Interpolic Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Forgetting the hatred for Ashley/Llambias for a second, why did Nolan deserve a new contract? What was wrong with the one he had that had two years left on it? That's not what's being disputed here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Wouldn't you agree that he was being pretty greedy wanting a new one when he already had a perfectly good one? Sure, he said he was ready to retire here, just like Barton has, but neither is ready to take a pay cut as they get older. Sounds like they want more money if anything, which doesn't benefit the club at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Wouldn't you agree that he was being pretty greedy wanting a new one when he already had a perfectly good one? Sure, he said he was ready to retire here, just like Barton has, but neither is ready to take a pay cut as they get older. Sounds like they want more money if anything, which doesn't benefit the club at all. That's not what's being disputed here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Wouldn't you agree that he was being pretty greedy wanting a new one when he already had a perfectly good one? Sure, he said he was ready to retire here, just like Barton has, but neither is ready to take a pay cut as they get older. Sounds like they want more money if anything, which doesn't benefit the club at all. Hasn't Barton said a few times he'd be prepared to take a pay cut though...? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Yeah, but things like that are just conveniently ignored when it's a player people like and because everyone hates the clowns in charge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Wouldn't you agree that he was being pretty greedy wanting a new one when he already had a perfectly good one? Sure, he said he was ready to retire here, just like Barton has, but neither is ready to take a pay cut as they get older. Sounds like they want more money if anything, which doesn't benefit the club at all. So you fob him off and say we'll discuss it at the end of the season when our future is clearer, you don't fucking lie to him. Which is what's being disputed here. What you're talking about has been debated a million times on here and isn't related to the latest quotes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 He wasn't getting any younger, but he'd just had the best season of his career and was the club captain. Look at it from his perspective. PS: I understand the other point of view by the way, as Interpolic says it has been debated plenty in the past. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Believe it or not, there is middle ground between giving him 5 years, and being a c***, lying to him and then offering him 12 months This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Yeah, but things like that are just conveniently ignored when it's a player people like and because everyone hates the clowns in charge. So what, because he was getting old and was being greedy, he deserved to be lied to and treated like shit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 The owner's a shitbag. This is not new. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Yeah, but things like that are just conveniently ignored when it's a player people like and because everyone hates the clowns in charge. This surely isn't a response to me? If it is it makes no sense Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 The owner's a shitbag. This is not new. You've changed your tune. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Yeah, but things like that are just conveniently ignored when it's a player people like and because everyone hates the clowns in charge. This surely isn't a response to me? If it is it makes no sense No, it wasn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 The point is that you don't say "Righteo Kev, £50k a week, 5 year deal, shake my hand and we'll sign it in the summer". Then the summer comes and you offer him nothing of the sort. Aside from all of the other considerable issues with conducting your business like this, players talk. Similar to the fact that any good manager wouldn't touch us with a bargepole at the minute, players will hear stuff like this from respectable professionals like Kevin Nolan and decide it's not worth the hassle if they have the option of going to a club like Aston Villa or Everton or whoever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Derek really is a dickhead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Should never, ever have been offered 5 years to start off with. 3 at most. But then to turn round and basically pull a to the captain and a man who did f*** loads for the club since relegation was f***ing disgusting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Derek really is a dickhead. http://images.football.co.uk/Dynamic/Group/200x200/2f74412f2b92dcffb78681ed651d767b.jpg You whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 The owner's a shitbag. This is not new. You've changed your tune. Maybe you just made the mistake of assuming that everyone who disagrees with you loves Mike Ashley Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Derek really is a dickhead. http://images.football.co.uk/Dynamic/Group/200x200/2f74412f2b92dcffb78681ed651d767b.jpg You whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa? Sorry, couldn't resist... NSFW http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/5826/dereck.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Once more it is the totally & easily avoidable actions of the board that get the fans up. Honestly man, how thick are these fucking jokers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 So Nolan took a 5 year £60k per week contract at West Ham because he lost trust in key people at NUFC? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Thank god they did not offer him a 4 or 5 year contract, he is unfit now what would he have been like in a couple of years? BUT as always Derek is a fucking wanker, not surprised he handled the situation like the cunt that he is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Meh, shouldn't have got an extension on the 2 years he already had tbh. For once I agree with the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Kev was just being buttered up to ensure he kept performing for the team. Once staying up was guaranteed they showed him what his true worth was in the contract offer. Pretty shady behaviour, yes. However, at the end of the day, Nolan didn't deserve a contract better than that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 So what should they do back in January? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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