Jonás Gutiérrez

[Guest Wally_McFool]

Pardew should stop fucking about with Jonas in my view. Get him back out wide, running at defences more and helping Santon (or whoever is left back) out instead of having him fanny about in central midfield..

 

[durhamunigeordie]

Nice theory, problem is he doesn't have the capability to do that anymore. He played on the left of a midfield four at Reading earlier this season and offered absolutely zero going forward.

[Guest Wally_McFool]

Nice theory, problem is he doesn't have the capability to do that anymore. He played on the left of a midfield four at Reading earlier this season and offered absolutely zero going forward.

 

Nice theory. You are wrong!

[durhamunigeordie]

Nice theory, problem is he doesn't have the capability to do that anymore. He played on the left of a midfield four at Reading earlier this season and offered absolutely zero going forward.

 

Nice theory. You are wrong!

 

I'd love it if I was, but just don't believe I am. 

[Davy Ren]

Pardew should stop f***ing about with Jonas in my view. Get him back out wide, running at defences more and helping Santon (or whoever is left back) out instead of having him fanny about in central midfield..

 

 

This sums up my thoughts on Jonas

[Guest firetotheworks]

Pardew should stop f***ing about with Jonas in my view. Get him back out wide, running at defences more and helping Santon (or whoever is left back) out instead of having him fanny about in central midfield..

 

Running at defences? He's finished as a winger man.

[Elliottman]

Nice theory, problem is he doesn't have the capability to do that anymore. He played on the left of a midfield four at Reading earlier this season and offered absolutely zero going forward.

 

Nice theory. You are wrong!

 

Jonas hasnt ran at a defender for about 12 months. He's finished out wide, its painfully obvious.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I liked him on the left of the middle three, gives him a chance to break up play and also push forward sometimes. Sadly we'll probably never play that again.

 

There's no way we can suddenly expect him to go back to being a pure winger again.

[Ronaldo]

Pardew should stop f***ing about with Jonas in my view. Get him back out wide, running at defences more and helping Santon (or whoever is left back) out instead of having him fanny about in central midfield..

 

Running at defences? He's finished as a winger man.

 

Yeah. Has been for a while, too. Got away with it last season because of our success.

[Lush Vlad]

Him playing on the left wing, is part of the reason why teams can afford to double and even treble mark HBA.  He offers absolutely fuck all going forward.

[Skirge]

Jonas Gutierrez can give Newcastle United a boost

by Stuart Rayner, The JournalNov 20 2012

 

NEWCASTLE United are hoping Jonas Gutierrez can shorten their worrying injury list by returning to the side to face Maritimo on Thursday.

 

A win for the Magpies will qualify them for the knockout stages of the Europa League, while a draw would do unless Brugge beat Bordeaux. Just as importantly, it would lift morale after back-to-back home defeats in the Premier League. Vice-captain Gutiérrez was one of seven senior players to miss Saturday’s 2-1 reverse to Swansea City, but the Magpies expect him to have recovered from a knee injury in time to play. With Cheick Tioté again suspended after a yellow card in Belgium, the versatile Argentinian could be needed.

 

“Jonás, we think will be back on Thursday,” manager Alan Pardew commented. “He was close (to facing playing at the weekend) – we were deciding on whether to play him, but we felt it was too risky.”

 

Even with Gutiérrez back, Newcastle will still be without Tioté, and the injured James Perch, Dan Gosling, Haris Vuckic and Ryan Taylor, all of whom, like Gutiérrez, can play in the centre of the park. Most worryingly, Yohan Cabaye may need a groin operation which could rule him out for six weeks. The more attacking Vuckic apart, the French international is the one creative spark in a stable of midfielders which, for all their talents, are more functional than flamboyant.

 

In truth, the same can be said of Gutiérrez – a winger by preference who in 2012 has often seemed better suited to a central role – but his experience could be helpful in allowing Newcastle to wrap up qualification and make Pardew’s selection for their final group game, in

 

Bordeaux, largely irrelevant. Only Cabaye and Demba Ba have made more than his 12 appearances this season.

 

Pardew will at least be able to call on Fabricio Coloccini and Papiss Cissé, both of whom were unavailable on Saturday to face Swansea.

 

 

Captain Coloccini’s three-match domestic ban does not apply to the Europa League, so it would be in his interests as much as the team’s if he were to get some match practice at St James’ Park on Thursday.

 

Much to Newcastle’s disgust, the Senegalese Football Association invoked a Fifa rule to stop Cissé playing against the visiting Swans.

 

Countries can prevent players who skip international duty from playing for the next five days to dissuade clubs from barring their players turning out intern-

Cissé was declared unfit to play for Senegal against Uganda last week, but had recovered in time to face Swansea.

 

Given that he was suffering from a bad back which forced his half-time withdrawal against West Ham United, it is doubtful whether he would have been able to do so had he made the 4,215-mile flight to Kampala.

 

The matter has become political, with Newcastle accusing the Senegalese of harbouring a grudge after they prevented the over-age striker from competing at the Olympics, as was their right to do so.

