Share Posted Tuesday at 11:26 12 minutes ago, mighty__mag said: Is there an example where a decision has been overturned that effects a final league position, after a final league has been confirmed? No, the closest we have got is Man Utd’s VAR penalty after full time. You also have the situation where Englands women’s team a few years ago were able to go back a few days later and re-take a penalty that they missed. On that subject though, the decision to do that was slated by everyone. Absolute no chance anything happens now. Where would you draw the line? Do we get a free shot on goal against Liverpool? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted Tuesday at 11:39 Share Posted Tuesday at 11:39 2 hours ago, GeordieDazzler said: aye Keith, I can’t see any reason that they didn’t put Oliver on that game Lot's of worthless hindsight from Villa and assorted others regarding the ref's appointment and alleged lack of experience. Did anyone raise the issue before the game or was it just after they felt something went against them during the game ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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