Jonás Gutiérrez (now managing Club Almagro)

[NUFC]

He was poorly handled by the club but I hope loses his case. There are plenty of players frozen out and we have done it to others as well, we'd loaned him to Norwich which was a fairly clear indication that he wasn't wanted.

 

His goal against West Ham is how I want to remember him not as someone taking a punt on getting money out of the club. If he wins and donates the money to cancer research I'll gladly cheer him on.

 

Honestly don't think he has enough evidence to win his case tbh, top bloke but once his legs went in 2012/13 he was a pretty poor footballer, was behind Ben Arfa, Sissoko, Marveaux & Gouffran (who had a good season in 13-14 tbf)

 

If you go back to around page 210 of this thread the majority of people are saying he should be nowhere near the match day squad.

 

11 goals in 200 appearances is pretty awful for a midfielder tbh

[Leazes_End_Mag]

Jonas coming on against Man Utd and scoring against West Ham last season are two of the highlights of the last decade with this club. What a guy.

Didn't he absolutely kill one of the Man United players within seconds of coming on in that game?

He did. Booked almost immediatley.

[Peder75]

Great post HTT 

[B-more Mag]

Probably a greedy cunt like that good for nothing wanker Keegan.

 

And those insufferable Sports Direct employees. All "pay me a living wage, pay me a living wage." The balls on those wasters.

[Thomson Mouse]

I'm sure this won't be about making money, for Jonas. It's about showing up (hopefully!) those who run the club, to be the c***s that we all know they are.

He wants £2m. If he wins and gives it to charity I'll agree with your sentiments.

 

No words

[geordie_b]

 

Pardew currently in the dock

[Dinho lad]

"Gutierrez says Pardew later apologised for the way he treated him and Gutierrez understood it was owner Mike Ashley who wanted to let him go."

 

Well, our criticism of Pardew for being a puppet is certainly well and truly justified here.

[Minhosa]

"Gutierrez says Pardew later apologised for the way he treated him and Gutierrez understood it was owner Mike Ashley who wanted to let him go."

 

Well, our criticism of Pardew for being a puppet is certainly well and truly justified here.

 

The same Mike Ashley who now doesn't get involved with anything at the club. Aye, ok.

[HawK]

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-3506185/Jonas-Gutierrez-s-mother-considered-suicide-stadium-learning-alleged-discrimination-Newcastle.html

 

Wow.

[Ronaldo]

What a lunatic.

[Thomson Mouse]

You're a twat.

[Leazes_End_Mag]

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-3506185/Jonas-Gutierrez-s-mother-considered-suicide-stadium-learning-alleged-discrimination-Newcastle.html

 

Wow.

Clearly unhinged.

[B-more Mag]

Mr Jones asked Montore: "You were going to raise the subject of discrimination in a suicide note? If you had genuinely thought that your son was being discriminated against -- rather than just treated insensitively -- you would have raised it formally wouldn't you?''

 

Ms Montore answered: "I think you are trying to dress a monkey with a silk dress and trying to pretend that it is a princess.''

 

http://www.espnfc.com/newcastle-united/story/2835453/newcastle-treated-jonas-gutierrez-like-a-bad-dog-mother

 

[Ndegwa]

Lickety Lips has had his say in the tribunal today.

 

Ex-Newcastle boss John Carver insists the club's board did not tell him to leave Jonas Gutierrez out of the side.

 

Gutierrez, 32, is suing Newcastle for disability discrimination over the way he was treated by the club following his cancer diagnosis in October 2013.

 

The Argentine claims Carver did not start him to avoid triggering a 12-month contract extension.

 

"All selection decisions were taken independently by me," Carver told an employment tribunal on Tuesday.

 

"The board were not even made aware of my thoughts on team selection until a couple of hours before the match.

 

"Even if the board had wanted to prevent me from selecting any particular player, including Jonas, it would have been very difficult for me to find an alternative first-team player because of injuries."

 

Gutierrez signed a four-year contract in September 2011, which would automatically be extended by a year if he started 80 games during that time.

 

However, the midfielder claims once he was diagnosed with testicular cancer, the club saw him as a liability and took steps to make sure he would not be offered a new deal.

 

When he was released by the Magpies in May 2015, he had only started 78 matches during the contract period.

 

"If Jonas did have concerns that the club was treating him unfairly because of misconceptions it had about his cancer, I am very disappointed that he never raised this with me," added Carver.

 

"My mother passed away from cancer four years ago and I was particularly sensitive to Jonas' situation."

 

'He used foul and abusive language'

 

Carver was put in temporary charge of Newcastle in January 2015 following Alan Pardew's departure to Crystal Palace.

 

He was eventually sacked at the end of the 2014-15 season, despite keeping the club in the Premier League.

 

Pardew, who gave evidence at the tribunal last Thursday, said he thought Gutierrez had "massive grievances" with Newcastle when he returned after his initial cancer treatment.

 

And it was revealed during Tuesday's hearing that Gutierrez was involved in a training ground disagreement with Carver last April which resulted in him being left out of the squad for a game against Tottenham.

 

"Jonas was displaying a general lack of care to what he was supposed to be doing and this ended up in me having to ask him four times for his attention," said Carver.

 

"Due to his attitude, I asked him to leave the pitch and he then approached me using foul and abusive language and throwing his top off.

 

"I sent him back to the changing rooms and as he was walking off he still continued abusing me."

 

Carver said Gutierrez apologised a few days later and that was the "end of the matter as far as he was concerned".

 

"My opinion was that Jonas should not be offered a new contract as there were better players available to take the club forward," said the 51-year-old.

 

Carver said Newcastle's managing director, Lee Charnley, then asked him to speak to Gutierrez and Ryan Taylor to tell them they were being let go, but could not get hold of Gutierrez.

