Darth Crooks Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 And if it were marketable, I would imagine the likes of a multi millionaire like jonas would be able to afford to be able be part if any if these trials. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 The chemotherapy always fails, its poison. If you survive 5 years you are considered 'cured' apparently. But then you die (while apparently cured). Radiation also destroys your immune system. What are you talking about? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 You a Cesium-133 broker or something, zicomartin? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Zicomartin = Mrlogic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 You know that Cesium is a simple mineral, commonly found in volcanic rocks and 'natural' products such as volvic water. I dont find it hard to believe that companies who cannot legally patent a 'natural' product, would also have no interest in promoting one? Work it out for yourself. Now go and look at all the latest cancer 'wonder' drugs. All highly alkaline alka-seltzers, no multi million dollar research required. Do the math' as they say. http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/why-alkaline-approach-can-successfully-treat-cancer?page=2#_edn1 This was all I found on "alkalizing therapy". Looking at the article and references, it's alternative medicine that's not been proven to work, and your rant about big pharma hiding the cancer cure is conspiracy theorist bullshit. The fact is, people like you who try and convince people to eat berries or take some other psuedoscience remedy instead of getting proper treatment are far worse than any drug company, and are directly responsible for people succumbing to their cancer. Go fuck yourself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zicomartin Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 So which one is less believable? 1. Chemotherapy is poison 2. Radiation systematically destroys your immune system 3. Alan Pardew plays attractive, front foot football 4. Cancer cells do not survive in an alkaline environment Im not trying to sell anybody anything. Im just saying that there are alternatives out there that don't involve dying or emptying your bank account. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 fucking hell, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 So which one is less believable? 1. Chemotherapy is poison 2. Radiation systematically destroys your immune system 3. Alan Pardew plays attractive, front foot football 4. Cancer cells do not survive in an alkaline environment Im not trying to sell anybody anything. Im just saying that there are alternatives out there that don't involve dying or emptying your bank account. Why empty your bank account when treatment is free on the NHS? And the answer is 4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 The chemotherapy always fails, its poison. If you survive 5 years you are considered 'cured' apparently. But then you die (while apparently cured). Radiation also destroys your immune system. Cesium and Potassium, on the other hand, doesn't kill you. Its called alkalizing therapy. Cancer doesn't survive in an Alkaline environment. The Cancer lie is perpetuated for financial gain. Has been for a long time, now. The real 'cure' is just too 'cheap' to be exploited by the drugs companies. Sounds like this kind of email forward nonsense. http://www.snopes.com/medical/disease/cancerupdate.asp People have died from trying to self medicate cancer with Cesium. There is no scientific evidence it works and it can cause issues with heart rhythm, seizures, loss of consciousness, and electrolyte imbalances. Here's a more thorough debunking of some of this type of pseudo-scientific woo, including the magical alkaline system shite. http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/no-johns-hopkins-did-not-release-update-revealing-truth-about-cancer http://scienceblog.cancerresearchuk.org/2014/03/24/dont-believe-the-hype-10-persistent-cancer-myths-debunked/#acidic-diets This is biological nonsense. True, cancer cells can’t live in an overly alkaline environment - but neither can any of the other cells in your body. Blood is usually slightly alkaline. This is tightly regulated by the kidneys within a very narrow and perfectly healthy range. It can’t be changed for any meaningful amount of time by what you eat, and any extra acid or alkali is simply peed out in urine. To maintain the correct balance within the body, your urine can and does change pH, depending on what you’ve eaten (explained in detail in this post). This can be seen by testing urine pH (acidity) after eating different foods and is the basis of the mistaken belief that diet can “make the body alkaline”. But that’s all you’re changing, and anyone who claims otherwise simply doesn’t understand how the body works. Of course no evidence is good enough, because any findings from actual medical professionals must be a secret plot by Big Pharma and the NWO. The only people worth listening to is someone with a blog, a Diploma of Healology from Professor Moonseed's College of Wellness and a warehouse full of snake oil they want to shift. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 So which one is less believable? 1. Chemotherapy is poison 2. Radiation systematically destroys your immune system 3. Alan Pardew plays attractive, front foot football 4. Cancer cells do not survive in an alkaline environment Im not trying to sell anybody anything. Im just saying that there are alternatives out there that don't involve dying or emptying your bank account. http://themavesite.com/TMS-Pictures/Epic/ThatPostGaveMeCancer.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Feel free to talk about this else where (http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php?board=16.0), not exactly the best taste to do so in here tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John P Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 As someone who works in cancer research, I can safely say zicomartin is talking utter bollocks. Not that it really needed saying but there you go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Last three posts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 As someone who works in cancer research, I can safely say zicomartin is talking utter bollocks. Not that it really needed saying but there you go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Mongo Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 I'm sure zicomartin's utterly scientific facts are only being repressed by all credible journals due to their refusal to publish anything in the logically required one-sentence-per-paragraph format. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 I'm so close to just straight up calling zicomartin the c-word. So close. Fuck. Scum of the earth conspiracy theorist motherfuckers. Fuck. So angry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Mongo Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 I'm so close to just straight up calling zicomartin the c-word. So close. Fuck. Scum of the earth conspiracy theorist motherfuckers. Fuck. So angry. The c-word? Charlatan? It's not libellous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Wasn't it zicomartin who babbled on about the server location thing the other week? Says it all really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Wasn't it zicomartin who babbled on about the server location thing the other week? Says it all really. nuff said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 All this "big pharma is covering up the cure for $$$" talk usually comes from America, where they forget all the countries with public healthcare who would save billions if they had the cure, and all the publicly funded scientific research that goes on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 All this "big pharma is covering up the cure for $$$" talk usually comes from mentalists with no sense of propriety. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 All this "big pharma is covering up the cure for $$$" talk usually comes from America, where they forget all the countries with public healthcare who would save billions if they had the cure, and all the publicly funded scientific research that goes on. it's a sizable minority too. Alex Jones and his ilk have multi-million dollar industries based on this misinformation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Wasn't it zicomartin who babbled on about the server location thing the other week? Says it all really. :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Think we should stop talking about conspiracy theories in this thread. Get well soon Jonas, top bloke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zicomartin Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Yeah, you guys are pretty fun to hang out with, when all is said and done. We could all go for pints and have a great laugh about beating two stage four cancers for 8 years, whilst still not being dead, or even feeling ill in the slightest. Quite honestly, nobody cares and you are on your own, when this happens to you. You make your choices, and you live or die by them. No big deal. At least we ALL have a choice. Best to Jonas of course. Hopefully his immense fitness (and Colo's green tea) sees him through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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