Ronaldo Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Thank fuck we no longer have to watch this useless bastard reduce us to 10 men every week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Thank f*** we no longer have to watch this useless b****** reduce us to 10 men every week. I agree though... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Never understand the hate for Jonas. He's been a fantastic professional in his time here, and his partnership with Enrique on the left was a stand out feature for quite a while. He's obviously limited in terms of creativity and attacking flair, but we got him for a relatively low fee (tribunal) and he hasn't let anybody down in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Nobody hates him, he's just crap and has been for most of his time here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Ace guy, shit footballer. Glad he doesn't get games any more, no wonder we are winning with him out of the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Big respect for the effort but if you compare him to Gouffran there is only one winner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Nobody hates him, he's just crap and has been for most of his time here. Ah, "useless bastard" must be a sign of affection in the Ronaldo household. In all seriousness, he's not crap, he's average, and he certainly hasn't been crap for most of his time here. In fact, for two or three seasons him and Enrique on that left wing were the best thing about us by some distance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Which 2 or 3 seasons was this? Given that they only played together for 3 seasons and we went down in one and were in the Championship in another. Average. Aye, OK. Love to know how many average PL wingers go over 50 games without an assist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Still remember his debut at Old Trafford, he was brilliant that day, really thought we had unearthed an absolute gem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Which 2 or 3 seasons was this? Given that they only played together for 3 seasons and we went down in one and were in the Championship in another. Average. Aye, OK. Love to know how many average PL wingers go over 50 games without an assist. You afforded Colo a season to get up to speed in the Premiership in our relegation season, so yes I will include that season as Jonas was nowhere near as bad as him and one of our bright spots. In the Championship (you can only beat what's in front of you) he was very good alongside Enrique, as he was in our fifth place season. So yes, that makes two to three seasons by my reckoning in which he was far from crap. Jonas does not provide enough end product unfortunately, but he does bring other things to the table, which have proved very effective combined with an attacking wing back. It's no coincidence Jonas' form dipped as soon as we lost Enrique. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 He was decent in the Championship and has consistently struggled in the Premier League. No coincidence we're playing the best and most effective football since Bobby with him out of the side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Very likeable guy not nowhere near good enough for the level we want to be at as a club. Ronaldo is right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 He was decent in the Championship and has consistently struggled in the Premier League. No coincidence we're playing the best and most effective football since Bobby with him out of the side. Not like you at all to be so fucking adamant about something that isn't nearly as clear cut as you'd like to think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 To be fair - I always subsidise Ronaldo's opinion with the fact he really rates Steven Taylor. So take it with a pinch of salt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Can still do a job for us off the bench IMO but hes finished as an attacking threat and has been since 11/12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Will leave the club with my respect (because that means a lot obviously). Frustrating as fuck but he was the mythical player Alan Smith was regularly claimed to be by those who didn't follow Newcastle. Worked hard and was useful at times. Always felt he had the ability to do far more attacking wise but rarely got there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 To be fair - I always subsidise Ronaldo's opinion with the fact he really rates Steven Taylor. So take it with a pinch of salt. Aye, I rate him so much I've consistently advocated selling and replacing him for the past 7 years. Tool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 To be fair - I always subsidise Ronaldo's opinion with the fact he really rates Steven Taylor. So take it with a pinch of salt. Aye, I rate him so much I've consistently advocated selling and replacing him for the past 7 years. Tool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Jonas has been such an important player for us, LB's must have loved him being in front of them. He released so much pressure of us by just legging it ip the line with the ball, never backed out of being kicked in the air for the cause. Yeah ok not enough goals or assists but I have nothing but fondness for Jonas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 It's wrong of you to bump this thread on match day. I wish him all the best, anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Jonas has been such an important player for us, LB's must have loved him being in front of them. He released so much pressure of us by just legging it ip the line with the ball, never backed out of being kicked in the air for the cause. Yeah ok not enough goals or assists but I have nothing but fondness for Jonas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 He's a right-footed left winger who can't cross with his left and can't shoot with his right. Seems like a thoroughly nice chap, but you can't make a footballer with those attributes. Certainly not a left winger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHoob Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 No way did Jonas 'consistently struggle in the premier league' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chicken little Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 An ostensibly attacking player with a career goalscoring rate of less than 1 in 20. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 An ostensibly attacking player with a career goalscoring rate of less than 1 in 20. A similar record to Shola then over the last 4 or 5 years. Jonas is limited but he's usually worked his bollocks off for us, I'm glad he's no longer playing but I have nothing against him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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