Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 No, neither am I, now. World of the Strange continues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 http://cdnedge.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/9435035.stm Scientists at Qatar University claim to have developed artificial clouds to provide shade for stadia and training grounds at the 2022 World Cup. The fierce summer heat in the Gulf has led to concerns about conditions for players and fans at the tournament. Temperatures in June and July can reach up to 50C. Qatar were announced as hosts in December, and Fifa president Sepp Blatter initially said he expected the 2022 competition to be moved to winter. But Blatter has since stated that he feels the tournament will go ahead as planned in the summer months. Qatar plan to air condition their World Cup stadia via solar power, and now scientists have designed the 'clouds', which can be produced at a cost of $500,000 (about £310,000) each. Saud Abdul Ghani, head of the mechanical and industrial engineering department at the university, said the 'clouds' are made from a lightweight carbon structure, and carry a giant envelope of material containing helium gas. Four solar-powered engines move the structure via remote control. Qatari president of the Asian Football Confederation Mohammed Bin Hammam, who will stand against Blatter for the Fifa presidency in June, has said his country is "well equipped to challenge the summer heat". But global players' football union FIFPro backed a switch to winter, saying the Gulf country "does not provide suitable conditions for a festival of football such as the World Cup". Qatar beat Australia, Japan, South Korea and the United States to host the tournament in the vote held by Fifa's executive committee on 2 December 2010 in Zurich. HAARP. Derp. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 No, neither am I, now. World of the Strange continues. herping the derp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dover Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 http://cdnedge.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/9435035.stm Scientists at Qatar University claim to have developed artificial clouds to provide shade for stadia and training grounds at the 2022 World Cup. The fierce summer heat in the Gulf has led to concerns about conditions for players and fans at the tournament. Temperatures in June and July can reach up to 50C. Qatar were announced as hosts in December, and Fifa president Sepp Blatter initially said he expected the 2022 competition to be moved to winter. But Blatter has since stated that he feels the tournament will go ahead as planned in the summer months. Qatar plan to air condition their World Cup stadia via solar power, and now scientists have designed the 'clouds', which can be produced at a cost of $500,000 (about £310,000) each. Saud Abdul Ghani, head of the mechanical and industrial engineering department at the university, said the 'clouds' are made from a lightweight carbon structure, and carry a giant envelope of material containing helium gas. Four solar-powered engines move the structure via remote control. Qatari president of the Asian Football Confederation Mohammed Bin Hammam, who will stand against Blatter for the Fifa presidency in June, has said his country is "well equipped to challenge the summer heat". But global players' football union FIFPro backed a switch to winter, saying the Gulf country "does not provide suitable conditions for a festival of football such as the World Cup". Qatar beat Australia, Japan, South Korea and the United States to host the tournament in the vote held by Fifa's executive committee on 2 December 2010 in Zurich. that's f***ing ridiculous Erm..Im one of those scientists lol - Honest! Its not as reported on that link though, thats a publicity stunt to raise the profile of the research work going on behind the scenes to get these stadiums cooled. Finally ITK. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Great. Tell us more about the artificial clouds then. Will they be able to stimulate rain/thunder/etc? A lightning bolt just before the opposition taking a shot on goal would be nice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Great. Tell us more about the artificial clouds then. Will they be able to stimulate rain/thunder/etc? A lightning bolt just before the opposition taking a shot on goal would be nice. It would be like fifa. 'er... snowing and... er... night time and er.... black ball'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dover Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 As I said its a publicity stunt. Were developing shading devices, media just turned it into some kind of magic cloud, theres already a 5--a-side solar cooled stadium in Qatar and has been for a while, was used as part of the qatar bid and demonstrated to fifa during their visit. Like it or not the world cup is going to Qatar so lets make it as enjoyable as possible. As someone who lives out here (Well Dubai anyway) I can tell you its ridiculous in the summer and I was as shocked as everyone else when Qatar won it, was certain it was going to England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Ironic that while Qatar considers it a publicity stunt, most people will take it as a subject of ridicule. I'm pretty much neutral on the Qatar win but having seen the mismanagement of the Asian Cup final and the lengthly anticlimax of the trophy presentation to an extent, I would say much needs to be changed. They'll have 11 years to do that though so time is on their side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dover Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Dont people always ridicule? they locked people up for saying the world wasnt flat ffs Lets just see... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 They lock people out for having tickets ffs. Anyway just hope and learn so that their WC will be great Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 As I said its a publicity stunt. Were developing shading devices, media just turned it into some kind of magic cloud, theres already a 5--a-side solar cooled stadium in Qatar and has been for a while, was used as part of the qatar bid and demonstrated to fifa during their visit. Like it or not the world cup is going to Qatar so lets make it as enjoyable as possible. As someone who lives out here (Well Dubai anyway) I can tell you its ridiculous in the summer and I was as shocked as everyone else when Qatar won it, was certain it was going to England. Qatar wasn't up against England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Disco Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 How do you feel on Brazil wasting money on unnecessary stadiums as part of 2014? Can't see the stadiums in Manaus, Cuiabá and Brasilla being anything other than an effort to spread the World Cup around when it will already cover enough area. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