 

"I spoke to Ryan Taylor. He told me he was on a coaching course in Northern Ireland and when I mentioned that I was also trying to get in touch with Jonas he stated he was also on the course and did I want to speak to him," said Carver.

 

"I said I did and I explained he would not be getting a new contract. Jonas took this news calmly and didn't raise any issues."

 

Gutierrez later said the club made him feel like "they did not care" after releasing him over the phone.

 

"While I would have preferred to give Jonas [and Ryan] this message face to face, it was not possible in the circumstances as I had been asked by the club to deliver the news as soon as possible," added Carver.

 

The tribunal continues.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35918904

 

Still manages to slip in how he had to deal with injuries. Poor John.

[Cf]

Lickety Lips has had his say in the tribunal today.

 

Ex-Newcastle boss John Carver insists the club's board did not tell him to leave Jonas Gutierrez out of the side.

 

Gutierrez, 32, is suing Newcastle for disability discrimination over the way he was treated by the club following his cancer diagnosis in October 2013.

 

The Argentine claims Carver did not start him to avoid triggering a 12-month contract extension.

 

"All selection decisions were taken independently by me," Carver told an employment tribunal on Tuesday.

 

"The board were not even made aware of my thoughts on team selection until a couple of hours before the match.

 

"Even if the board had wanted to prevent me from selecting any particular player, including Jonas, it would have been very difficult for me to find an alternative first-team player because of injuries."

 

Gutierrez signed a four-year contract in September 2011, which would automatically be extended by a year if he started 80 games during that time.

 

However, the midfielder claims once he was diagnosed with testicular cancer, the club saw him as a liability and took steps to make sure he would not be offered a new deal.

 

When he was released by the Magpies in May 2015, he had only started 78 matches during the contract period.

 

"If Jonas did have concerns that the club was treating him unfairly because of misconceptions it had about his cancer, I am very disappointed that he never raised this with me," added Carver.

 

"My mother passed away from cancer four years ago and I was particularly sensitive to Jonas' situation."

 

'He used foul and abusive language'

 

Carver was put in temporary charge of Newcastle in January 2015 following Alan Pardew's departure to Crystal Palace.

 

He was eventually sacked at the end of the 2014-15 season, despite keeping the club in the Premier League.

 

Pardew, who gave evidence at the tribunal last Thursday, said he thought Gutierrez had "massive grievances" with Newcastle when he returned after his initial cancer treatment.

 

And it was revealed during Tuesday's hearing that Gutierrez was involved in a training ground disagreement with Carver last April which resulted in him being left out of the squad for a game against Tottenham.

 

"Jonas was displaying a general lack of care to what he was supposed to be doing and this ended up in me having to ask him four times for his attention," said Carver.

 

"Due to his attitude, I asked him to leave the pitch and he then approached me using foul and abusive language and throwing his top off.

 

"I sent him back to the changing rooms and as he was walking off he still continued abusing me."

 

Carver said Gutierrez apologised a few days later and that was the "end of the matter as far as he was concerned".

 

"My opinion was that Jonas should not be offered a new contract as there were better players available to take the club forward," said the 51-year-old.

 

Carver said Newcastle's managing director, Lee Charnley, then asked him to speak to Gutierrez and Ryan Taylor to tell them they were being let go, but could not get hold of Gutierrez.

 

"I spoke to Ryan Taylor. He told me he was on a coaching course in Northern Ireland and when I mentioned that I was also trying to get in touch with Jonas he stated he was also on the course and did I want to speak to him," said Carver.

 

"I said I did and I explained he would not be getting a new contract. Jonas took this news calmly and didn't raise any issues."

 

Gutierrez later said the club made him feel like "they did not care" after releasing him over the phone.

 

"While I would have preferred to give Jonas [and Ryan] this message face to face, it was not possible in the circumstances as I had been asked by the club to deliver the news as soon as possible," added Carver.

 

The tribunal continues.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35918904

 

Still manages to slip in how he had to deal with injuries. Poor John.

 

At least he kept us in the Premier League.

[Ronaldo]

Such a fucking wet blanket. Hope he never works again.

[Interpolic]

Surely any accusations about not picking Jonas due to the cancer were from when Carver wasn't picking the team?

[Heron]

Thing is they're all gonna wank each other off to ensure Jonas get's nowt. They're cunts man. If it wasn't for our dire position as a club I'd love it if our fans went all out in backing Jonas, unfortunately there's bigger fish to fry at the moment.

 

Wanna remember he kept us up last season with an assist and a goal. Fucking jizzcocks.

[Mattoon]

He was eventually sacked at the end of the 2014-15 season, despite keeping the club in the Premier League.

 

Excellent reporting that, he really did save our arses last year!

[Guest]

The more you look at Pardew second half of this season and 2013/4, they may actually have a point.

[Ronaldo]

We only needed 9 points from the second half of the season to stay up, like.

[Guest]

We only needed 9 points from the second half of the season to stay up, like.

 

I thought last season it was a given that we'd get that under Pardew, no guarantee at all now. I was only joking anyway.

[54]

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11678/10223388/ex-newcastle-boss-alan-pardew-accused-over-tribunal-evidence

 

A tribunal considering ex-Newcastle United star Jonas Gutierrez's claim he suffered discrimination at the hands of his old employer has heard an allegation former manager Alan Pardew gave "untrue" evidence.

[Varadi]

Pardew in "lying piece of shit" shocker.

[Leazes_End_Mag]

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11678/10223388/ex-newcastle-boss-alan-pardew-accused-over-tribunal-evidence

 

A tribunal considering ex-Newcastle United star Jonas Gutierrez's claim he suffered discrimination at the hands of his old employer has heard an allegation former manager Alan Pardew gave "untrue" evidence.

Well I for one am gobsmacked.