Joey Linton Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, joeyt said: Yep Vs Liverpool or Man Utd I think Man United Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 (edited) Such a weird mix of abilities combined with tireless running and effort. World class technique in tight spaces, the long runs relieving pressure and the ability to win freekicks without really diving. Absolutely no end product due to his inability to shoot or cross but tbf if he did have end product he wouldn't have been anywhere near Ashley's NUFC. Easily one of my favourite Ashley era players, enjoy the retirement Jonas! Edited November 16, 2021 by Pata Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 5 hours ago, Kaizero said: Maradona saying Argentina was Messi, Mascherano and Jonas was prime Jonas. Talking our left winger to the World Cup as a right back was prime managerial Maradona Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Infinitely loveable. Gave more for this club than an embarrassing amount of others. Hope he enjoys a long and healthy retirement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guybrush Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Bumped into him in IKEA of all places, as expected he was really canny. Absolutely my favourite player while he was with us, used to love his mazy dribbles regardless of what happened at the end of them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 He was brilliant as a holding midfielder during that incredible spell in 2011/12 when we couldn't stop winning. Suited his attributes far more at that point; stamina, close control, an inability to deliver a successful ball from the wing... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Hope his song gets an airing on Saturday. Brilliant bloke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 20 hours ago, Chris_R said: I loved his effort and workrate, but fuck me I hated seeing him play left-wing. He had no shot on him, so couldn't cut inside, and was entirely one-footed so couldn't cross with his left. He was a decent footballer though with pace, decent technique and could run all day, but fucking hell he was one of the worst left wingers I've ever seen. Still loved him though. Hope he enjoys his retirement. Obertan says hi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Haha, I did say "one of"! Don't get me wrong, Jonas had his merits as a player way beyond the likes of Obertan, of course he did. His ability to hold up the ball, his strength, that he could dribble out of tight spaces etc was vital to us at times and he was a valuable team member in that regard. However in terms of "being a winger", he was fucking awful. I was desperate to see him play on the right for a bit, but for some reason we never tried it. At least on the right he'd have been able to put a cross in you'd think? His left foot was only good for standing on so he produced absolutely nothing on the right wing and never would do in a million years. He'd get to the byline and you'd have 0 expectation that anything would come of it because all he could do is swing his left leg aimlessly at the ball and shank it into the stand. If he had a decent shot on him you could claim he was an inverted winger, but his shooting with his right was little better than his crossing with his left. He had so many great attributes, but absolutely no end product at all and I think at least part of that might have been helped by a switch to the other flank. We should have at least tried it for a decent amount of time because let's face it he couldn't possibly have offered LESS end product on the right. Oh well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 From that era I think there's only Jonas and Tiote who I will have lasting memories of. Top bloke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 8 minutes ago, Shearergol said: From that era I think there's only Jonas and Tiote who I will have lasting memories of. Top bloke. There have been quite a few likable characters tbf. Other than the two you mention I will always fondly remember Demba Ba, Jose Enrique, Ben Arfa and I’m probably forgetting a fair few. Someone should do a best and worst Ashley era XI. The best was actually quite good, but big oh boy did we have our fair share of absolute wasters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Just now, Unbelievable said: There have been quite a few likable characters tbf. Other than the two you mention I will always fondly remember Demba Ba, Jose Enrique, Ben Arfa and I’m probably forgetting a fair few. Someone should do a best and worst Ashley era XI. The best was actually quite good, but big oh boy did we have our fair share of absolute wasters. I loved Ba but I don't remember his as "ours" like I do with Tiote and Jonas. Same with Enrique (especially with him) and partly with Ben Arfa (oh what could have been). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 38 minutes ago, Unbelievable said: There have been quite a few likable characters tbf. Other than the two you mention I will always fondly remember Demba Ba, Jose Enrique, Ben Arfa and I’m probably forgetting a fair few. Someone should do a best and worst Ashley era XI. The best was actually quite good, but big oh boy did we have our fair share of absolute wasters. So much for a 'quick look' before the end of my lunch break... Treating them all as them at their peak: Krul Beye - Schär - Coloccini - Enrique Tiote - Cabaye Sissoko Ben Arfa S-Maximin Ba The bad one feels impossible to do. So many options. Sels Krafth Hanley Campbell Haidara (s'pose?) Butt Smith Hendrick Cabella L De Jong Rivieire Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, Yorkie said: So much for a 'quick look' before the end of my lunch break... Treating them all as them at their peak: Krul Beye - Schär - Coloccini - Enrique Tiote - Cabaye Sissoko Ben Arfa S-Maximin Ba The bad one feels impossible to do. So many options. Sels Krafth Hanley Campbell Haidara (s'pose?) Butt Smith Hendrick Cabella L De Jong Rivieire You just doing this on the peak form achieved during their time here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 That frontline of Cabella, De Jong and Rivière, how many goals did they score between them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Rich said: You just doing this on the peak form achieved during their time here? Yeah like for eg I think Krul at his best pips Dubravka at his best, Sissoko probably just beats Wijnaldum even though he probably had a higher percentage of bad games than Gini. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, gbandit said: That frontline of Cabella, De Jong and Rivière, how many goals did they score between them? Two in the league. Think Rivieire got a couple in the League Cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Yorkie said: Yeah like for eg I think Krul at his best pips Dubravka at his best, Sissoko probably just beats Wijnaldum even though he probably had a higher percentage of bad games than Gini. Nice. I'd like to propose Doumbia, Colback, and Khizanishvili for the worst XI, please and thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Dunno if you can really count the likes of Doumbia though cos they hardly played. Like for instance if Messi played one match for us I wouldn't have included him in my Best line-up even though he'd unquestionably be better than anyone else in contention. Colback is a shout but Butt and Smith could hardly kick a ball in the year we first went down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Shefki Kuqi says hi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Tough to choose between Beye, Debuchy and Janmaat He got quite a bit of stick for his defensive positioning but I thought Janmaat was really good for us attacking wise Gutted Santon didn't make it here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Would have Remy instead of sissoko in Yorkie's team too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Alnwick Cacapa Campbell Krafth (possibly harsh, was Rozenthal as bad as my memory makes out?) Obertan (full backs are pretty hard, they've all been a bit meh with a handful of decent options so he is a wing back here) Colback Smith Gonzalez Cabella (see Obertan) Riviere L D Jong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 My Ashley XI Dubravka Beye Colo Lejune Enrique HBA Cabaye Tiote ASM Ba Wilson That team would challenge for the top 4 easily under a competent manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Manager: Rafa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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