 

The Magpies are also likely to be without one of their outstanding European performers this season, in French winger Gabriel Obertan.

 

“Obertan has got a toe that we needed to sort out, so there has been a manoeuvre on that which put him out on Saturday and probably for Maritimo as well,” Pardew explained. “He might be back for (Sunday’s Premier League game in) Southampton.”

 

So bad are Newcastle’s injuries that even outcast Nile Ranger was in the reserve team which played in last night’s mini-derby.

 

Newcastle have reached the top of Group D with a 100% home record in Europe this season, while drawing all their away games. It is a formula Pardew would love to see continued for another couple of weeks.

Meanwhile, the Magpies have received 300 extra tickets for Sunday’s trip to Southampton. The game kicks off at 3pm. The extra tickets have gone on sale to members.

 

Read more: Journal Live http://www.journallive.co.uk/nufc/2012/11/20/jonas-gutierrez-can-give-newcastle-united-a-boost-61634-32266270/2/#ixzz2CkcHQRgH

[Beren]

I do think Jonas was a massive cog in Pardew's successful formula last year. His defensive cover and ability to link up defence and midfield was a job no one else did.

 

Now Santon is doing it a little but, but not as effectively or consistently IMO (as Santon, much as I'm excited about him, usually ends up being crowded out unless he releases it early). Jonas didn't even try to beat players (because he can't anymore ) so he found a B&W shirt 90% of the time. Or won a free-kick which allowed us to push out from our half.

 

His drop in form (both out wide and in the middle) have been a very big factor in how poor we've looked IMO. He looks very uncomfortable and indecisive on the ball this season, which isn't helped by the inertia around him, but still quite worrying.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I do think Jonas was a massive cog in Pardew's successful formula last year. His defensive cover and ability to link up defence and midfield was a job no one else did.

 

Now Santon is doing it a little but, but not as effectively or consistently IMO (as Santon, much as I'm excited about him, usually ends up being crowded out unless he releases it early). Jonas didn't even try to beat players (because he can't anymore ) so he found a B&W shirt 90% of the time. Or won a free-kick which allowed us to push out from our half.

 

His drop in form (both out wide and in the middle) have been a very big factor in how poor we've looked IMO. He looks very uncomfortable and indecisive on the ball this season, which isn't helped by the inertia around him, but still quite worrying.

 

Spot on.

[Lenny]

Jonas hasn't looked the same player IMO since he essentially had to double up as a left back to bail out Raylor. It's like he's forgotten how to attack since then. It may be that his legs have gone or whatever, but they shouldn't have at his age, I'd like to think its down to how Pardew has utilised him throughout his time in charge, he's our workhorse that relieves pressure.

[Jack Flash]

I miss Jonas on the wing  Seeing him attacking was beautiful (until the end bit)

[Disco]

The thought of this fucking chancer in the middle holding the ball up again stopping our flowing football again makes my stomach turn. Get rid.

[Mick]

The thought of this f***ing chancer in the middle holding the ball up again stopping our flowing football again makes my stomach turn. Get rid.

 

I'm quite happy to see him in the middle, I don't mind it at all.

[Guest neesy111]

The thought of this fucking chancer in the middle holding the ball up again stopping our flowing football again makes my stomach turn. Get rid.

 

[Sifu]

Chomp anyone?

[Beren]

The thought of this fucking chancer in the middle holding the ball up again stopping our flowing football again makes my stomach turn. Get rid.

 

This is the part which should have alerted you to the fact that this post was completely sarcastic. It's subtle, I know.

 

[Mick]

 

 

This is the part which should have alerted you to the fact that this post was completely sarcastic. It's subtle, I know.

 

 

It might have been wise if I'd noted who I was replying to, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the others had posted it.

[Fenham Mag]

Like Disco would slag off a South American

[Disco]

Being honest though if we persist with the aimless long ball shit it'll make little or no difference having him in the team aside from our midfield might be a little more resolute which will be important against those get a lot of players forward like Southampton. He has been poor this season but it's to be expected as he's more or less done as a wide man except in a defensive style and he's never played in a midfield 2, I thought he was regularly a 7/8 out of 10 in the 4-3-3 last season though. Of those three you need one who can get up and down a lot and he did that role well.

[Wullie]

Being honest though if we persist with the aimless long ball shit it'll make little or no difference having him in the team aside from our midfield might be a little more resolute which will be important against those get a lot of players forward like Southampton. He has been poor this season but it's to be expected as he's more or less done as a wide man except in a defensive style and he's never played in a midfield 2, I thought he was regularly a 7/8 out of 10 in the 4-3-3 last season though. Of those three you need one who can get up and down a lot and he did that role well.

 

[TaylorJ_01]

Pardew should stop f***ing about with Jonas in my view. Get him back out wide, running at defences more and helping Santon (or whoever is left back) out instead of having him fanny about in central midfield..

 

Running at defences? He's finished as a winger man.

 

Yeah. Has been for a while, too. Got away with it last season because of our success.

 

He got away with it because he performed well as a sort of midfield three sweeper. Out wide he's useless, it plays to his weaknesses.