summerof69 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-16624823 Beer must be sold at all venues hosting matches in the 2014 World Cup in Brazil, football's world governing body, Fifa, has insisted. Fifa General Secretary Jerome Valcke said the right to sell beer must be enshrined in a World Cup law the Brazilian Congress is considering. Alcoholic drinks are currently banned at Brazilian stadiums and the country's health minister has urged Congress to maintain the ban in the new law. Brewer Budweiser is a big Fifa sponsor. Mr Valcke is visiting Brazil to press for progress on the much-delayed World Cup law. 'Won't negotiate' Fifa has become frustrated because voting on the legislation has been held up in Congress by the dispute over alcohol sales. The Brazilian government has also failed to resolve differences with Fifa over cut-price tickets for students and senior citizens, and demands for sponsors of the World Cup to have their trademarks protected. In remarks to journalists in Rio de Janeiro, Mr Valcke sounded frustrated with Brazilian officials. "Alcoholic drinks are part of the Fifa World Cup, so we're going to have them. Excuse me if I sound a bit arrogant but that's something we won't negotiate," he said. "The fact that we have the right to sell beer has to be a part of the law." Alcohol was banned at Brazilian football matches in 2003 as part of attempts to tackle violence between rival football fans. The measures have had limited impact, says the BBC's South American football correspondent Tim Vickery. In order to drink, supporters tend to stay longer outside stadiums, areas that are harder to police than inside. Much of the football violence in Brazil stems from club rivalries, our correspondent notes. Fans who follow the national side tend to be wealthier and include more women and families. Mr Valcke criticised the pace of construction at Brazil's world cup venues Health Minister Alexandre Padilha and other members of Congress have called for the ban to be maintained. Mr Valcke said negotiations with Brazil over details of the World Cup had been slow. "We lost a lot of time and we were not able to discuss with people in charge that are willing to make a decision," he said, adding that it was the first time a country was still in talks five years after winning the right to host the tournament. During his visit to Brazil, Mr Valcke has been touring the stadiums in 12 cities where the 2014 World Cup will be played. He criticised the pace of construction and said Brazil had not yet improved its infrastructure to the level needed to welcome visitors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maybe_next_year Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-16624823 so tempted to go to brazil for this... although i'm not 100% sure thats going to be worth the extra cost than it would be to go visit another time and view a few league games instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 heard about that, FIFA is just an evil organisation, they had to consent to leave Brazil with its over 65's discount for the world cup as well. Frankly the way FIFA basically takes control of a countrys laws for a month and doddles off without a single penny of tax going to the host country who had to foot the massive bill of stadium construction is disgusting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gggg Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Good luck doing that in Qatar. The idea that Fifa can challenge a country on it's own laws so they can make more money, set of corrupt bastards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 heard about that, FIFA is just an evil organisation, they had to consent to leave Brazil with its over 65's discount for the world cup as well. Frankly the way FIFA basically takes control of a countrys laws for a month and doddles off without a single penny of tax going to the host country who had to foot the massive bill of stadium construction is disgusting. Qatar chose to buy the WC, can't say I feel the slightest bit sorry for them. fingers crossed they refuse and the WC gets handed to someone with the infrastructure and no so backward laws. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 heard about that, FIFA is just an evil organisation, they had to consent to leave Brazil with its over 65's discount for the world cup as well. Frankly the way FIFA basically takes control of a countrys laws for a month and doddles off without a single penny of tax going to the host country who had to foot the massive bill of stadium construction is disgusting. Qatar chose to buy the WC, can't say I feel the slightest bit sorry for them. fingers crossed they refuse and the WC gets handed to someone with the infrastructure and no so backward laws. the change in tax laws are a condition of taking the world cup so they keep all the massive revenue the World Cup gives them. The way FIFA is run in every possible way is wrong but the FA's everywhere are too on the take/cowardly to challenge them, sad to say the only way I can see FIFA being forced to change is if the big European clubs get pissed off enough to just say to hell with FIFA and not release any of their players for internationals anymore Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 What TT said. Countries know the 'rules' when they sign up to host the World Cup, they can't really complain when it comes to stuff like this. If they refuse, give the competition to someone who actually read the fine print. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 FIFA are soo so so bent, how is it allowed? It's so bad and obvious it's actually funny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 The only way they're going to be stopped is if Coca-Cola et al decided to stop giving FIFA their money. There's a real need for an alternative to FIFA, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 What TT said. Countries know the 'rules' when they sign up to host the World Cup, they can't really complain when it comes to stuff like this. If they refuse, give the competition to someone who actually read the fine print. Mixture of both imo. FIFA should also get a fair bit of slack for not researching this and just working under the assumption that they won't have to/easily be able to change a whole country's laws for a month of football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider Jerusalem Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Is it that alcohol is now apparently an intrinsic part of the FIFA World Cup or the fact that Budweiser is now one of the tournament's major sponsors that's caused FIFA to come out with this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 The annoying thing is that they were award the Cup on the basis that they would build air conditioned facilities to get over the summer heat issue. Two months later, it's not going to be a summer tournament. If part of their original package had been a switch in the football calandar, I don't think they'd have won. This stinks. http://news.sky.com/story/1059397/world-cup-2022-could-be-moved-to-winter-fifa Da-daaa! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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